Girl jumps from multi-storey car park - people take pictures
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[QUOTE=Doriol;23999799]That is an incredibly stupid statement.[/QUOTE]
And nothing that you've said in this thread wasn't?
Could you please explain to me exactly how it's selfless to attempt to take away somebodies right to end their life?
This is why I carry a gun; so if I get badly injured, I can take down dicks who aren't helping with and just leaving me to die with me.
[QUOTE=Dodongos;23999982]This is why I carry a gun; so if I get badly injured, I can take down dicks who aren't helping with and just leaving me to die with me.[/QUOTE]
This was suicide, not accidental injury.
I remember reading another news article posted on FP about a teen commiting suicide by jumping, a bunch of chavs cheered him on and took pictures later.
[QUOTE=Doriol;23999871]Could you please explain to me exactly how it's selfless to attempt to take away somebodies right to end their life?[/QUOTE]
you ignored my post
[QUOTE=Doriol;24000034]This was suicide, not accidental injury.[/QUOTE]
Yes, I know, but it's somewhat related.
[QUOTE=Arachnidus;23997109]They're SUPPOSED to do that, they're fucking news channels. And if they're there, help has arrived. Random fuckheads doing this is fucking disgusting. I'd like to see all these people in serious injury on the verge of death, and watch as everyone looks and nobody helps.[/QUOTE]
What would you do if you saw someone with sever injuries laying on the street aside from call an ambulance? Most people know what to do when they see something like this happen aside from call 911. Even if she had jumped off a parking garage in a trauma centers parking lot she still would have died.
I still don't understand the outrage and I would really like for somebody to explain to me what exactly somebody should do in situations like this to actually help. And I don't mean emotional support, as that would be pointless.
they were trying to get the historian achievement.
They're just talking out of their asses, they'd probably do the same thing. Either stand there and watch or take pictures, if you don't know how to treat a wound, you don't touch it. The people taking the photo's probably already knew that an ambulance was on the way, and those paramedics don't want a crowd blocking their way and/or making the wounds on a person worse with inexperience.
agreed.
[QUOTE=jantz;23995910]Because 95% of people are assholes.[/QUOTE]
And the rest are perverts that get off to girls jumping off buildings. :q:
fucking sick bastards.
[QUOTE]West Dorset coroner Michael Johnston said of the people who took photographs: "You can only presume something like this has never happened to them, but it does make you worried about humanity."
Psychological bullying In a direct message to the passers-by who took photographs, he said: "This was a child's life and you were taking photos on your mobile phones.[/QUOTE]
Agreed 100%. It doesn't matter if you didn't want to help keep her from offing herself, don't disgrace her by taking pictures of it.
[QUOTE=EvilShadow777;23998640]We all have suicidal thoughts. Many people have been stopped from killing themselves before and most live happy lives after that. Hell, it's said that right before you die you regret it. I don't see a real reason not to try to save someone, it's just heartless not to.[/QUOTE]
It's their life, stop telling them what to do with it.
I don't like it that people commit suicide, but fuck, I don't think it's within my rights to prevent someone from dying when they want to.
[QUOTE=jantz;23995910]Because 95% of people are assholes.[/QUOTE]
True story.
holy shit what the fuck is wrong with facepunch
HURR SHE WANTS TO DIE LET HER DIE A PAINFUL DEATH
[QUOTE=Doriol;24000779]I still don't understand the outrage and I would really like for somebody to explain to me what exactly somebody should do in situations like this to actually help. And I don't mean emotional support, as that would be pointless.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JDK721;23999644]you sound like you have as much empathy as pol pot
I would agree with you if this was someone who was paralyzed and in a lot of pain due to cancer or whatever, but it wasn't. it was a 15 year old who was obviously in another state of mind due to depression and being bullied. suicidal people like this can and have been rehabilitated. talking to her and encouraging her not to jump might not have done anything, but it might have. people in similar situations have been convinced to not jump.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Killerjc;24001244]holy shit what the fuck is wrong with facepunch
HURR SHE WANTS TO DIE LET HER DIE A PAINFUL DEATH[/QUOTE]
Its her right. I'm not going to try to stop her from killing herself. You make the decision, you pay the consequences. No one put a gun to her head and told her to jump. If you get in a car accident while driving, you're paying the consequences of driving a car. If you get arrested because you mugged a guy, you are paying the consequences. You accept the risks when you carry out an action. You can avoid those risks entirely by not carrying out that action, but if you do, then its on your head.
[QUOTE=Zeddy;24001365]If you get in a car accident while driving, you're paying the consequences of driving a car.[/QUOTE]
ahahaha it's funny that you think that way
"If someone changes lanes and runs into you and you are pushed off the road and you hit a tree and break your neck, even if you were doing nothing wrong, it is your fault for getting in that specific car!"
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[QUOTE=RichyZ;24001377]HURR WHEN PEOPLE JUMP OFF OF BUILDINGS AND DIE INSTANLY ON THE GROUND IT CONSITUTES AS PAINFUL!
oh and people taking pictures are such a problem, we should just go out and kill them, add to the death toll, because none of them could have been doing that to submit to the newspapers or news networks, or just show that they were there. nope, they went to fap to it[/QUOTE]
do you even think before you press the post button
[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;23995990]You're a coroner, nobody gives a fuck about what you think.
I sure wish I got paid to declare people as dead.[/QUOTE]
oh no
oh no
he has opionin
[QUOTE=Zeddy;24001365]If you get in a car accident while driving, you're paying the consequences of driving a car.[/QUOTE]
this is terrible logic
*goes outside to get mail*
*gets shot at mailbox*
"oh well, that's your fault for going outside."
I don't think I could bring myself to even operate properly enough to even take a picture. Seeing someone die like that can be quite traumatizing.
[QUOTE=JDK721;24001455]this is terrible logic
*goes outside to get mail*
*gets shot at mailbox*
"oh well, that's your fault for going outside."[/QUOTE]
That's an occurrence based primarily on factors like place of residence, and ignorant of my point. When someone acts, they have accepted the potential consequences and they pay for them if they occur. I know, every time I drive a car, that I might get in to a car accident, even die. I am fully capable of making a different decision. I could call a taxi, take the bus, ride a bike, or even walk. If I don't like the possibility of any of the consequences, I am able to avoid them by making a different decision. No one is threatening to kill me if I don't drive that car.
An astronaut going in to space knows that they may very well die in the process, and they can choose to not do so. The crews of Challenger and Columbia accepted those consequences and ultimately, had to pay for their decision. When I was a kid, I thought it was a great idea to go down a steep hill on a scooter. I ended up falling off, cut my face and arms up, and even have some vision damage in my left eye as a result. I knew that was a risk, but I accepted it. No one is at fault for me making that decision.
This story rings too close to home for me, minus the boyfriend part. Bullying :sigh:
[QUOTE=Zeddy;24001627]That's an occurrence based primarily on factors like place of residence, and ignorant of my point.[/QUOTE]
I used the same logic as you did, and no it doesn't necessarily have anything to do with place of residence
crime can happen anywhere
[QUOTE=Zeddy;24001627]When someone acts, they have accepted the potential consequences and they pay for them if they occur. I know, every time I drive a car, that I might get in to a car accident, even die. I am fully capable of making a different decision. I could call a taxi, take the bus, ride a bike, or even walk. If I don't like the possibility of any of the consequences, I am able to avoid them by making a different decision. No one is threatening to kill me if I don't drive that car.[/QUOTE]
this makes no sense
even if you take a taxi, bus, etc. you STILL have the possibility of dying. the only difference is someone else is driving the vehicle. and also, car accidents aren't always YOUR fault. there are a lot of crashes that are only the other person's fault.
[QUOTE=JDK721;24001706]I used the same logic as you did, and no it doesn't necessarily have anything to do with place of residence[/QUOTE]No you didn't. And yes, place of residence is a factor, and often one of the most important factors. Impoverished areas are more prone to crime, and more wealthy communities and gated communities are less prone to crime. Areas with high racial tension can also result in increased crime.
[quote]crime can happen anywhere[/quote]As can death, yes. But likelihood is widely varying.
[quote]this makes no sense
even if you take a taxi, bus, etc. you STILL have the possibility of dying. the only difference is someone else is driving the vehicle.[/quote]The circumstances and probability varies, resulting in a different decision.
[quote] and also, car accidents aren't always YOUR fault. there are a lot of crashes that are only the other person's fault.[/quote]I never said the accident was your fault. Learn to read.
[QUOTE=Zeddy;24001825]No you didn't.
I never said the accident was your fault. Learn to read.[/QUOTE]
same exact logic then
don't go outside because someone MIGHT shoot and or rob you :downs:
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it's her right to kill herself, but the problem is mental illness. no one should reinforce a suicidal person's negative thoughts. she was obviously suffering from depression and only 15 years old. she needed help and never got it.
[QUOTE=Zeddy;24001825]No you didn't. And yes, place of residence is a factor, and often one of the most important factors. Impoverished areas are more prone to crime, and more wealthy communities and gated communities are less prone to crime. Areas with high racial tension can also result in increased crime.
As can death, yes. But likelihood is widely varying.
The circumstances and probability varies, resulting in a different decision.
I never said the accident was your fault. Learn to read.[/QUOTE]
i'm going to come to your house and kill you, i'll get off scott free because its your fault anyways
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