Dragon Age 2 features Securom, unlike what EA claimed.
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I'm playing it on Linux and the activation crashes on wine, so I used a crack anyway.
Stop it EA, you were doing so well getting your shit back here
[QUOTE=Marlamin;28566159]I'm just going to play the devil's advocate here, but this really looks like there is no SecuROM at all, just some common files also used by SecuROM, hence all the alarms going off.
You people are really getting upset over nothing.[/QUOTE]
Not to mention there's no mention of SecuROM (not even a copyright notice or whatever) in the manual. Just something called EA Access and that's it. There's no SecuROM in this game and that's that
[QUOTE=Johnnsen;28565289]You mean as effective as Securom or all the other junk that gets circumvented in no time, most of the time even pre release?
At least Steam isn't a pain like the alternatives these days are.[/QUOTE]
Steam is more of a pain on Linux than Securom is. With Securom I just use a cracked exe. With Steam I have to start up Steam and then try to figure out if it's even going to launch my game.
[QUOTE=Marlamin;28566299]Not to mention there's no mention of SecuROM (not even a copyright notice or whatever) in the manual. Just something called EA Access and that's it. There's no SecuROM in this game and that's that[/QUOTE]
Yeah because they gave it a different name
[QUOTE=Ollih;28566443]Yeah because they gave it a different name[/QUOTE]
Then it's not SecuROM, and it's not doing the same either. What's the problem then?
These sources aren't very good. I would trust the drunk man on the street more than Destructoid and Reclaim Your Game. Especially after this masterpiece of reporting:
[URL]http://www.destructoid.com/bulletstorm-pc-requires-persistent-internet-update--192844.phtml[/URL]
Turns out that wasn't true. Knee-jerk reaction reporting at its finest.
I'm now an Ollih. I don't have the same name, nor do I function as he does. But somehow, magically, I'm actually an Ollih. In the same magical way that EA Access is SecuROM.
[QUOTE=Zanfall;28566790]These sources aren't very good. I would trust the drunk man on the street more than Destructoid and Reclaim Your Game. Especially after this masterpiece of reporting:
[URL]http://www.destructoid.com/bulletstorm-pc-requires-persistent-internet-update--192844.phtml[/URL]
Turns out that wasn't true. Knee-jerk reaction reporting at its finest.[/QUOTE]
They reported on exactly what was written on EA's site, you can't really blame them.
[QUOTE=goon165;28564732]Catch is, circumventing the DRM is illegal, so you still breaking the law even though the shitty DRM prevents you from playing the game you legally purchased.
so the only way to play the game you legally bought is to break the law and illegally circumvent the DRM of something you legitimately own.
:pseudo:[/QUOTE]
I'm Canadian so no.
Oh look, another game that you've bought and you have to crack it to be able to play it.
[QUOTE=Silly Sil;28567387]Oh look, another game that you've bought and you have to crack it to be able to play it.[/QUOTE]
Oh look, another idiot who doesn't know what he's referring to and simply goes about making comments.
DAII does not have SecuROM. Ars Technica, the idiots at Destructoid and Reclaim Your Games are wrong. Ever hear of a false positive? Renaming SecuROM to Access doesn't make any sense. SecuROM is made by Sony. Access is made by EA. SecuROM exists in other EA titles. Access exists in Mass Effect 2, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age - Awakenings and Dragon Age II. Look it up.
[QUOTE=Offspring;28567578]Oh look, another idiot who doesn't know what he's referring to and simply goes about making comments.
DAII does not have SecuROM. Ars Technica, the idiots at Destructoid and Reclaim Your Games are wrong. Ever hear of a false positive? Renaming SecuROM to Access doesn't make any sense. SecuROM is made by Sony. Access is made by EA. SecuROM exists in other EA titles. Access exists in Mass Effect 2, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age - Awakenings and Dragon Age II. Look it up.[/QUOTE]
Except it is SecuROM.
All the files match SecuROM to the finest point, it makes SecuROM registry entries and if you read the EULA before installing the game it even mentions the SecuROM copyright certificate around 3/4s the way down the page.
It's SecuROM.
[QUOTE=Offspring;28567578]Oh look, another idiot who doesn't know what he's referring to and simply goes about making comments.
DAII does not have SecuROM. Ars Technica, the idiots at Destructoid and Reclaim Your Games are wrong. Ever hear of a false positive? Renaming SecuROM to Access doesn't make any sense. SecuROM is made by Sony. Access is made by EA. SecuROM exists in other EA titles. Access exists in Mass Effect 2, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age - Awakenings and Dragon Age II. Look it up.[/QUOTE]
Hi there EA PR person, welcome to Facepunch!
[QUOTE=DireAvenger;28567864]Except it is SecuROM.
All the files match SecuROM to the finest point, it makes SecuROM registry entries and if you read the EULA before installing the game it even mentions the SecuROM copyright certificate around 3/4s the way down the page.
It's SecuROM.[/QUOTE]
Really? Please do show how they match, I haven't even seen one bit of actual comparison between SecuROM and the system implemented in Dragon Age 2. Only people "claiming" it's the same.
EA, we trusted you! :argh:
[editline]12th March 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Offspring;28567578]Oh look, another idiot who doesn't know what he's referring to and simply goes about making comments.
DAII does not have SecuROM. Ars Technica, the idiots at Destructoid and Reclaim Your Games are wrong. Ever hear of a false positive? Renaming SecuROM to Access doesn't make any sense. SecuROM is made by Sony. Access is made by EA. SecuROM exists in other EA titles. Access exists in Mass Effect 2, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age - Awakenings and Dragon Age II. Look it up.[/QUOTE]
Hello there fellow PR worker!
Also I don't really see what the big deal about its inclusion is. Wasn't it just used to check with a server to see if it was the games release date?
I'm surprised so many people get up in arms over SecuROM and not things like TAGEs. That even doesn't work on 64-bit Operating Systems. Has anyone here even had any problems caused by SecuROM?
Oh and the Steam version of Dragon Age 2 doesn't even have it anyway.
IT'S NOT SECUROM GUYS IT'S LIKE SECUROM BUT ITS NOT SECUROM BECAUSE SECUROM ISN'T IN THE GAME EVEN THOUGH THERE ARE CLEAR CONNECTIONS TO SECUROM WITHIN IT AND IT EVEN CREATES SECUROM REGISTRY ENTRIES BUT ITS STILL NOT SECUROM SO STOP CLAIMING THAT ITS SECUROM BECAUSE ITS NOT SECUROM - EA Public Relations Team, 2011
[QUOTE=Zanfall;28568644]Also I don't really see what the big deal about its inclusion is. Wasn't it just used to check with a server to see if it was the games release date?
I'm surprised so many people get up in arms over SecuROM and not things like TAGEs. That even doesn't work on 64-bit Operating Systems. Has anyone here even had any problems caused by SecuROM?
Oh and the Steam version of Dragon Age 2 doesn't even have it anyway.[/QUOTE]
If it does include SecuROM in some form, and buyers were not informed, and even lied to, that's far more important than the actual impact of the DRM.
[quote]Anyone that has ever actually used/installed SecuROM DRM and this, and is reasonably impartial in their assesment (ie. is not jumping to conclusion because they see the word 'securom' on the pop up) should be able to clearly tell the two things apart - and appreciate how far apart they actually are.
Incidentally, since the game is now unlocked world wide, everyone should have this auto-removed already anyway.[/quote]
I don't see how that's not clear? For some reason it might seem like SecuROM, and even if it was (which it wasn't), it's been removed anyways seeing the game is unlocked. What's the big deal?
Quick, Someone sue EA for false advertisement!
You can't prevent digital information ([b]especially[/b] if you plan on selling it to the masses) from being copied. Just stop trying already. It's pissing all your legitimate customers off, and it costs you more money just to tack on some lousy software that doesn't work to prevent pirating anyway
Just tack on a CD Check before starting the game and that's that
[QUOTE=goon165;28564732]Catch is, circumventing the DRM is illegal, so you still breaking the law even though the shitty DRM prevents you from playing the game you legally purchased.
so the only way to play the game you legally bought is to break the law and illegally circumvent the DRM of something you legitimately own.
:pseudo:[/QUOTE]
I forgot Sony could make laws.
:downs:
It's only illegal if you pirated it in the first place.
I moderately enjoy the game at the moment, but all the shit going on around it makes me wish I didn't buy it. And it feels [i]very[/i] rushed. God dammit EA.
[QUOTE=Offspring;28567578]Oh look, another idiot who doesn't know what he's referring to and simply goes about making comments.
DAII does not have SecuROM. Ars Technica, the idiots at Destructoid and Reclaim Your Games are wrong. Ever hear of a false positive? Renaming SecuROM to Access doesn't make any sense. SecuROM is made by Sony. Access is made by EA. SecuROM exists in other EA titles. Access exists in Mass Effect 2, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age - Awakenings and Dragon Age II. Look it up.[/QUOTE]
Oh look, an EA employee.
Forward a message up the ladder for me will ya? Your DRMs increase the piracy instead of reducing it. So you loose the money twice, first on the pointless and fast-to-be-cracked DRM and then again lost sales (because since you give gamers middle finger with your shit DRMs they will give you a finger back, instead of cash).
[QUOTE=Legend286;28570909]I forgot Sony could make laws.
:downs:
It's only illegal if you pirated it in the first place.[/QUOTE]
For Americans, the Digital Milennium Copyright Act (DMCA) makes it illegal to crack copy protection mechanisms of any kind for any reason. You can thank Bush for that.
For us Canadians though, it is perfectly legal to do so. Note that it is not legal to possess software you don't legally own, but if you do own it, you can download/crack it. Not suggesting you should, just saying that is the law.
On a related note, those of you suggesting "just crack it", I've seen a few other posters get banned for saying that... just an observation, take from that what you will.
[QUOTE=s0beit;28561264]
Has SecuROM registry entries, lol[/QUOTE]
most things have a registry entry on a windows system, do you even know how it works?
[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;28566310]Steam is more of a pain on Linux than Securom is. With Securom I just use a cracked exe. With Steam I have to start up Steam and then try to figure out if it's even going to launch my game.[/QUOTE]
Solution: Kick the penguin out the window and use Windows. :colbert:
[QUOTE=FlakAttack;28571573]For Americans, the Digital Milennium Copyright Act (DMCA) makes it illegal to crack copy protection mechanisms of any kind for any reason. You can thank Bush for that.
For us Canadians though, it is perfectly legal to do so. Note that it is not legal to possess software you don't legally own, but if you do own it, you can download/crack it. Not suggesting you should, just saying that is the law.
On a related note, those of you suggesting "just crack it", I've seen a few other posters get banned for saying that... just an observation, take from that what you will.[/QUOTE]
It won't stand up in court though, and they have no way to prove it. :smile:
[QUOTE=Marlamin;28566459]Then it's not SecuROM, and it's not doing the same either. What's the problem then?[/QUOTE]
"oh well that robber who broke into my house said he was a police officer so what is the problem :downs:"
[QUOTE=Offspring;28567578]Oh look, another idiot who doesn't know what he's referring to and simply goes about making comments.
DAII does not have SecuROM. Ars Technica, the idiots at Destructoid and Reclaim Your Games are wrong. Ever hear of a false positive? Renaming SecuROM to Access doesn't make any sense. SecuROM is made by Sony. Access is made by EA. SecuROM exists in other EA titles. Access exists in Mass Effect 2, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age - Awakenings and Dragon Age II. Look it up.[/QUOTE]
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