• 'Disabled children cost too much and should be put down': Calls for councillor to resign over rant
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[QUOTE=BloodyDragon;39735929]depends... mentally disabled? yea put them out of their misery not like they are going to benefit society in any way physically disabled? tons of possibilities for them[/QUOTE] looks like we will need to put you down. Sorry, its the law.
[QUOTE=Topzombie;39736676]itt autistic facepunchers being upset[/QUOTE] Pretty sure every sane human being would also be upset about someone advocating the murder of disabled people.
[QUOTE=CheezyCakez;39736726]I do agree that seriously mentally ill people should be put down. At least those that cannot be cured.[/QUOTE] I'm glad that you get to decide their life isn't worth living.
[QUOTE=Topzombie;39736676]itt autistic facepunchers being upset[/QUOTE] You are just as scum if you agree with the guy in the article.
[QUOTE=BloodyDragon;39735929]depends... mentally disabled? yea put them out of their misery not like they are going to benefit society in any way physically disabled? tons of possibilities for them[/QUOTE] I want to put you into misery.
It's a difficult problem, but don't you feel sorry for the retards in wheelchairs that can't do anything or think by themself?
"They should be put down"... like they're race horses.
[QUOTE=CheezyCakez;39736726]I do agree that seriously mentally ill people should be put down. At least those that cannot be cured.[/QUOTE] Well until we find a cure for stupidity, you're first in line.
lol what is this the 1700's?
[QUOTE=CheezyCakez;39736805]It's a difficult problem, but don't you feel sorry for the retards in wheelchairs that can't do anything or think by themself?[/QUOTE] Did you really call people retards unironically and outside of a joke? Or are you trolling?
[QUOTE=CheezyCakez;39736805]It's a difficult problem, but don't you feel sorry for the retards in wheelchairs that can't do anything or think by themself?[/QUOTE] I do, but that doesn't necessary mean they want to die, and you can't just presume they do and kill them anyway. If a someone (children especially) is being kept alive by a machine however and their body cannot survive without it, doctors will make the decision to "pull the plug" and speak to the parents about it.
[QUOTE=Nitro836;39736778]You are just as scum if you agree with the guy in the article.[/QUOTE] Iam against killing disabled people but statements like 'He should be put down' aren't any better
Thaaaats kinda fucked up. I'd be afraid to see what he qualifies as "disabled". I have a couple friends that apparently have some sort of mental disability, not to mention numerous relatives with various conditions. Someone's job is about to come into question very soon, I hope.
[QUOTE=Valnar;39736838]Did you really call people retards unironically and outside of a joke? Or are you trolling?[/QUOTE] You know what I meant. It was easier to type than "mentally ill person blah blah" edit: I know what you people are getting at. I misworded, yes. I'm not a native english speaker
Then how about cut government spending on them? The government spends way too much on them as it is, why they even have a budget for them is beyond me. Why should they hand out money to families who can't afford it? Shouldn't have had the kid in the first place. Why is the government always responsible for giving out money, especially in situations like this.
[QUOTE=CheezyCakez;39736884]You know what I meant. It was easier to type than "mentally ill person blah blah"[/QUOTE] Thats like calling people who are homosexual, faggots because it is easier to type that than homosexual.
I don't know if this only a half-educated opinion, please do not be immediately butthurt by this! D: This will become a serious topic in a few thousand or even hundred years, when people with diseases continue to survive due to healthcare getting better and better. What i'm trying to say is that they create offspring which would have never survived in conditions we humans originally lived in, thus 'poisoning' the gene pool, creating more and more minor flaws in humans We ultimatively get so smart and create healthcare good enough that even people with major diseases survie, so that we have to do natural selection on our own, by not letting people with certain diseases reproduce, as cruel as it sounds. I really hope i'll be long dead by when this will become a major concern Oh god, that was ~soo deep~ right now, it's awful :v:
[QUOTE=Terragen;39736889]Then how about cut government spending on them? The government spends way too much on them as it is, why they even have a budget for them is beyond me. Why should they hand out money to families who can't afford it? Shouldn't have had the kid in the first place. Why is the government always responsible for giving out money, especially in situations like this.[/QUOTE] Do you extend this ridiculous mindset to all potential medical expenses that exist outside of the A&E department?
[QUOTE=Valnar;39736838]Did you really call people retards unironically and outside of a joke? Or are you trolling?[/QUOTE]It's funny how "retard" was a term to describe mentally retarded people but now it counts as an insult.
[QUOTE=itisjuly;39736965]It's funny how "retard" was a term to describe mentally retarded people but now it counts as an insult.[/QUOTE] Because retard, literally means 'slow'. you're reducing an entire condition to how mentally agile a person is or isn't and oversimplifications are almost always wrong and offensive.
[QUOTE=Terragen;39736889]Then how about cut government spending on them? The government spends way too much on them as it is, why they even have a budget for them is beyond me. Why should they hand out money to families who can't afford it? Shouldn't have had the kid in the first place. Why is the government always responsible for giving out money, especially in situations like this.[/QUOTE] So if a couple has a kid, but then they lose their jobs due to ~whatever reason~, it's their fault for having a kid? You can't blanketly say that everyone in poverty can't have benefits on the basis that it's their fault they're in that position, and neither can you do enough research to find out the backgrounds of people and why they're in their current financial situation; not only would you have shitloads of red tape, you'd also be wasting more resources on background checks and research than you would save by only giving money to specific people.
[QUOTE=NoDachi;39736953]Do you extend this ridiculous mindset to all potential medical expenses that exist outside of the A&E department?[/QUOTE] No, having actual close encounter to these situations, I know from those how expensive it really is. I am not saying kill these people at all. Spending is way over what it should be IMO. Sorry if you disagree, but don't be butthurt over a different opinion.
[QUOTE=Terragen;39737018]No, having actual close encounter to these situations, I know from those how expensive it really is. I am not saying kill these people at all. Spending is way over what it should be IMO. Sorry if you disagree, but don't be butthurt over a different opinion.[/QUOTE] So then you must agree to cut spending on care for elderly people too right?
[QUOTE=Terragen;39737018]Spending is way over what it should be IMO.[/QUOTE] You going to quantify that?
[QUOTE=Terragen;39737018]I am not saying kill these people at all.[/QUOTE] Well you did rate every post that said to kill these people agree so it's pretty safe to say that in your opinion they should be put to death.
[QUOTE=Boxbot219;39737049]Well you did rate every post that said to kill these people agree so it's pretty safe to say that in your opinion they should be put to death.[/QUOTE] He's probably more of a Eugenics Programmes guy.
They cost a lot? Sure, just like every other non-disabled person that's just too lazy or too much of a dumb ass to contribute to society or like politicians and other entities that mishandle a country's money and put the country into debt or ruin economies. If you're going to bitch about a certain type of person "costing a lot", bitch about people that actually deserve to be bitched at, not people that can't do anything about their problems. [QUOTE=CheezyCakez;39736726]I do agree that seriously mentally ill people should be put down. At least those that cannot be cured.[/QUOTE] I think they should only be put down if they decide to do so themselves, if they can't decide for themselves or don't want to die then we just have to put up it, it's the price to pay for a progressive human society. We should not be deciding whether they(or anyone really) should live or die.
its amazing the lengths people will go to preserve their monetary wealth. are there people who genuinely believe this or is life slowly becoming the onion?
Cornwall Council's always been full of stupid cunts.
[QUOTE=Terragen;39736889]Then how about cut government spending on them? The government spends way too much on them as it is, why they even have a budget for them is beyond me. Why should they hand out money to families who can't afford it? Shouldn't have had the kid in the first place. Why is the government always responsible for giving out money, especially in situations like this.[/QUOTE] Not everyone knows their child will be disabled before its born. And someone who is a carer (stays at home to look after their disabled child) gets £58.45 a week. Minimum wage is £180 a week (after tax), so as you can see, it's not an easy life. The rest of the money would come from the NHS, and they can't exactly say "sorry, we won't be treating your child today as we've gone over our disabled child budget"
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