• Canada: Schools officially allow students to use alternate pronouns
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[QUOTE=The Maestro;45157894]Even so I don't see what it really helps. Like I said above, it would probably lead to a more positive outcome if the children were educated on the subject rather than given additional pronouns to know.[/QUOTE] This was passed by the Vancouver school board, so it applies to older students as well.
brb highlighting [b]"for their transgender pupils"[/b] in the article and killing that title because nobody's focing all the students to drop he/she in favor of a singular pronoun
Transgender people are male and female, too. They aren't some arbitrary "other" gender.
of course it's in hipsterland
[QUOTE=Mr.95;45157911]So we're using those pronouns...you know...the one's everyone was joking about for years..[/QUOTE] Except we don't, it's a few schools in Vancouver.
[QUOTE=dai;45157958]brb highlighting [b]"for their transgender pupils"[/b] in the article and killing that title because nobody's axing anything[/QUOTE] the article is pretty trash anyway, you might as well just read the articles this is entirely based off of [url]http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/schools-gender-identity-policy-sparks-debate-in-vancouver-1.2643554[/url] [url]http://www.vancouversun.com/life/Vancouver+school+board+approves+policy+addressing+transgender/9945194/story.html[/url]
this is stupid
[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;45157972]Transgender people are male and female, too. They aren't some arbitrary "other" gender.[/QUOTE] This. Why can't I say I'm trans-royalty and people must refer to me as "sir" and "my lord"? What about being trans gender makes you different from other people of the gender you identify as?
[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;45157972]Transgender people are male and female, too. They aren't some arbitrary "other" gender.[/QUOTE] I can confirm Trans people want to blend in, not stand out. Just fucking asking us what we want to be referred to. This is basically the same as refusing to call us our preferred names, it's denying us the acceptance we would hope to receive.
[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;45157972]Transgender people are male and female, too. They aren't some arbitrary "other" gender.[/QUOTE] some don't identify as either gender, they don't identify as a third gender
[QUOTE=A_Pigeon;45158007]This. Why can't I say I'm trans-royalty and people must refer to me as "sir" and "my lord"? What about being trans gender makes you different from other people of the gender you identify as?[/QUOTE] perhaps this Xer should only apply to hermaphrodite pupils then.
What is it with this "inbetween" crap? You're either a he or a she. You aren't supposed to be what you are? Then fine, we'll adress you as a he if you should be a guy, or a she if you should be a girl. Just stop making up more stupid crap.
[QUOTE=Rocâ„¢;45158033]What is it with this "inbetween" crap? You're either a he or a she. You aren't supposed to be what you are? Then fine, we'll adress you as a he if you should be a guy, or a she if you should be a girl. Just stop making up more stupid crap.[/QUOTE] As a trans person, I fucking [B]hate[/B] the "genderneutral" thing. No, there is no backing to that. If you want to say "I'm a fairly androgynous (male / female), so you could refer to me either way" makes sense but if you go "I'm not a gender but you should still refer to me as such" is fucking bullshit and you need to shut up.
[QUOTE=The golden;45158029]I can't even imagine the teachers telling students about this while keeping a straight face. There are so many other, better ways to support transgendered people...[/QUOTE] I always found it very hypocritical how transgender people want to be seen as normal people, but then demand specialties and make up this special "not quite this and not quite that" status for them. [editline]19th June 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Zillamaster55;45158049]As a trans person, I fucking [B]hate[/B] the "genderneutral" thing. No, there is no backing to that. If you want to say "I'm a fairly androgynous (male / female), so you could refer to me either way" makes sense but if you go "I'm not a gender but you should still refer to me as such" is fucking bullshit and you need to shut up.[/QUOTE] ...How are you not a gender? Like, I'm not saying you're either one or the other. You COULD be one of the other, but if you don't identify as what other people think you are, then people should just adress to whoever you should be. But staying in some kind of limbo for genders? What the hell? Doesn't that feel wrong?
Didn't futurama do this in that episode with the giant tentacle monster?
[QUOTE=Rocâ„¢;45158052] ...How are you not a gender? Like, I'm not saying you're either one or the other. You COULD be one of the other, but if you don't identify as what other people think you are, then people should just adress to whoever you should be. But staying in some kind of limbo for genders? What the hell?[/QUOTE] According to them gender is mental and sex is physical
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;45158091]According to them gender is mental and sex is physical[/QUOTE] Well, I can agree with that though. But the concept of being in some kind of limbo of genders is odd to me still.
I'd like to be called ser from now on. *tips fedora*
Call me a bigot but I'll never use anything else than "he" or "she"
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;45158091]According to them gender is mental and sex is physical[/QUOTE] gender is how your behavior and outward appearance (both chosen or passive) expresses yourself to define masculinity or femininity, whereas sex is your hard defined physical attributes. that's the actual definitions, they're not the interchangeable words we grew up thinking they were
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[QUOTE=bunnyspy1;45158219]:words:[/QUOTE] That was the point of his post
[QUOTE=Adnap;45158237]That was the point of his post[/QUOTE] I thought he was trying to imply that transgender people just want to be unique, my bad.
shkle and skler sound better and they're already established in the future of futurama as the pronouns to address a genderless entity from another universe
How do you even pronounce "xe" Che? Chi? Ecks-e? Cks-e?
maybe the school board should do their homework on this
Why don't we just call everyone 'it'.
Hän master race.
[QUOTE=ultra_bright;45158646]Why don't we just call everyone 'it'.[/QUOTE] Why don't I call you a butface
Let's just call them "The Mutants."
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