PC makers plan rebellion against Windows at 2014 CES, analysts say - Polidicks

This is dumb. PC sales are declining for a reason and it's not because of Windows.

[QUOTE={TFS} Rock Su;43366939]Why would you even make an Android PC? I hardly see this being successful.[/QUOTE] Like a ARM pc with Microsoft Surface, except with more than 10 apps. [QUOTE={TFS} Rock Su;43366979]Because it seems that the market wants less buttons and more touching. Which is the worst thing.[/QUOTE] Gimme back my built-in physical smartphone keyboard >:( It isn't a smartphone if it can't even be efficiently used for Terminal sessions.

Occupy Silicon Valley/PC Markets 2014 (I'm so sorry)

Samsung revealed a Windows/Android laptop in june but it never came out.

I still haven't seen sales figures for individual parts and stuff (hell, counting replacements, that's pretty much impossible to measure) so you can't measure how much of that reduction in sales is because people are finally able to build their own PCs or have tech savvy friends build them for them, so I really couldn't care less what kind of garbageware prebuilt makers are going to make me uninstall next time I have to set up a prebuilt for some family member Get bulk deals, reduce your profits, and have Win8 boot to a tutorial on how to get around the new interface, then see if your sales stop plummeting. Nobody wants apps in windows 8. Nobody will ever want goddamned one-at-a-time fullscreen apps on a desktop OS. The only reason touchscreen interfaces are popular in tablets and phones is that you skip needing to carry a physical keyboard, which makes those devices bulkier.

Honestly, if WINE had better compability, I'd of stuck with Fedora, but alas, I couldn't get WINE working well enough so I'm back to Windows. 8.1 fixes a few issues 8.0 had...but really, it's still suited for touchscreens. I had to install Classic Shell on my desktop (8 was cheaper than 7 and I was already over budget). Aside from the whole start screen insanity, I quite enjoy the major performance boost over 7 and the awesome Task Manager. (No really, the Task Manager is the shit on 8)

I try not to be too skeptical most of the time but Android on a desktop? Yeah, that's probably going to work as smoothly as a sandpaper waterslide.

Who on earth thinks that they would be putting Android on a desktop? At least ChromeOS makes some amount of sense as opposed to something that only just works on a laptop.

At first I hated Windows 8 but overall it has expanded to my favour in several areas. In particular the ease of tabbing between two monitors. I also find I get around my directories quicker. It has it's faults and I won't excuse them, but for the main part it's been an improvement for me over XP so far. Would have preferred to have gone for Win7 but Win8 was cheaper. Hopefully Win9 is better.

i would be very happy to see windows being taken off it's throne position, but not by android

[QUOTE=PredGD;43367047]fuck all this touch stuff honestly don't see what manufacturers and developers see in it. sure it's cool for mobile platforms, but for PCs? really?[/QUOTE] Is that a windows 2000 icon? How old is your computer?

[QUOTE=meppers;43371803]Is that a windows 2000 icon? How old is your computer?[/QUOTE] virtual box, trying out win98 for nostalgia

Lmao this article just proves the desktop/laptop market really has no fucking clue what they are doing and are completely out of touch with the modern technology market.

Look at the positive site, you can play dozens of surgery and ad-filled parking simulators on your PC's [Sp] why [/sp]

I really want to know what crazy fucking world these guys are living in and what drugs I need to take to get there to think that people actually want Android on PC.

[QUOTE=Davidn64;43371980]Look at the positive site, you can play dozens of surgery and ad-filled parking simulators on your PC's[/QUOTE] But you already can. It's called flash

[QUOTE=KorJax;43371936]Lmao this article just proves the desktop/laptop market really has no fucking clue what they are doing and are completely out of touch with the modern technology market.[/QUOTE] What else are they supposed to do? all they can do is manufacture Tablets and Workstations, everything else is gone.

So PCs will come with java?

For the regular user, touch screens don't work on desktops. IMO, they only work on phones, tablets, and hybrid laptops. Making an OS with touch in mind for desktops is just... Wrong. Windows 8 went the "best of both worlds" by [I]keeping[/I] the desktop UI, and adding an option for touch-friendly UI. If you're that horny for "touch on desktop," then work with Windows 8, but no one wants to use that part of Windows 8 on their desktops.

Win8 works perfectly with a start menu replacer and is a lot more multi-monitor friendly But seriously: "We don't like that Win8 was made for tablets so now we made something that can run Win8 and Android apps!!" Are they retarded?

android would be a shitty OS for a computer imho let alone apps

[QUOTE=J!NX;43372466]android would be a shitty OS for a computer imho let alone apps[/QUOTE] Windows goes mobile, android goes desktop.

[QUOTE=itisjuly;43372505]Windows goes mobile, android goes desktop.[/QUOTE] ironic that they bitch about windows "Being a touchscreen only but on pc!!!" "piece of shit" but want android of all things, which belongs only on a phone

I don't get why everyone thinks W8 is solely for touch only. Honestly I think using W8 with mouse is a ton simpler and easier than using touch.

[QUOTE=redBadger;43372721]I don't get why everyone thinks W8 is solely for touch only. Honestly I think using W8 with mouse is a ton simpler and easier than using touch.[/QUOTE] w8 start is way more organized, pretty, and far faster than classic, it's basically the same thing as the classic, just the size of a desktop and icons of one too

[QUOTE=redBadger;43372721]I don't get why everyone thinks W8 is solely for touch only. Honestly I think using W8 with mouse is a ton simpler and easier than using touch.[/QUOTE] My Windows 8 experience has been nigh-identical to my Windows 7 one. I really don't comprehend most of the criticism against 8 in general. It's baffling how you can go from 7 to 8 and say "wow, this is too different."

Why would putting Android on a desktop solve anything. That's practically an anti-solution.

[QUOTE=LegndNikko;43373317]My Windows 8 experience has been nigh-identical to my Windows 7 one. I really don't comprehend most of the criticism against 8 in general. It's baffling how you can go from 7 to 8 and say "wow, this is too different."[/QUOTE] people see change and no matter how better it is thing "THIS IS BULLSHIT WHY CANT IT BE MORE LIKE WINDOWS XP!"

[QUOTE=LegndNikko;43373317]My Windows 8 experience has been nigh-identical to my Windows 7 one. I really don't comprehend most of the criticism against 8 in general. It's baffling how you can go from 7 to 8 and say "wow, this is too different."[/QUOTE] I went to the mouse settings in the Metro interface to find that I couldn't customize the speed. I went into the "Desktop" version of the mouse settings and was able to customize it just fine. I went to the Metro interface to add a Bluetooth device. I clicked into my other monitor and it straight up stopped and closed out. I went to the Desktop version and found that it worked out just fine without it needing focus. Metro and Desktop are so disjointed. The start menu isn't the problem, it's the plethora of oddities like a full-screen calculator. I like having windows and I multi-task with more than two programs at a time. I don't like that something as simple as a calculator has to be at least 1/3 of the screen. I don't like Windows 8 by default calls for Metro applications instead of the Desktop versions. They outright ignored the fact that some people out there would prefer the traditional interface (windows vs. full-screen apps) and tried to emphasize their "one size fits all" approach, and as a result Windows 8 has suffered tremendously. I mean, the Metro interface and design is attractive, and if I could detach the calculator app into an actual window it wouldn't be so bad, but I can't do that. It [i]has[/i] to take up a side of my screen. Hell, if they were to add a Maximize/Restore button so I could take the windows down to a smaller size on my screen, it would be a lot better. And I know some fans of Windows 8 will say, "We've heard this all the time, you're not stating something new", but that's the problem. It's very obvious that there's a huge resistance against this stuff and Microsoft isn't really fixing the major design flaws. And I have no problem with change, but when the change creates more downsides than upsides, there's a problem.

[QUOTE=wauterboi;43374286]I went to the mouse settings in the Metro interface to find that I couldn't customize the speed. I went into the "Desktop" version of the mouse settings and was able to customize it just fine. I went to the Metro interface to add a Bluetooth device. I clicked into my other monitor and it straight up stopped and closed out. I went to the Desktop version and found that it worked out just fine without it needing focus. Metro and Desktop are so disjointed. The start menu isn't the problem, it's the plethora of oddities like a full-screen calculator. I like having windows and I multi-task with more than two programs at a time. I don't like that something as simple as a calculator has to be at least 1/3 of the screen. I don't like Windows 8 by default calls for Metro applications instead of the Desktop versions. They outright ignored the fact that some people out there would prefer the traditional interface (windows vs. full-screen apps) and tried to emphasize their "one size fits all" approach, and as a result Windows 8 has suffered tremendously. I mean, the Metro interface and design is attractive, and if I could detach the calculator app into an actual window it wouldn't be so bad, but I can't do that. It [I]has[/I] to take up a side of my screen. Hell, if they were to add a Maximize/Restore button so I could take the windows down to a smaller size on my screen, it would be a lot better. And I know some fans of Windows 8 will say, "We've heard this all the time, you're not stating something new", but that's the problem. It's very obvious that there's a huge resistance against this stuff and Microsoft isn't really fixing the major design flaws. And I have no problem with change, but when the change creates more downsides than upsides, there's a problem.[/QUOTE] As much as I like Windows 8.1 over 7, I agree with this. They need to rework the Metro settings to include most of the settings that are in the desktop Control Panel as best as possible. 8.1 is a [I]little[/I] better about this than 8 was but it still needs work.