Giuliani Upset At Beyonce's Halftime Show: "An Attack On Police Officers" - Polidicks

i dont understand how someone could be upset over something that you could barely understand, the sound mixing was so bad you could barely make out what anyone was singing.

[QUOTE=Cap'nSpacePants;49714495]BPP actually has a pretty bad history of getting into gunfights with the police. Sometimes it was cause the police were racist or afraid and overreacted. Other times BPP members just straight up shot cops ambush style. Sure they're not as bad as the KKK or Hitler, but plenty of their members were domestic terrorists. Wikipedia has a long list of many of their actions (I know its wikipedia, but the sure volume should give you an idea): [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Panther_Party[/url][/QUOTE] There's a significant difference in their targets. They were not targeting white civilians based on their skin color. They were targeting police officers. That is not a racially-motivated target, it is a politically-motivated one - and the BPP were a political movement first and foremost. I absolutely detest violence, and I think the BPP became a trainwreck pretty quickly even though I respected their initial goals, but you seriously can't compare them to the nazis, the confederacy, or the KKK. The nazis killed civilians en masse because of their nationality, skin color, and religion. The confederacy enslaved civilians en masse because of their skin color. The KKK lynched civilians because of their skin color. I'm not a fan of the BPP for the most part. They did some stupid shit and their history is just mistake after mistake, even though their original goals were admirable. But comparing them to racial superiority groups and [i]the nazi party[/i] is absurd - people should realize that. They weren't out murdering people based on race - almost all of the BPP's deaths were political and involved police or the US Organization in some manner. Yes, they could be considered domestic terrorist. They can't be considered genocidal political parties or slave-driving racial supremacists. Those comparisons don't work.

[QUOTE=.Isak.;49712666]Hitler slaughtered millions. The confederates enslaved an entire race of people. The KKK lynched thousands of innocent people based on the color of their skin. The panthers called police "pigs" and exercised second amendment rights to bear arms to watch police officers. Comparing Hitler to the BPP is absurd. Yes, they were a black pride group. Yes, they were controversial. No, they didn't go out slaughtering white people because they were white. I'm not a huge fan of their militancy and their use of the second amendment, but this idea that they were a black supremacy group that wanted to enact white genocide is fucking stupid. They wanted reparations for slavery, they wanted police accountability, they wanted to police themselves until the police stopped killing them, they wanted to provide free breakfasts for kids. They weren't hunting down white men accused of crimes and dragging them from the back of trucks until they died. They weren't rounding up the whites and putting them in gas chambers. They were extreme, yes, but they are incomparable to the confederacy, the KKK, or the Nazi Party.[/QUOTE] I think you are looking at the data from my comparison and drawing too deep into exact facts (I regret the comparison groups now looking back at it). I was merely trying to point out the ludicrosity at the half time show's presentations. Yes you are correct that they aren't completely identical, but I'm asking you to look at this idea of a double standard on racial prejudice. The black panthers are a known group that used violence against political organizations, many of their books and teachings try to segregate whites and blacks. This is not a historical event that we want to pass our children, much like the ideals of how Hitler, the confederates, and the KKK used of segregation. Again I'm not distancing your argument that the black panthers are not the same as these groups. They have certain ideals that can be scrutinized for their validity. We fight racism with love and acceptance, not with hate and violence, which is what the ideals of the black panthers and many other pro-race foundations (KKK, Hitler, etc.) have brought.

Been noticing more and more lately that as often as people on the right decry "political correctness" and people getting "offended" all the time, there sure have been a lot of people getting "offended" by anything that could be considered remotely "anti-police."

[QUOTE=Levithan;49700066]if they didn't wear safety gear then we'd be talking[/QUOTE] Counterpoint: safety gear allows them to hit each other even harder than they would have been able to otherwise This is why boxing gloves lead to more concussions and why rugby isn't having a problem with all their players turning retarded

[QUOTE=Canesfan;49716517]Been noticing more and more lately that as often as people on the right decry "political correctness" and people getting "offended" all the time, there sure have been a lot of people getting "offended" by anything that could be considered remotely "anti-police."[/QUOTE] I think police are going to be the new troops in that you always have to support what they do 100% of the time.

Has anyone seen the demands of the black panthers before? their official demands? [url]https://www.marxists.org/history/usa/workers/black-panthers/1966/10/15.htm[/url] some highlights: 1. Communism [quote]We believe that the federal government is responsible and obligated to give every man employment or a guaranteed income. We believe that if the White American businessmen will not give full employment, then the means of production should be taken from the businessmen and placed in the community so that the people of the community can organize and employ all of its people and give a high standard of living.[/quote] 2. Reparations [quote]We believe that this racist government has robbed us, and now we are demanding the overdue debt of forty acres and two mules. Forty acres and two mules were promised 100 years ago as restitution for slave labor and mass murder of Black people. We will accept the payment in currency which will be distributed to our many communities. The Germans are now aiding the Jews in Israel for the genocide of the Jewish people. The Germans murdered six million Jews. The American racist has taken part in the slaughter of over fifty million Black people; therefore, we feel that this is a modest demand that we make.[/quote] 3. Categorically release all black prisoners, regardless of their conviction [quote]We Want Freedom For All Black Men Held In Federal, State, County And City Prisons And Jails. We believe that all Black people should be released from the many jails and prisons because they have not received a fair and impartial trial.[/quote] [editline]11th February 2016[/editline] Here's the manifesto of an ally group of whites, the [I]white panthers[/I]: [quote] Full endorsement and support of the Black Panther Party's 10-point Program. Total assault on the culture by any means necessary, including rock and roll, dope, and fucking in the streets. Free exchange of energy and materials—we demand the end of money! Free food, clothes, housing, dope, music, bodies, medical care—everything free for everybody! Free access to information media—free the technology from the greed creeps! Free time & space for all humans—dissolve all unnatural boundaries! Free all schools and all structures from corporate rule—turn the buildings over to the people at once! Free all prisoners everywhere—they are our brothers! Free all soldiers at once—no more conscripted armies! Free the people from their "leaders"—leaders suck—all power to all the people—freedom means free everyone![5] [/quote] sounds like a bunch of college students

Cry harder, white pride.

I can see the controversy since black Panthers are a controversial organization (groups meant to protect the neighborhood against the police are how damned near every gang started, btw), but I'll never understand why we put so much importance into the political opinions of singers and actors

People are always getting upset when the Black Panthers are brought up, yet when the Confederacy or the KKK or whatever are brought up, it's "Just history". White people being afraid of getting attacked for their race is paranoid nonsense. The way the media always explodes over it just goes to show how the systemic oppression minorities actually face is all too often treated as normal day-to-day stuff.