• Obama pledges greater surveillance transparency
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Actually the proper thing to call him is simply "Mr. President" but once again no one really cares unless you're directly addressing the dude
[QUOTE=Paul McCartney;41775932]I totally didn't mean to pull it into the direction of a joke. It just irks me since he's the fucking President. Doesn't matter your views on him, calling him Mr, rather than his title is just disrespectful.[/QUOTE] Sir Jimmy Savile, OBE, KCSG
[QUOTE=smurfy;41776052]Quotes [/QUOTE] Okay [img]http://puu.sh/3XUwK.png[/img]
[QUOTE=Paul McCartney;41776062] Course you would say that, Governor Romney.[/QUOTE] Of course not, I'm a moderate I swear!
I don't really care that much about the metadata. There is little information in metadata that could be exploited for a person's gain. What about all the other privacy violations the Patriot Act contains?
I just call him Obama. [I][B][U]TAKE THAT.[/U][/B][/I]
[quote]...restore any public trust damaged by the Snowden disclosures.[/quote] This sounds like the damaged trust came from Snowden instead of the NSA it should be; "Obama also said he wants to provide more details about the NSA programs to try to restore any public trust damaged by [the NSA's neglect of personal rights and privacy]."
choke on my spud obama you let this shit continue. You don't care about americans you just want to keep everyone under watch.
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;41776060]44th President of the United States, Muslamic lawyer Barrack Hussein "The Kenyan Cowboy" Obama-Rama the II.[/QUOTE] I prefer the Kenyan Assassin myself. [img]http://i.imgur.com/qBkupbn.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;41775983]I wouldn't. Manning's treatment was another huge national embarrassment that caught our government with its pants down. They should not want to be caught in that position again, especially so soon afterwards! Yes, Snowden would likely be tried for treason, which he did technically commit, even though he did it for the right reasons. And yes, the government's handling of the Snowden case so far, by acting like big whiny angry babies at everybody considering giving him asylum, has been awkward and embarrassing for just about everybody. But the government isn't run by costumed supervillains in a volcano lair. They simply cannot do whatever the hell they want without repercussions, and right now the entire civilized world is shining a spotlight at them. They have to go by protocol and they have to uphold his civil liberties, because if they don't, it would be found out almost immediately, and they'd have to deal with public and international outrage.[/QUOTE] you would think but it seems that, in reality, our government is either filled with those supervillain types or it is filled with inept buffoons. my money is on the latter.
More transparency about surveillance? What about no suerveillance?
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;41776060]44th President of the United States, Muslamic lawyer Barrack Hussein "The Kenyan Cowboy" Obama-Rama the II.[/QUOTE] B-rock the Islamic Shock Super-Allah Hussein Obama
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;41775873]Did you get your concept of government from Saturday morning cartoons, or can you just not comprehend the immensity of what a stupid thing to do that would be? The international outrage of "quietly executing" Snowden would do a hundred times more damage than the leak itself did.[/QUOTE] Executions don't have to be abrupt. Maybe he just accidentally gets cancer or is infected with a deadly disease in 2-3 years.
[QUOTE=Paul McCartney;41775932]I totally didn't mean to pull it into the direction of a joke. It just irks me since he's the fucking President. Doesn't matter your views on him, calling him Mr, rather than his title is just disrespectful.[/QUOTE] you'd make a good little servant boy
So they are going to make the recording devices invisible?
So who was killed in the last drone strike in yemen?
What was that? American Airlines flight crash landed in russian airport, snowden confirmed dead?
[QUOTE=acds;41776872]Executions don't have to be abrupt. Maybe he just accidentally gets cancer or is infected with a deadly disease in 2-3 years.[/QUOTE] what is the point it's not "making an example" if no one knows it's not "for justice" if it circumvents the system completely it's not like he's a threat considering the damage is done
How about instead of being more transparent about it you just fucking can it entirely?
they won't stop spying on you, they're just going to make it clear they are
[QUOTE=Fatfatfatty;41776372]More transparency about surveillance? What about no suerveillance?[/QUOTE] You would like that terrorist wouldn't you?
It's going to be so transparent that you won't be able to see it.
[QUOTE=BLOODGA$M;41775727]Lot of nice-sounding talk, "Oh Snowden was right we're so sorry guys we promise we'll change!", but I'm sure they would still have Snowden quietly executed and never spoken of again if they ever caught him.[/QUOTE] If you truly think the US government would just execute Snowden quietly, and be done with it you have a vast misunderstanding of how politics, the justice system, and the media work.
Even if he [I]truly[/I] wanted to, it's Congress that ultimately decides, and so far most of them seem to be in the Snowden is a traitor camp. [QUOTE=yawmwen;41776337]you would think but it seems that, in reality, our government is either filled with those supervillain types or it is filled with inept buffoons. my money is on the latter.[/QUOTE]Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity. Seems an apt rule of thumb for nearly all politicians.
Anyone else here have a massive flashback to the 2008 elections? It was so vivid I remembered the gas prices.
[QUOTE=plunger435;41781634]If you truly think the US government would just execute Snowden quietly, and be done with it you have a vast misunderstanding of how politics, the justice system, and the media work.[/QUOTE] I feel sorry for anyone naive enough to believe the government isn't seriously looking for even the slightest loophole they can use to do exactly that without getting in trouble for it...
How about instead of being transparent about spying on everyone, you just [I]don't spy on everyone?[/I]
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