Who is More Conservative: Ronald Reagan or Barack Obama? - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Glaber;23229324]I'd like to see you do the same thing with your personal finances.[/QUOTE] Personal finances are the same as a government reserve of course it's just so simple I really hope to God you're not an Economics teacher

[QUOTE=Uberman77883;23227377]No, that was Carter. During the Carter fuck up, unemployment was at an all time high, and inflation went up 10%. Reagan made our economy booming, and Clinton kept that up, but after Bush and Obama, the economy is going to suck because they made the wrong decisions.[/QUOTE] Trickle down economics is really stupid

[QUOTE=Itachi_Crow;23229602]Personal finances are the same as a government reserve of course it's just so simple I really hope to God you're not an Economics teacher[/QUOTE] I'm not. But the base concept is don't spend what you don't have. Think of the government reserve as the Government's Wallet when the wallet is empty, except for a credit card, any future spending will only increase debt. Also just like how there is frivolous spending for personal things, so too is there frivolous spending for government things (earmarks, pork barrel projects). This is my understanding and I'm sticking to it.

[QUOTE=Ori Child;23227680]I'm sorry but, does it really matter? They were both elected fairly by the public through voting. Despite them both winning they are still not good enough? What the hell is wrong with people. If they don't like them don't elect them. "Hey I know, lets elect this guy then spend the next 4 years talking about how crap he is at it and every little floor he has!" :downs:[/QUOTE] The electoral college votes elect the president, the citizens' votes (are supposed to) direct how the electoral college votes. And even if his economic plan didn't work, Reagan still wins points in my book for having a major hand in ending the Cold War.

[QUOTE=Glaber;23229926]I'm not. But the base concept is don't spend what you don't have. Think of the government reserve as the Government's Wallet when the wallet is empty, except for a credit card, any future spending will only increase debt. Also just like how there is frivolous spending for personal things, so too is there frivolous spending for government things (earmarks, pork barrel projects). This is my understanding and I'm sticking to it.[/QUOTE] If the US were to stop spending money it didn't have, it would have to spend a grand total of 0 dollars per year forever.

No Glaber, you have no idea what you're talking about. Government spending fuels economic growth; cutting spending would lead to more lost jobs, more companies going under, and a downward economic spiral. Personal finances = government spending like a second grade book report = college thesis. They're similar, but if you approach them the same way, you're pretty much fucked.

[QUOTE=Itachi_Crow;23227714]You say that like everyone unanimously chose one candidate. Newsflash, they didn't. Seriously dude that's not how our presidential elections work, you should have learned this in like 3rd grade[/QUOTE] I'm not American. :colbert: I don't know if America uses first past the post or what ever but if only a few people were running I doubt he won on a minority vote. [editline]05:12PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Strider_07;23229975]The electoral college votes elect the president, the citizens' votes (are supposed to) direct how the electoral college votes. And even if his economic plan didn't work, Reagan still wins points in my book for having a major hand in ending the Cold War.[/QUOTE] Ah I see. And I wouldn't say a major hand, but he defiantly had a big one. I personally put it down to Gorbachev gaining power in Russia and agreeing to meet and cooperate etc... but that's off topic.

[QUOTE=Uberman77883;23227377]No, that was Carter. During the Carter fuck up, unemployment was at an all time high, and inflation went up 10%. Reagan made our economy booming, and Clinton kept that up, but after Bush and Obama, the economy is going to suck because they made the wrong decisions.[/QUOTE] No, Bush fucked it up and Obama doesn't know how to fix it. [editline]04:58PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Billiam;23228028]:doh: Hasn't this argument been featured on FP about a thousand times? Also: [URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keynesian_economics[/URL][/QUOTE] That works when we don't have a debt nearly larger than our entire country's GDP.

Those decisions aren't liberal or conservative, they are just pointing out good decisions Reagan made vs. the bad decisions Obama made. [editline]12:16PM[/editline] Or at least "slightly better" decisions Reagan made.

[QUOTE=Glaber;23229926]I'm not. But the base concept is don't spend what you don't have. Think of the government reserve as the Government's Wallet when the wallet is empty, except for a credit card, any future spending will only increase debt. Also just like how there is frivolous spending for personal things, so too is there frivolous spending for government things (earmarks, pork barrel projects). This is my understanding and I'm sticking to it.[/QUOTE] We're so far down the "buy whatever the hell we want and worry about paying later" road at this point that there's no turning back.

[QUOTE=Glaber;23229926]I'm not. But the base concept is don't spend what you don't have. Think of the government reserve as the Government's Wallet when the wallet is empty, except for a credit card, any future spending will only increase debt. Also just like how there is frivolous spending for personal things, so too is there frivolous spending for government things (earmarks, pork barrel projects). This is my understanding and I'm sticking to it.[/QUOTE] You know that cutting government spending won't make jobs magically appear. It's not like they're hiding from you.

[quote] -Escalated the Afghanistan War (Added 30,000 More Troops) -Has Ordered Drone Strikes (Assassinations) on US Citizens Outside the Country[/quote] both are wrong