Russian Space Program Gets $52Bln Boost - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Masterofstars;44837877]Yes because the Russians are well known for their safety and lack of death during their space flights.[/QUOTE] And the US space program being babied for the last 40 years hasn't at all left the only other alternative with a bunch of pussies who don't want to risk damaging their equipment.

[QUOTE=Masterofstars;44837877]Yes because the Russians are well known for their safety and lack of death during their space flights.[/QUOTE] Russian rockets are actually incredibly safe. And incredibly cheap. Best cost/safety ratio. Soyuz is a beast.

They should rebuild the Buran. And make it more eco-friendly. Like a hybrid or something, that will teach those Americans!

space race pls

this lil baby supposed to be next "big build" after olympics, however after all this Ukrainian mess there were no news reports on that. Lets hope it's back on track. [img]http://cs608227.vk.me/v608227196/2b2b/TFfTB8SbeJ4.jpg[/img]

That's nice, Russia. We'll wave and cheer for you [i]from the surface of fucking Mars[/i].

[QUOTE=OvB;44836124]Russia is going to cut 4 years off of humanities greatest effort of international cooperation because the United States is taking a mild response to their military land grab. Good job. [/QUOTE] Actually they said that ISS is a passed stage, and they get no new scientific results from there for years. Is that's really true, then i see no harm in disbanding the station and focusing on new projects. [QUOTE=ionuttzu;44836345]Dominate? Nah They will barely be able to compete with the private space industry that will soon properly develop in USA. If NASA gets proper funds then they have no chance.[/QUOTE] Don't want to sound like a russian patriotic dick, but you sure know. I like how people make statements like this one, based on nothing but their political sights. This private space industry is in lots of years if not decades before they can reach the current level the US\Russia have, and not only because of technologies, but also because there is a thing called "experience", and sometimes is't much more important than having good engineers and loads of money. NASA, and, probably, CNSA are the only organisations that can really compete and beat Roscosmos in their field, but none of these three guys have a really big advantage over others (except, maybe, US and Russia's agencies over China's because of the said experience), so I don't see why increasing NASA's budget would leave Russia's space no chance.

[quote]NASA, and, probably, CNSA are the only organisations that can really compete and beat Roscosmos in their field, but none of these three guys have a really big advantage over others (except, maybe, US and Russia's agencies over China's because of the said experience), so I don't see why increasing NASA's budget would leave Russia's space no chance.[/quote] Does Russia even have the ability to launch manned flights from their own country? I might consider that a considerable advantage. [editline]18th May 2014[/editline] Their only manned cosmodrome I'm aware of is in Kazakhstan.

[QUOTE=OvB;44838596]Does Russia even have the ability to launch manned flights from their own country? I might consider that a considerable advantage.[/QUOTE] Yeah, that's a problem, but not a problem of a space industry, but rather a political problem imo. If a problem at all, because Kazakhstan is not going to kick Roskosmos guys from Baikonur, and by 2018 they would probably have their own launch facility.

I'm just rooting for SpaceX.

[QUOTE=Laserbeams;44837638]At least their manned spacecraft doesn't crash, like, [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle_Columbia_disaster]you know[/url][/QUOTE]Why would you even use that as an argument? It's disrespectful. Oh and just to clear this out, Columbia [b]did not even remotely crash[/b]. A damage on the heat shield caused it to disintegrate during reentry. On the Challenger disaster, however, we are almost sure that the cause of death was on impact. Same goes for Soyuz 1 when Vladimir Komarov was killed after the parachute didn't deploy.

[QUOTE=Laserbeams;44837638]At least their manned spacecraft doesn't crash, like, [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle_Columbia_disaster]you know[/url][/QUOTE] not really a solid argument when the Buran only had a single flight.

[QUOTE=Laserbeams;44837556]We can't have good things when we work together. The space industry being in a gutter for 20 years proves it[/QUOTE]I guess you haven't heard about commercial launch services then? A revolution is happening in the Space Industry, where it's moving towards a commercial market. Just take the last 10 or so years, we've gotten a few interesting concepts/designs in that time. Sierra Nevada Corporation's Dream Chaser: [t]http://www.sncorp.com/images/news/download/sierra-nevada-corporation-dream-chaser-tow-test1.jpg[/t] Orbital Science's Cygnus Spacecraft: [t]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8a/Cygnus_Orb-D1.5.jpg[/t] Boeing's CST-100 Capsule: [t]http://www.collectspace.com/images/news-072213e-lg.jpg[/t] SpaceX's Dragon Capsule: [t]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f7/ISS-31_SpaceX_Dragon_commercial_cargo_craft_approaches_the_ISS_-_crop.jpg[/t] Oh and we've basically found out tons about Mars with the rovers Spirit, Opportunity, Pathfinder and Curiosity: [img]http://www.extremetech.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/RoverComparison-640x323.jpg[/img] We also landed a probe on the surface of Saturn's moon Titan and got this picture: [t]http://www.windows2universe.org/saturn/moons/images/titan_surface_huygens_ground_color_big.jpg[/t] And to end this post, have this graph of discovered exoplanets per year: [t]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c5/Exoplanet_Discovery_Methods_Bar.png/1024px-Exoplanet_Discovery_Methods_Bar.png[/t]

[QUOTE=The golden;44836484]None of this money will go anywhere because the corruption in Russia is so bad.[/QUOTE] Remember how Sochi was one of the most expensive Olympics but you couldn't tell that by the amount of bad quality work involved? Yeah, I think more of that money will be spent on commemorative medals and bentleys for the management than any actual work done by illegals from Tajikistan.

Related: [video=youtube;0CJ8g8w1huc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CJ8g8w1huc[/video] Personally though I don't believe the private sector will push the boundaries beyond low earth orbit

[QUOTE=karimatrix;44838444]this lil baby supposed to be next "big build" after olympics, however after all this Ukrainian mess there were no news reports on that. Lets hope it's back on track. [/QUOTE] Thanks to only having 4 (3?) hours of sleep, I was practically shitting myself as I thought that was an intercontinental particle accelerator because my mind was focused on the giant circle covering the map background and not the words.

Maybe instead of going the same route they did last time, they can just cut out the middle man and fuel the rockets with Cosmonaut blood.

Holy shit, if the Russians extended this to partnerships with the ISRO (apart from our current military R&D partnerships) we'd actually be able to pull of great things today. I'm seeing rainbows everywhere! :smile:

[QUOTE=Vodkavia;44836168]Space race part 2 please.[/QUOTE] I'll have lost more faith in the US and the public in general if this is the only reason we go back into space, just due to a bunch of dick waving....

[QUOTE=LoneWolf_Recon;44840875]I'll have lost more faith in the US and the public in general if this is the only reason we go back into space, just due to a bunch of dick waving....[/QUOTE] Honestly, we wouldn't of tried to hard with rocketry if the Soviets hadn't done it first.

Putin knows how to play the crowd.

Some people in this thread are so 'Murica driven.

[QUOTE=Satansick;44841398]Putin knows how to play the crowd.[/QUOTE] Or at least his administration.

[QUOTE=antianan;44838472]Actually they said that ISS is a passed stage, and they get no new scientific results from there for years. Is that's really true, then i see no harm in disbanding the station and focusing on new projects. Don't want to sound like a russian patriotic dick, but you sure know. I like how people make statements like this one, based on nothing but their political sights. This private space industry is in lots of years if not decades before they can reach the current level the US\Russia have, and not only because of technologies, but also because there is a thing called "experience", and sometimes is't much more important than having good engineers and loads of money. NASA, and, probably, CNSA are the only organisations that can really compete and beat Roscosmos in their field, but none of these three guys have a really big advantage over others (except, maybe, US and Russia's agencies over China's because of the said experience), so I don't see why increasing NASA's budget would leave Russia's space no chance.[/QUOTE] I think you are going to turn around in 5 years and look at this post and not be able to believe how wrong you were about the private space industry. Once spaceX is making money every company from here to china is gonna wanna be involved either directly through sponsorship and research grants, or as competition to spaceX. Mark my words, private industry is the future of space, and our government knows it.

[QUOTE=frozensoda;44841809]I think you are going to turn around in 5 years and look at this post and not be able to believe how wrong you were about the private space industry. Once spaceX is making money every company from here to china is gonna wanna be involved either directly through sponsorship and research grants, or as competition to spaceX. Mark my words, private industry is the future of space, and our government knows it.[/QUOTE] Well, will see. I have nothing against private space companies, they undoubtedly are doing a good thing to the global space development, but what they did by today is not really impressive. I mean, they just lean on what has already been done decades ago, and, as i've already marked, they need to either develop lots of completely new technologies/rockets/ships/ets, stepping on every single rake on this way like us/russia did, or to use some existing technologies, which they don't know as good as both space agencies do. I wish them good luck anyways.

[QUOTE=OvB;44838596]Does Russia even have the ability to launch manned flights from their own country? I might consider that a considerable advantage. [editline]18th May 2014[/editline] Their only manned cosmodrome I'm aware of is in Kazakhstan.[/QUOTE] Why does that matter? For all intents and purposes Kazakhstan is virtually russia.

Please please please start another space race!

[QUOTE=booster;44836361]We should just collab together and build ISS 2.0[/QUOTE] FPSS I can just see that station change course and fall out of orbit because some dipshits hit the controls while fighting about which gasmask was the neatest looking. The only reason Facepunch would ever build a space station is to prove that atheism is right.

[QUOTE=antianan;44842068]Well, will see. I have nothing against private space companies, they undoubtedly are doing a good thing to the global space development, but what they did by today is not really impressive. I mean, they just lean on what has already been done decades ago, and, as i've already marked, they need to either develop lots of completely new technologies/rockets/ships/ets, stepping on every single rake on this way like us/russia did, or to use some existing technologies, which they don't know as good as both space agencies do. I wish them good luck anyways.[/QUOTE] What I think they've been doing is re-inventing old tech to be used in modern, commercial flights. One thing is building a space shuttle as a government, having access to tons of funding, knowledge and manpower. Another is a company trying to, practically, invent an entirely new vactional industry. With no previous knowledge of building commercial space flights. However, before I get started properly, these are all just my ideas for why they havn't done "anything note-worthy" in the last few years.

[QUOTE=Zovox;44866406]FPSS I can just see that station change course and fall out of orbit because some dipshits hit the controls while fighting about which gasmask was the neatest looking. The only reason Facepunch would ever build a space station is to prove that atheism is right.[/QUOTE]Facepunch isn't that mad about atheism tbh; considering most threads about it devolve into lol fedora shitposting, or "i'm an atheist, but nice unlike every single other" self-flagellation. The "militant" atheists that actually reside here suffice to be counted on one's hands.