[QUOTE=Doomish;41937349]yes[/QUOTE]
evolution doesn't work like that
[QUOTE=Captain James;41937350]Are you aware of how social adaptosis works?[/QUOTE]
Googled it and the first result was /pol/ yeah ok
[QUOTE=zakedodead;41936480]What if that doesn't matter?[/QUOTE]
It's illogical but it stems from puritan beliefs and for the next hundred or two hundred years, it wouldn't be "considered normal" because most women don't want to show their breasts. Most women don't want saggy tits and they don't want men perving on them.
[QUOTE=Luafox;41937422]not the same thing at all why would you even think that[/QUOTE]
Because if we're going to make the move a person shouldn't have to cover their body parts in public based strictly on gender then why add "but not" to that ideal?
It's like people think that because something is outwardly liberating on paper it will have no discernible effect on particular societies or individuals in a negative way. That is what ignorance is, wanting something now without forethought for the action's consequences, the road to hell is paved with good intentions.
[QUOTE=Shadaez;41937366]Googled it and the first result was /pol/ yeah ok[/QUOTE]
I don't know what /pol/ is.
[QUOTE=Lemonator;41937291]this is stupid, only the fat, gross and ugly feminists are going to do this,[/QUOTE]
And the more that people you consider fat, gross and ugly are allowed to expose their bodies in a normal way, the less fuck ups (that's you) can make them feel bad for qualities that don't matter and can't be changed.
[QUOTE=Captain James;41937481]Because if we're going to make the move a person shouldn't have to cover their body parts in public based strictly on gender then why add "but not" to that ideal?[/QUOTE]
lol are you being serious
men can already be topless in public
penises and breasts aren't comparable since the penis is a sexual organ whereas breasts aren't
[QUOTE=MisterMooth;41937493]lol are you being serious
men can already be topless in public
penises and breasts aren't comparable since the penis is a sexual organ whereas breasts aren't[/QUOTE]
You're not really getting my point, I don't say that to attack you or be an ass hole, just an observation.
The breasts aren't a directly sexual reproductive organ in the sense that they're involved in the process of creating life but because of how our evolutionary trail has worked, it's instinctual to be sexually aroused by them because it's a trait of fertility. That's nature, not favouritism or ego.
[QUOTE=Luafox;41937494]then you're saying people should be able to show their vaginas in public as well since you wanna show your dick[/QUOTE]
That was the idea, yes.
[QUOTE=Captain James;41937519]You're not really getting my point, I don't say that to attack you or be an ass hole, just an observation.
The breasts aren't a directly sexual reproductive organ in the sense that they're involved in the process of creating life but because of how our evolutionary trail has worked, it's instinctual to be sexually aroused by them because it's a trait of fertility. That's nature, not favouritism or ego.[/QUOTE]
you can say the same about stuff like hip width
[QUOTE=MisterMooth;41937524]you can say the same about stuff like hip width[/QUOTE]
Your point being?
[QUOTE=Captain James;41937527]Your point being?[/QUOTE]
we can find a lot of things attractive, but we don't need to hide them because of that
[QUOTE=MisterMooth;41937531]we can find a lot of things attractive, but we don't need to hide them because of that[/QUOTE]
Then you agree with me that because it's been a concept in western mediums and societies throughout the past few centuries that completely nudity is profane, doesn't mean it should be illegal to be nude in public or at the very least be taught from a young age the idea that it's okay to walk around completely naked if it's your choice in institutionalised schools?
Well this day seems like it would be unpleasant as i would rather not walk outside and see an old lady's tits sagging below her waist.
Eh, I'm more excited for bottomless day
In my honest opinion I think both chests should be covered, nobody wants to see fat boobs or moobs when they're going about their daily business. Still somewhat support this though, women shouldn't be treated differently to men
[QUOTE=Vedicardi;41936440]what if youre gay[/QUOTE]
You get murdered by russians
I believe public nudity should be legal.
The idea that people should hide their private parts to protect themselves from perverts is just fucking dumb. If anything, facepunch has plenty of examples that the laws against it is probably more likely based on the idea that people you don't feel attracted by should not be allowed to be naked because you personaly find their bodies icky.
Boobs aren't sexual organs, but neither are butts and both genders hide those. Which leaves penises and vaginas, why leave them out rather than having them be seen as natural as well?
[QUOTE=Simski;41938312]I believe public nudity should be legal.
The idea that people should hide their private parts to protect themselves from perverts is just fucking dumb. If anything, facepunch has plenty of examples that the laws against it is probably more likely based on the idea that people you don't feel attracted by should not be allowed to be naked because you personaly find their bodies icky.
Boobs aren't sexual organs, but neither are butts and both genders hide those. Which leaves penises and vaginas, why leave them out rather than having them be seen as natural as well?[/QUOTE]
It's too burnt into society now, somewhere in history we made a huge mistake.
[QUOTE=Zeb Brown;41938388]It's too burnt into society now, somewhere in history we made a huge mistake.[/QUOTE]
Not really a huge mistake if you ask me, I find it enjoyable to unwrap girls like a christmas present and uncover those forbidden treats.
I don't doubt that, someday, public nudity will be acceptable, though it's gonna take a long, long time.
I bet $10 it's in less than 250 years from now
I'll be frozen in ice and when I leave that cryogenic state, if I see everyone naked, you guys better have my money
[QUOTE=Shadaez;41937366]evolution doesn't work like that
[/QUOTE]
Cultural evolution is not the same as biological evolution.
Anyways I guess I support this
[QUOTE=pedrus24;41938445]Not really a huge mistake if you ask me, I find it enjoyable to unwrap girls like a christmas present and uncover those forbidden treats.[/QUOTE]
See, if we were naked all the time, you could call this a fetish.
[QUOTE=Zeb Brown;41938388]It's too burnt into society now, somewhere in history we made a huge mistake.[/QUOTE]
Puritanism and the like declaring nudity to be an embrace of Satan's sinful ways.
I personally have never found nudity to be very sexual (it's more about WHO I am into than what I am into). If I see a dick, it means I saw a dick. Big whoop. Same goes for breasts and the nefarious vagina. To me, it's just a human sans clothing. Others look at it however, and see temptation incarnate (both gay and straight men alike) and can't not get an erection and start dry-humping at the sight of nudity.
I personally don't understand it, as people have never really crossed my mind as 'sex objects'. Sex is fun, and I do it with people I am particularly fond of, but no particular class of person (male or female, regardless of their state of attire) has ever struck me as 'sexual by virtue of existence'.
It takes effort (time and getting to know me) before I even consider a sexual encounter, and even then it's just a fun thing to do. I'd honestly rather date, go to the movies, or just cuddle with someone than fuck their brains out.
At least the prior lets me get to know someone rather than just letting me see what it's like when they are slurring, yawning, and need help to the shower and fall asleep in the bathtub, in some kind of sex-induced coma that I have to responsibly wake them from, and lead them to bed so they can pass out properly. [sp]<--- Has happened more times with me than you'd believe[/sp]
[QUOTE=Shadaez;41937366]evolution doesn't work like that[/QUOTE]
That's actually exactly how evolution works.
[QUOTE=pedrus24;41938445]Not really a huge mistake if you ask me, I find it enjoyable to unwrap girls like a christmas present and uncover those forbidden treats.[/QUOTE]
Quite often I think the tease IS more fun than the reveal.
The human imagination is powerful... which is a shame because all the best things you can think of are realistically unobtainable.
If I see womens tits all over, all the time, it takes away the joys of removing their shirt, to see those bouncy thangs bounce out.
If it's just once and awhile, I suppose I can like it. Unless old grammy takes it all off.
Then I'll be busy in the bathroom puking.
[QUOTE=Luafox;41938691]im for people walking around naked but only if they aren't ugly!!
lol that would be gross..[/QUOTE]
You should have to get official approval from the boob-rating committee first before exposing your top in public.
Interestingly enough, not even 50 years ago over here in Italy all the ladies used to go to the beach topless.
On the other hand, none used to shave their armpits.
[QUOTE=Simski;41937276]Do women really want their boobs to be de-sexualized though?
I mean... men are crazy about boobs because they're hidden away from us and treated as something special that not everyone is allowed to see. If being topless as a woman is suddenly treated as being just as normal as being topless as a man, then there would be nothing special about topless women anymore.
Now I've personally always been an ass and hips man so I personally would not care if boobs were treated less special... However I still wonder if women would feel the comfort would be worth the loss of a major attraction, especially considering they already do so many other tedious and uncomfortable things like shaving their legs and putting on make-up for the mere fact that they want to be seen as more attractive. If I was a woman I too would value the things people were attracted by, and enjoy being able to flaunt it to attract and arouse someone I like. I would consider it a loss to have something about me everyone considers to be sexy and attractive, to suddenly become normal and uninteresting. As a man... I imagine the feeling to me would be mutual to every woman suddenly having a dick, which would mean that my dick would be treated as significantly less unique and interesting for someone else to explore.[/QUOTE]
I'm sorry, but words do not describe how much i agree with this.
[QUOTE=katbug;41936905]I didn't. As far as I'm aware, I've been asleep for the past two hours.
Unless I've been sleep-shitposting, which is actually probably not that unlikely.[/QUOTE]
Don't worry, I know you don't need to be asleep to do that.
[editline]23rd August 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=thisguy123;41938594]Quite often I think the tease IS more fun than the reveal.
The human imagination is powerful... which is a shame because all the best things you can think of are realistically unobtainable.[/QUOTE]
I want a car that transforms into a giant dinosaur robot :(
[editline]23rd August 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=Derp Y. Mail;41937246]You answered your own question.
Cultures.[/QUOTE]
If it's cultural then it has nothing to do with evolution!
[QUOTE=Doomish;41936332]my birthday landed on a pretty good day it seems c:[/QUOTE]
i hate you you're one day ahead of mine. all I get is the nostalgia night of urugay :c
[QUOTE=Skrill Cosby;41937586]Well this day seems like it would be unpleasant as i would rather not walk outside and see an old lady's tits sagging below her waist.[/QUOTE]
I'm with you on not wanting to see granny's boobs hangin' out, but I still think it should be perfectly legal for her to do so. It's on us to ignore things we find visually unpleasant, not on them to hide those things for our sake. Grandma being able to flop 'er tits out is better than having to hide them because [i]we[/i] don't like looking at said tits.
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