UK General Election Day and Results: 'Parliament is Well Hung.' - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Shadow801;52318945]No other party would dare touch them, if we get a hung parliament it will be a Labour government.[/QUOTE] Or a minority Conservative one - they'd still be the biggest party in Parliament and would have 'first dibs' at forming a government. As for the Conservatives losing seats on Thursday: they had 330 seats in the last Parliament - an absolute majority of just [B]5[/B] and a working majority of 16. I hate to the bearer of bad news but the Conservatives won't lose seats at this election, they're going to gain them and increase their majority. (That's the overall picture, there might be a few odd losses of course.) I'm expecting them to go from 330 seats to around 350/360 seats - an absolute majority of 25/35 seats and a working majority of around 50/70 seats.

[QUOTE=Mythman;52319020]Or a minority Conservative one - they'd still be the biggest party in Parliament and would have 'first dibs' at forming a government. As for the Conservatives losing seats on Thursday: they had 330 seats in the last Parliament - an absolute majority of just [B]5[/B] and a working majority of 16. I hate to the bearer of bad news but the Conservatives won't lose seats at this election, they're going to gain them and increase their majority. (That's the overall picture, there might be a few odd losses of course.) I'm expecting them to go from 330 seats to around 350/360 seats - an absolute majority of 25/35 seats and a working majority of around 50/70 seats.[/QUOTE] It'd more likely be a Labour minority. While they won't enter electoral pacts with anyone to form an official coalition, their aims are more in line with the SNP/Lib Dems than the Tories are with those two, so Labour would be able to pass more legislation in the case of a hung parliament. Not to mention, the PM is appointed by the Queen based on whether or not they can command a majority, so let's hope the Queen does something fun for once and appoints Corbyn. I can picture May and Corbyn doing some sort of drag race around London to see who can get to the throne room first. [quote]The power to dismiss and appoint a prime minister. This power is exercised by the monarch herself. By strong convention she must appoint the individual most capable of commanding a majority in the House of Commons.[/quote]

[QUOTE=MissZoey;52319080]It'd more likely be a Labour minority. While they won't enter electoral pacts with anyone to form an official coalition, their aims are more in line with the SNP/Lib Dems than the Tories are with those two, so Labour would be able to pass more legislation in the case of a hung parliament. Not to mention, the PM is appointed by the Queen based on whether or not they can command a majority, so let's hope the Queen does something fun for once and appoints Corbyn. I can picture May and Corbyn doing some sort of drag race around London to see who can get to the throne room first.[/QUOTE] I still think that a Conservative minority is more likely - as the biggest party, by convention, they get the chance to form a government before anyone else. If they are just shy of 325 they can do a confidence and supply agreement with the DUP and UUP which would give them +10 seats. I can certainly see the DUP & UUP doing a deal with the Conservatives to keep Jeremy Corbyn out of power who they believe, rightly or wrongly, supported Sinn Fein and the IRA.

[QUOTE=Shadow801;52318945]No other party would dare touch them, if we get a hung parliament it will be a Labour government.[/QUOTE] Would be hilarious if lib dems did a coalition with tories again. It would be another round of them relentlessly beating the hope out of their voters. "stop voting for us! *whack* stop trusting us! *whack* whats wrong with you?! *whack* why! *whack* wont! *whack* you! *whack* learn! *kick*"

There's only one sensible choice for Maidenhead this election: [video=youtube;hKjGaTytWM4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKjGaTytWM4[/video]

[QUOTE=Dominic0904;52318792]My area is Labour, I'm going to vote before work in the morning. It will be my first time ever voting in an election.[/QUOTE] Good shit, man. Don't make it your last.

[t]http://i.imgur.com/lM7nbnS.jpg[/t] Corbyn's thing in Telford went well!

[QUOTE=Goberfish;52318490]Oh yes sure, you're in a demand slump and your private sector is already leveraged to all heck at around 230% to GDP so you can't exactly rely on money supply growth backed by private debt to save you if central government's budget position turns positive. [b]I'm sure it'd be just like those times in British history where you didn't have a deficit and the economy grew[/b][/QUOTE] most of the 19th century and a significant portion of the 20th?

Corbyn currently doing simultaneous rallies over satellite. Interested to see how many attending. [media]http://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status/872122660385370112[/media]

Wooah shit, I'm staying in a hotel right across the street from the Synergy Center in Brighton - had no idea that was happening. I did wonder why so many people were queued up outside the place :v: Yeah, there were a lot of people going in - though I wouldn't be able to tell you how many. A couple hundred, maybe more?

[media]https://twitter.com/andysearson/status/871839219592962048[/media] With use of the source above, describe the key features of a dumpster fire. [5 marks]

[QUOTE=NeonpieDFTBA;52319767][media]https://twitter.com/andysearson/status/871839219592962048[/media] With use of the source above, describe the key features of a dumpster fire. [5 marks][/QUOTE] ! FATAL ERROR ! ! FATAL ERROR ! ! STRENGTH CRITICAL ! ! STABILITY CRITICAL ! ENGAGING JOURNALIST-DELETION SUBROUTINE

Fucking great speech from Corbyn.

[QUOTE=Gen. Crumpets;52318563]Corbyn's coming over to the hellhole known as Telford today, gonna head over and see it for myself. It'll be interesting, given how right-wing this place is.[/QUOTE] I went to that 😃 greetings fellow Telford dwelling FPer. There's a lot of bootlicking types around here (maybe related to MOD Donnington) but still at least it's a marginal. Lucy Allan with her lying and bullying and just general crapness should hopefully be ousted. I have a bad feeling that lots of people here might vote Tory on the basis of Brexit as it was quite heavily Leave afaik. The only other reason anyone would vote Tory around here with the low average wages etc. would probably be Stockholm syndrome.

:disgust: [video]https://youtu.be/Gt7lWRtfve8[/video]

[URL="http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/theresa-may-human-rights-laws-terror-legislation-london-attack-tear-up-election-latest-a7776286.html"]"Kiss your human rights goodbye!" - Party slated to win election[/URL] [QUOTE]Theresa May has said she is prepared to throw out human rights laws if they restrict new tougher legislation to tackle terrorism. The Prime Minister said she will make it easier to deport foreign terror suspects back "to their own countries" and would "restrict the freedom and movements of terrorist suspects" if re-elected on 8 June. Addressing supporters in Slough just 36 hours before the polls open, she vowed to change the laws if they impeded efforts to fight the increasingly "complex" terror threat. "As we see the threat changing, evolving becoming a more complex threat, we need to make sure that our police and security and intelligence agencies have the powers they need," Ms May said. "I mean longer prison sentences for people convicted of terrorist offences. I mean making it easier for the authorities to deport foreign terrorist suspects back to their own countries." She continued: "And I mean doing more to restrict the freedom and the movements of terrorist suspects when we have enough evidence to know they are a threat, but not enough evidence to prosecute them in full in court. "And if our human rights laws stop us from doing it, we will change the laws so we can do it. If I am elected as Prime Minister on Thursday, that work begins on Friday."[/QUOTE]

Well, this attitude coupled with the fact that they will be able to rewrite 50% of UK law once they repeal all the EU laws is terrifying

[QUOTE=EXPLOOOSIONS!;52320472][URL="http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/theresa-may-human-rights-laws-terror-legislation-london-attack-tear-up-election-latest-a7776286.html"]"Kiss your human rights goodbye!" - Party slated to win election[/URL][/QUOTE] V for Vendetta is moving fast towards becoming real life, I see.

I'm really curious about this election. By the polls alone I very much doubt labour will win, and unfortunately I don't think the tories will lose seats (they'll probably gain) [T]http://puu.sh/wcT8s/92ce9c156f.png[/T] [T]http://puu.sh/wcTcM/a1e6dd6d73.png[/T] [T]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8b/2017_UK_General_Election_polls_graph_-_short_timeperiod.png[/T] Labour has been doing a great job, momentum-wise, but I think they're facing more resistance over time, and the election is very soon. Jeremy Corbyn still has a lot of issues with his own, personal popularity; and while I'm sure party voting intention matters more, this is also a factor.

You've also got to remember that the polls are adjusted mostly now based on young voter turnout. The ones indicating an increased majority are based on higher old turnout than young. YouGov is now assuming huge turnout for young voters, hence the high labour percentages. So the poll averages are becoming less useful as the turnout is anyone's guess.

I dunno, I hold out no hope for this election.

[QUOTE=kharkovus;52320558]I'm really curious about this election. By the polls alone I very much doubt labour will win, and unfortunately I don't think the tories will lose seats (they'll probably gain) [T]http://puu.sh/wcT8s/92ce9c156f.png[/T] [T]http://puu.sh/wcTcM/a1e6dd6d73.png[/T] [T]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8b/2017_UK_General_Election_polls_graph_-_short_timeperiod.png[/T] Labour has been doing a great job, momentum-wise, but I think they're facing more resistance over time, and the election is very soon. Jeremy Corbyn still has a lot of issues with his own, personal popularity; and while I'm sure party voting intention matters more, this is also a factor.[/QUOTE] Even if they don't manage to win a majority, the fact Labour are even polling this well is impressive considering Corbyn is supposedly "unelectable". Since he's taken a more public position with the run up to the GE he has gained a fair bit of popularity for his ability to fairly clearly and concisely speak. Even if his answers aren't what the public wanted. The election isn't going to be a total wash in favour of May, but it's still going to be quite the fight. I really hope this fucking farce sows distrust within the Tories, they're already a bunch of backstabbing cunts as is, this isn't going to make them like her one bit once it's over.

I am not so sure about that, Labour doing better than expected isn't going to make the Tories whisper behind May's back or make her look like a weak leader if she still wins and if predicted gains seats. Only them loosing seats or the end result being considerably narrower is going to do that, and as things look I cannot see that happening. At best a 5% difference, but I cannot see a hung parliament or a Labour victory coming out of this one.

why the hell are the conservatives even this high in the polls

What about the silent voters? The ones that don't answer or say anything to polls or interviews? Do we know how many there could be?

[QUOTE=Handsome Matt;52320781]i don't actually know who votes for them or for what reason other then - my grandad is voting conservative, he seems to agree with every labour policy, disagree with every conservative policy. but is literally voting conservative because he thinks theresa may will: 1. do a better job at defending against terrorist attacks (i presented the obvious argument that y'know police cuts etc..) 2. actually leave the EU with a good deal (seems to think other parties will refuse to leave even though article 50 has been triggered) 3. "doesn't like" jeremy corbyn (got really upset that corbyn wouldn't throw nukes first hand at all the muslim terrorists) i feel like these are just common thoughts in the older generations mind[/QUOTE] Can confirm that my grandparents are like this, are very pro-Labour in every policy bar immigration and the EU. They want closed borders and 'Britain for the British' despite my mother being a German citizen who married their son :v:

[QUOTE=GlebGuy;52320785]What about the silent voters? The ones that don't answer or say anything to polls or interviews? Do we know how many there could be?[/QUOTE] Who knows, but young voters and anti-tories have been so outspoken I don't reckon there's a very good chance a silent majority will suddenly get off their seats for Corbyn *I mean I'd like to eat my own words but this will be nothing like another November 8

[QUOTE=GlebGuy;52320785]What about the silent voters? The ones that don't answer or say anything to polls or interviews? Do we know how many there could be?[/QUOTE] That is a good point, however last time around those silent voters seemed to be Conservatives given what some of the polls last time around predicted.

So what happens when the older generation dies off because they're old and their care homes and NHS just abandon them? Or will they miraculously discover immortality for old people to keep themselves in power?

[QUOTE=Viper202;52320838]Who knows, but young voters and anti-tories have been so outspoken I don't reckon there's a very good chance a silent majority will suddenly get off their seats for Corbyn *I mean I'd like to eat my own words but this will be nothing like another November 8[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Chrisordie;52320842]That is a good point, however last time around those silent voters seemed to be Conservatives given what some of the polls last time around predicted.[/QUOTE] We don't know exactly how many Labour voters have been outspoken though. I believe that a lot of young voters don't like to talk about politics, but they are aware the Labour is the best choice. Corbyn has been churning out a lot of short, hopeful messages that will take anyone's attention, while May has been shown in negative light more and more often. At same time, it's best to remember the whole Trump & Hillary fiasco where people said they'd vote Hillary, but once the election rolled in, Trump was voted in by those same people. Though it should also be noted that Hillary gave nothing of substance to think about anyway. Still, food for thought, eh?