'Call Of Duty: Infinite Warfare' Trailer Is YouTube's Most Disliked Gaming Video Ever - Polidicks

[QUOTE=BelatedGamer;50278531]Gameplay =/= setting. Being in space probably isn't going to significantly effect the gameplay, or even the plot for that matter. Also "grounded in reality"? Try "grounded in James Bond".[/QUOTE] Gameplay goes hand in hand with setting. They have jetpacks. There are no jetpacks in modern times. The setting has affected the gameplay. I'm convinced you haven't even played CoD since you say this one is no different than the others and that the setting doesn't affect gameplay. Do you actually believe a new Counter Strike game in space would be well received?

[QUOTE=man with hat;50278542]Gameplay goes hand in hand with setting. Do you actually believe a new Counter Strike game in space would be well received?[/QUOTE] Please tell me how moving the setting to space will fundamentally change CODs gameplay. Also; Call Of Duty is a much more diverse, much more over-the-top, much different game than Counter Strike. Your comparison is a misleading case of moving goalposts.

[QUOTE=BelatedGamer;50278559]Please tell me how moving the setting to space will fundamentally change CODs gameplay. Also; Call Of Duty is a much more diverse, much more over-the-top, much different game than Counter Strike. Your comparison is a misleading case of moving goalposts.[/QUOTE] See my edited post, and I'm not comparing the games I'm comparing the [I][B]philosophy behind a series of games.[/B][/I] Counter Strike is in modern times. Halo is not. CoD is in modern times. They're trying to make it something it isn't.

[QUOTE=man with hat;50278576]See my edited post, and I'm not comparing the games I'm comparing the [I][B]philosophy behind a series of games.[/B][/I] Counter Strike is in modern times. Halo is not. CoD is in modern times. They're trying to make it something it isn't.[/QUOTE] Apparently you haven't actually been keeping up with a series that has taken place in the 40s, 60s, 2000s, and settings decades in the future. A series that has already included rocket boosters, combat robots, laser guns, zombie apocalypses, and alien invasions. Are you only familiar with Modern Warfare 2 or something?

[QUOTE=BelatedGamer;50278595]Apparently you haven't actually been keeping up with a series that has taken place in the 40s, 60s, 2000s, and settings decades in the future. A series that has already included rocket boosters, combat robots, laser guns, zombie apocalypses, and alien invasions. Are you only familiar with Modern Warfare 2 or something?[/QUOTE] Except that's exactly what I'm saying. 40s, 60s, 2000 is grounded in reality. Space battles are not. Are you only familiar with Advanced Warfare or something?

Ugh... another _______ Warfare Call of Duty game? I guess Advanced Warfare wasn't uninteresting and generic enough.

[QUOTE=man with hat;50278606]Except that's exactly what I'm saying. 40s, 60s, 2000 is grounded in reality. Space battles are not. Are you only familiar with Advanced Warfare or something?[/QUOTE] Holy shit you're seriously dismissing like half of the series to make your point now. The games are diverse. They have never been set entirely in the same time period and several have been set in the future. You are literally flat out wrong when you say that it's always been grounded in reality. Or that there is an underlying "modern day" philosophy.

[QUOTE=BelatedGamer;50278619]Holy shit you're seriously dismissing like half of the series to make your point now. The games are diverse. They have never been set entirely in the same time period and several have been set in the future. You are literally flat out wrong when you say that it's always been grounded in reality. Or that there is an underlying "modern day" philosophy.[/QUOTE] Half of the series is nothing like what the game was originally. [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Call_of_Duty#Main_series[/url] When it started getting over the top is when the series started sucking.

Not counting handheld games, I think there have been 12 released. Of those 12, at least six (that I can think of) have included futuristic technology, alternate timelines, zombie apocalypses, rayguns or lasers in the campaign mode, aliens, space, robot fighters, exo-suits, jet boosters, or a combination of those things. That includes the first game by the way, which had ghosts and a UFO. And through all of that, the gameplay has arguably only fundamentally changed between COD 3 and 4. You're ignoring half of the series at this point to avoid admitting that you're jumping on a hate bandwagon and it's pretty pathetic. Wikipedia isn't something you can just plug when you're obviously being willfully ignorant and pulling shit from your ass.

[QUOTE=BelatedGamer;50278655]Not counting handheld games, I think there have been 12 released. Of those 12, at least six (that I can think of) have included futuristic technology, alternate timelines, zombie apocalypses, rayguns or lasers in the campaign mode, aliens, space, robot fighters, exo-suits, jet boosters, or a combination of those things. That includes the first game by the way, which had ghosts and a UFO. And through all of that, the gameplay has arguably only fundamentally changed between COD 3 and 4. You're ignoring half of the series at this point to avoid admitting that you're jumping on a hate bandwagon and it's pretty pathetic. Wikipedia isn't something you can just plug when you're obviously being willfully ignorant and pulling shit from your ass.[/QUOTE] Did I use Wikipedia to make an argument or show you a list of games in the series? Those elements in the previous games are nothing to the scale of this. Go play a CoD game before you argue it's always been set in the future.

[QUOTE=man with hat;50278662]Did I use Wikipedia to make an argument or show you a list of games in the series? Those elements in the previous games are nothing to the scale of this. Go play a CoD game before you argue it's always been set in the future.[/QUOTE] I've never argued that, and I know you're smarter than to have overlooked that. You've done nothing to defend your viewpoint and have frequently accused me of having not played any of the games despite the fact that I've actually run down the list of unrealistic things in the series. Including, like I said, UFOs and ghosts in the very first game. You're shitposting, so we're done here.

[QUOTE=BelatedGamer;50278677]I've never argued that, and I know you're smarter than to have overlooked that. You've done nothing to defend your viewpoint and have frequently accused me of having not played any of the games despite the fact that I've actually run down the list of unrealistic things in the series. Including, like I said, UFOs and ghosts in the very first game. You're shitposting, so we're done here.[/QUOTE] You're making an argument that easter eggs are a measurement of how realistic a game is and comparing Infinite Warfare and Advanced Warfare to the original games. [quote]"It's different, so it sucks" isn't ever a good argument, especially when what you're talking about [b]isn't actually all that different.[/b][/quote] The Easter eggs have nothing to do with the game.

I kinda wish I had played the other games so I could understand what's going on. I've only ever played the story mode of CoD: Black Ops. Honestly, the settings and situations presented in the trailer look legitimately interesting but I haven't played much of the series so I don't feel like I should have a voice in that matter.

[QUOTE=Snickerdoodle;50278729]I kinda wish I had played the other games so I could understand what's going on. I've only ever played the story mode of CoD: Black Ops. Honestly, the settings and situations presented in the trailer look legitimately interesting but I haven't played much of the series so I don't feel like I should have a voice in that matter.[/QUOTE] Story-wise most of them are pretty disconnected, especially in the _____ Warfare series after 3. I'm not sure if this one is even in the same continuity as any of the others.

[QUOTE=gudman;50266759]That would be even shittier. That'd mean that there was literally no reason to hold the Remastered version hostage to begin with, just Activision being extremely greedy.[/QUOTE] Sure there's a reason, you just stated it. It's going to make them money. They're a business that operates for the sole purpose of obtaining dollars, they don't care about anything else. The only reason that they care about their playerbase is because they're loyal customers. If they could produce a game that was just a black screen and release it and have people buy it without losing customers that's all that they would do.

[QUOTE=phygon;50279044]Sure there's a reason, you just stated it. It's going to make them money. They're a business that operates for the sole purpose of obtaining dollars, they don't care about anything else. The only reason that they care about their playerbase is because they're loyal customers. If they could produce a game that was just a black screen and release it and have people buy it without losing customers that's all that they would do.[/QUOTE] Activision as a publisher, sure. I mean look at Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 5. Whenever the updates, servers and such for that game die off, it'll be nothing more than a drink coaster with a tutorial of a garbage game on it. I'd like to give a little more faith into Treyarch, though, because they really do create batshit and crazy games outside the story norms each time; and hopefully Sledgehammer as well, depending on what they do next year (probably an attempt to follow the example Battlefield 1's doing this year). I'm willing to give the latter the doubt after they essentially breathed a whole new life into the multiplayer that no one knew they wanted until it was presented. Meanwhile Infinity Ward's putrefied remnants of its former self, Neversoft, and whatever else Activision could shove in are literally reusing the [title] Warfare moniker for.. Call of Duty in Space with a Killzone-esque plot. They're selectively plucking the additional maneuverability from the previous two games for core gameplay yet we have no idea if space and zero-G will have absolutely anything to do with the game outside of setpieces, and they're also once more stealing Zombies to put their own spin on it. They even brought in an external 'big time' writer again, like they did with their last game. Even Activision probably doesn't trust Infinity Ward to sell Infinite Warfare well given what happened with Ghosts, which is probably entirely why the Modern Warfare Remaster is 'held hostage' - it's an assured purchase, whether Infinite Warfare is up to snuff or not.

[QUOTE=phygon;50279044]Sure there's a reason, you just stated it. It's going to make them money. They're a business that operates for the sole purpose of obtaining dollars, they don't care about anything else. The only reason that they care about their playerbase is because they're loyal customers. If they could produce a game that was just a black screen and release it and have people buy it without losing customers that's all that they would do.[/QUOTE] No shit. But that's also exactly the reason people should not support this garbage. There must be a limit to being a dick to loyal customer without losing too much. Actually, many previously loyal customers actually were lost - that's why this "buy this game to be able to play the game you actually want" tactic has entered the scene.

I'm pretty worried about this because they're setting a VERY dangerous precedent with gating things that fans really want behind a massive pricepoint that comes from packaging it with another piece of content I remember this exact same scenario playing out with them making excessive amounts of DLC and map packs , and although there was fan disgruntlement Activision can easily get away with not caring about any sort of negative feedback and when their product sells like hotcakes the rest of the industry will follow suit in an impossible to avoid wave that eventually has practices like these become the standard Expecting a boycott or petition or something to work ("people should not support this garbage") is naive at best. I'm sure I dont need to remind anyone of this image (which is funnily enough from CoD backlash as well) [IMG]http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--uJYUJ7W2--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/18j48weujcgewjpg.jpg[/IMG]

I wonder if they started working on the remaster along with IW because the plan was always to package them together or if it was it's own separate thing until someone at Activision realized that the next Infinity Ward CoD title could use a sales boost and tacked it on as an incentive. Really I find it hard to get mad about it. Like yeah it's shitty for people who have no interest in IW but want to play a remaster of CoD4 but they are just going to lose sales from people who don't think the investment is worth it. Meanwhile for the true fans of the series it's a nice bonus.

Idk I think that whole "true fans" thing is sort of dumb I just like cod4 and want to play it again and experience that joy I used to have of leveling up and racing through the prestiges with my mp5 in hand, and Activision is gating me from that just because they know they can. It's totally scummy

[QUOTE=Duck M.;50279691] Expecting a boycott or petition or something to work ("people should not support this garbage") is naive at best. [/QUOTE] Yeah that's not gonna happen, I know. I just kind of wish something like that happened, but alas.

[QUOTE=Duck M.;50280077]Idk I think that whole "true fans" thing is sort of dumb I just like cod4 and want to play it again and experience that joy I used to have of leveling up and racing through the prestiges with my mp5 in hand, and Activision is gating me from that just because they know they can. It's totally scummy[/QUOTE] You guys complain about them remaking the same thing over and over while demanding for the same thing over again.

[QUOTE=ThePanther;50264869]I feel it's kind of a band-wagon thing with the dislikes, but it is interesting nonetheless. Somehow the whole future warfare thing is already seemingly run it's coarse, at least with the COD franchise. To me, the Space Oddity cover didn't help....[/QUOTE] Actually the issue is "fuck infinity ward." The setting has nothing to do with it.

wait so you [i]do[/i] have to buy infinite warfare to get cod4 remastered? and that's the only way? fuck that noise

[QUOTE=Duck M.;50280077]Idk I think that whole "true fans" thing is sort of dumb I just like cod4 and want to play it again and experience that joy I used to have of leveling up and racing through the prestiges with my mp5 in hand, and Activision is gating me from that just because they know they can. It's totally scummy[/QUOTE] You can't seriously argue that the people who haven't bought a CoD game in years and routinely shit on the series are more fans of the game than the people who would actually buy IW. That's what I mean by true fans. It appeals to people who were already going to buy it next CoD title regardless. They aren't "gating" you at all. You can still totally go buy CoD4. If they had shut down the servers and stopped retailers from selling it and this was the only way to play Modern Warfare I think you might have had a case but this is just packaging one of their titles with a bonus remastered version of their previous one. It's not scummy at all.

[QUOTE=Raidyr;50281382]You can't seriously argue that the people who haven't bought a CoD game in years and routinely shit on the series are more fans of the game than the people who would actually buy IW. That's what I mean by true fans. [/QUOTE] People can be fans of the game and its particular style of gameplay without being fans of their developer. They're no less fans for shitting on the way the game series has been going for the past few years. [QUOTE=Raidyr;50281382]bonus remastered version of their previous one. It's not scummy at all.[/QUOTE] Nice bonus you have to pay money for btw.

[QUOTE=KillerJaguar;50281019]You guys complain about them remaking the same thing over and over while demanding for the same thing over again.[/QUOTE] Uh did I ever complain about them "remaking the same thing over and over"? I loved all the cod games from cod4-mw3 and I feel like we're totally due for remasters on them. Why are you projecting me onto some sort of collective hivemind mentality? [editline]8th May 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Raidyr;50281382]You can't seriously argue that the people who haven't bought a CoD game in years and routinely shit on the series are more fans of the game than the people who would actually buy IW. That's what I mean by true fans. It appeals to people who were already going to buy it next CoD title regardless. They aren't "gating" you at all. You can still totally go buy CoD4. If they had shut down the servers and stopped retailers from selling it and this was the only way to play Modern Warfare I think you might have had a case but this is just packaging one of their titles with a bonus remastered version of their previous one. It's not scummy at all.[/QUOTE] I shouldnt have to be a fan of every single game they've ever made to be somehow entitled to a game. Why cant I just buy the game I want without it being attached to something I dont want? People have different tastes and I prefer the simple arcade grounded style that the old cods offered. There's nothing wrong with the new ones or people that like the new ones. And they are totally gating it, sure I can play the old Cod4 but its not the same game as the remaster. What sort of point are you trying to make there because it makes absolutely no sense to me

[QUOTE=Raidyr;50281382]They aren't "gating" you at all. You can still totally go buy CoD4.[/QUOTE] They aren't the same thing. Do you know what a remaster is?

[QUOTE=man with hat;50282983]They aren't the same thing. Do you know what a remaster is?[/QUOTE] When I hear remaster, the standard is that it's a fancified, spiffier and HD-ier version of the same game, maybe with extra bells and whistles for good measure. Modern Warfare Remastered is actually completely remaking cutscene animations, significantly overhauling the graphics to the point that pretty much every single detail is different instead of just HD textures on 2007 geometry, and probably going to remake the 10 MP maps it comes with too. It actually goes above and beyond the average moniker of a remaster.

All I see is people who feel entitled to the remaster purely for dint of the fact that they really want it and its totes unfair that they Activision doesn't offer it seprately as if there was any motivation for them to do so beyond charity. I mean beyond saying "shit sucks sorry fam" I don't really know what you want. Just seems like pointless whining. Start a petition or a movement asking them to sell it seprately. If they see a shitload of people asking for it maybe they will think about separating it down the line.