GJ 667Cc - fourth planet that could support life found
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[QUOTE=Noth;34521174]Unfortunately the treaty forbidding nuclear detonations in space (arguably the best place for them) makes that impossible.[/QUOTE]
It also prohibits claiming the moon as sovereign territory.
Doesn't mean Newt won't do it!
[QUOTE=cardfan212;34519713]I hate how astronomers only look for life on planets similar to Earth. What if there's life out there that thrives quite different from us? No water or oxygen, just something entirely different. Maybe they drink lava and breath in gaseous iron. We aren't the center of the universe, you know.[/QUOTE]
Oxygen and water have unique properties that allow it sustain life. It's pretty unlikely any lifeforms would have something other than a carbon base.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;34520235]If we ever do go to another planet it'll probably be so far away that the ship (or fleet of ships) will need to be large enough to sustain us for multiple generations. And since humanity moving to another planet would probably only happen because of some kind of catastrophe on earth it really isn't unreasonable to think that the population here would be low enough so that anyone who [i]wants[/i] to go to space could.
I mean, if we're advanced enough to be able to do this in the first place we're advanced enough to take millions and millions of people[/QUOTE]
There's other ways. I don't think we're that far away from complete cryogenics, are we? We can freeze people, we just can't thaw them out.
[QUOTE=cardfan212;34519713]I hate how astronomers only look for life on planets similar to Earth. What if there's life out there that thrives quite different from us? No water or oxygen, just something entirely different. Maybe they drink lava and breath in gaseous iron. We aren't the center of the universe, you know.[/QUOTE]
Because humans only have Earth to compare; were we to look at other types of living organisms, we wouldn't know where to start.
[QUOTE=TamTamJam;34523108]There's other ways. I don't think we're that far away from complete cryogenics, are we? We can freeze people, we just can't thaw them out.[/QUOTE]
I think I've read somewhere that body cells break when frozen/thawed
[QUOTE=Recurracy;34523785]I think I've read somewhere that body cells break when frozen/thawed[/QUOTE]
The cells crystallize when frozen, causing damage when they're thawed.
If we want true cryogenics, we'd need to either find a way to repair the cells, or find a method of freezing that doesn't allow them to crystallize in the first place (more likely)
Cells literally pop when they are warmed at a fast rate, making the current idea of cryogenics impossible.
[QUOTE=demoguy08;34519363]In a hundered years they will be laughing at us for even considering the thougt that we are alone in the universe.[/QUOTE]
More like we will be laughing at us for ever considering space travel.
[B]If [/B]there will be anybody left to laugh, by that time, actually.
GJ guys
[QUOTE=Noth;34521174]Unfortunately the treaty forbidding nuclear detonations in space (arguably the best place for them) makes that impossible.[/QUOTE]
exactly
So have the laws of physics rendered faster-than-light travel impossible for us? Or can we eventually achieve the speed?
I swear, threads that talk about space travel make me so incredibly sad. It's a sombre thought to think that we won't be anywhere near the level of space-travel that I want so badly in my lifetime. It's a shame I won't be alive to see humans colonising other planets. I wish I could though, I'd be so happy.
I'd happily volunteer to be a colonist. Landing on a brand-new planet with trees and gorgeous plains would be breath-taking. Oh no :( Makes me so sad.
It's saddening that the distances in Space grow far too large for our methods of traveling.
So, the Scientists gotta figure that one out. Not sure if it lies in the very core of particles or the size of your rocket engine, but anyway. There could be/are planets with either a younger or older evolution than what we've had for the past 3.8 billion years. And how diverse can life get when the life on our planet is very diverse?
[QUOTE=LuckyLuke;34527538]So have the laws of physics rendered faster-than-light travel impossible for us? Or can we eventually achieve the speed?[/QUOTE]
It's impossible to go faster than light, there's really no debate about that. There are theoretical tricks like bending space to get around the restriction but I'm pessimistic about us ever managing to do it
I have solution for cryogenics.
Just dip people in cold as hell piss (Piss freezes at some -160C or something)
[QUOTE=Zeke129;34528068]It's impossible to go faster than light, there's really no debate about that. There are theoretical tricks like bending space to get around the restriction but I'm pessimistic about us ever managing to do it[/QUOTE]
Well the neutrino experiment from CERN kinda gives us hope yet. And if there IS a way to do it... we'll do it.
[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;34524846]More like we will be laughing at us for ever considering space travel.
[B]If [/B]there will be anybody left to laugh, by that time, actually.[/QUOTE]
What?
I want to see some alien life before I die
Please make us live longer scientist
:(
Too bad none of us will live long enough to see our race travel to other stars, unless we are cryogenically frozen.
[QUOTE=Garik;34528090]I have solution for cryogenics.
Just dip people in cold as hell piss (Piss freezes at some -160C or something)[/QUOTE]
How is this a solution? People are still frozen, which leads to the same problem.
Why can't all the cool shit in space be close to us.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;34520473]As long as earth is capable of supporting 10 billion+ people (which is where we're heading), we won't have any reason to leave[/QUOTE]
Its estimated that in 1.1Bn years surface temp of Earth will be 100C making it inhabitable.
So we're going to have to jump ship soon.
This is the part where we find neat technology on Mars and fly to all these planets only to find blue lesbian alien chicks.
[QUOTE=MalwareBites;34536331]Its estimated that in 1.1Bn years surface temp of Earth will be 100C making it inhabitable.
So we're going to have to jump ship soon.[/QUOTE]
1,100,000,000 years soon? Who are you, Blizzard?
[QUOTE=Chief Martini;34537352]This is the part where we find neat technology on Mars and fly to all these planets only to find blue lesbian alien chicks.[/QUOTE]
And then a massive fleet consisting of ancient sentient warships who wipe out all life in the galaxy every 50 000 years come.
[QUOTE=Mingebox;34537565]1,100,000,000 years soon? Who are you, Blizzard?[/QUOTE]
*valve
[QUOTE=Garik;34528090]I have solution for cryogenics.
Just dip people in cold as hell piss (Piss freezes at some -160C or something)[/QUOTE]
...or we could just use nitrogen or helium like we do now, and save people the blind stupidity of dipping someone in piss.
Besides the only issue we have right now is reviving them and stopping the water moolecules in their body from turning into ice crystals which expand and burst cell walls.
[QUOTE=LuckyLuke;34527538]So have the laws of physics rendered faster-than-light travel impossible for us? Or can we eventually achieve the speed?[/QUOTE]
It's very difficult to say for certain. Only last year we believed C couldn't be surpassed, then those neutrinos came along and beat it.
Quite frankly, an awful lot of what we know has been called into question by that. So I guess we'll have to wait until we're entirely certain of everything we know and/or [I]think[/I] we know before we go heading off into the cold reaches of space.
I mean, you don't want everybody dying because it just happens to turn out there's an infinite amount of jello-pop monsters lurking outside Sol, do you?
I am suprised how much planet are in space and support life ;)
[QUOTE=!TROLLMAIL!;34540625]I am suprised how much planet are in space and support life ;)[/QUOTE]
Considering how there's billions of planets in our universe, it would be fairly obvious that atleast some of them would be able to support life.
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