UK General Election Day and Results: 'Parliament is Well Hung.'
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One of those seats is represented by the speaker remember, who is prevented from voting in the house of commons. Currently Conservative Jon Bercow, so you can realistically remove one from whatever final tally of seats the Conservatives actually end up with.
[QUOTE=RVFHarrier;52315005]One of those seats is represented by the speaker remember, who is prevented from voting in the house of commons. Currently Conservative Jon Bercow, so you can realistically remove one from whatever final tally of seats the Conservatives actually end up with.[/QUOTE]
It's actually even more complicated than that:
650 seats means that anything over 325 is an [I]absolute[/I] majority.
650 seats in the House of Commons
- 1 seat (for the Speaker who doesn't vote)
- 3 seats (for the deputy speakers who don't vote)
- 4 seats (for Sinn Fein who don't take their seats)
So that leaves 642 seats who can vote, thus needing >321 seats for a [I]relative[/I] majority.
Also, any seat the Conservatives take reduces the opposition: every seat over the 321 figures is effectively a 2 seat majority.
322 Con Seats v 320 Oppo Seats = a majority of 2
323 Con Seats v 319 Oppo Seats = a majority of 4
350 Con Seats v 292 Oppo Seats = a majority of 58 etc.
The trend works in reverse too, so every seat the Opposition takes from the Conservatives reduces their majority by 2.
After Brexit, I've decided to instead change my outlook from 'find an excuse not to vote' like young people do with their pessimism/ignorance to 'find an excuse to vote'.
Because if you don't vote, it's as bad as saying yes to everything from allowing the government to kick you in the balls to allowing them to kill all the babies. Maybe.
[QUOTE=killerteacup;52314442]An election is the perfect time to talk about this sort of thing. You guys have a clear choice to make about how you're going to address terrorism in the next four years and it's imperative you make the right one. The tragedy highlights that. Noone is taking advantage of the victims by saying so.
It's also perfectly appropriate to question Theresa May's credentials in this matter. You don't want someone who cuts police forces in times like this.[/QUOTE]
You have to apply this to May too, though. She got a ton of shit for "pushing an agenda" for talking about she would tackle the threat by cracking down on online extremism
"Jeremy Corbyn calls for Theresa May to resign as Prime Minister for presiding over police cuts while Home Secretary"
[URL]http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/jeremy-corbyn-theresa-may-resign-prime-minister-police-cuts-london-terror-attack-election-2017-a7773286.html[/URL]
[QUOTE=Bob The Knob;52315391]You have to apply this to May too, though. She got a ton of shit for "pushing an agenda" for talking about she would tackle the threat by cracking down on online extremism[/QUOTE]
Her "solution" is hardly a solution at all though. It's a blatant attempt at a power grab.
I've got no problem with politicians using tragedy to push agenda - provided it's done in good faith and their agenda is to genuinely alleviate the problem, rather than cement their own power base and pander to ignorance and hatred. Trouble is, the latter set of circumstances describes pretty much every example of agenda-pushing out there.
I wonder how likely a hung parliament is.
Going off the opinion polls?
Either very unlikely, unlikely or 100% going to happen.
Personally I can't see it happening. May is probably going to win this.
I will consider a hung parliament a victory.
I know Labour probably won't get in.
[QUOTE=Chrisordie;52315733]Going off the opinion polls?
Either very unlikely, unlikely or 100% going to happen.
Personally I can't see it happening. May is probably going to win this.[/QUOTE]
Personal theory is that May wins, Tories call a no-confidence vote and BoJo takes over.
[I]This was his plan all along.[/I]
Lets hope the youth vote can show this kind of support on Thursday.
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[QUOTE=Grizz;52315894]Lets hope the youth vote can show this kind of support on Thursday.
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Do you think that the terrorism attacks will deter them from wanting to vote?
[QUOTE=Dr. Odyssey;52315931]Do you think that the terrorism attacks will deter them from wanting to vote?[/QUOTE]
I think One Love Manchester last night showed the effect terrorist attacks have had. Nothing but the opposite of what they could have hoped to achieve.
Either way, I think this election could have used another week. Even if the BBC are still doing their disgusting best to butcher the coverage, Corbyn is finally getting the exposure we were told would help swing things around from the moment it was called.
[QUOTE=Dr. Odyssey;52315931]Do you think that the terrorism attacks will deter them from wanting to vote?[/QUOTE]
If anything it'd probably help the youth vote in some manner as the current policies of this government aren't helping in any manner at all. The youth of the country are poorer, have less opportunity and thanks to the crippled police forces, less secure. All so the Tories can "save money" for dumb shit like this;
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So May has doubled down on her stupid "spy on the Internet" idea.
Please, if you even remotely pretend to care about wasteful spending, do not elect this woman, or anybody with similar desires. You quite literally cannot spy on the Internet.
You'll be spending an excessive amount of money on either staff or computing power to try and sift through impossibly large amounts of data. Triggering more false flags than we have the police force to investigate, straining a strained law system even more.
And that's assuming nothing is encrypted! You quite literally cannot spy on anything using modern security, it's by design so hard to crack that you'll either spend infinite money or near infinite time doing so (estimates to crack even weak encryption tend to be longer than the earth will stay inhabitable).
And no, government only back doors don't work. They'll be found and exploited by some 12 year old within days at best. Meaning all your bank details, passwords, etc. Are now in the open.
Investing in this idea is a dead end, that in the end will allow the government to decide what you see, whilst both doing nothing, and likely bankrupting the county.
5 minutes of research could have told her this. So she's either malicious or wholly incompetent.
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[editline]5th June 2017[/editline]
It appears I used "quite literally" in that more times than I remember. C-, see me after class.
[QUOTE=hexpunK;52315962]If anything it'd probably help the youth vote in some manner as the current policies of this government aren't helping in any manner at all. The youth of the country are poorer, have less opportunity and thanks to the crippled police forces, less secure. All so the Tories can "save money" for dumb shit like this;
And making more off the dead bodies of Yemeni children. Countries should seriously stop allowing Saudi Arabia to buy weapons from them.
[QUOTE=Handsome Matt;52314577]Sinking feeling that Conservatives are going to win again. No matter how much shit the Tories do - the older generation seems dead set on voting for them, even if they agree 100% with Labour policies and not at all with May's.
I don't like it, they fucked us with Brexit and now they're fucking us with this too. Fucking die already, all you do is spend your time consuming the tabloid shit, watching BGT and then hoping we nuke the middle east.[/QUOTE]
The way to win this election is, we should all show our grandparents nice things about Jeremy Corbyn from twitter, tell them why the Tories are bad (especially if they're poor or love foxes), and get them to vote Labour. Failing that, remind them that it's your future and they'll be doing their dear grandchild a favour.
Honestly, to me it seems like the young population getting into the voting booths is what will decide the amount of losses the Tories will suffer. The information for people to make their decision is already out there.
[QUOTE=Handsome Matt;52314577]Sinking feeling that Conservatives are going to win again. No matter how much shit the Tories do - the older generation seems dead set on voting for them, even if they agree 100% with Labour policies and not at all with May's.
I don't like it, they fucked us with Brexit and now they're fucking us with this too. Fucking die already, all you do is spend your time consuming the tabloid shit, watching BGT and then hoping we nuke the middle east.[/QUOTE]
If it's any consolation, my grandparents were exactly the same.
Consistently voted conservative their entire lives, sticking to this weird mantra about "crumbs from the rich man's table" and swallowing literally everything they heard on tv or read in the paper.
Even having a grandson with a disability, my nan would tell me about how the fake disabled scroungers are sinking our country "well, you aren't faking it like the rest of them! so they will leave you alone!".
Strongly supported Brexit, with all the usual nonsense about 350 million for the NHS and how immigrants are stealing all the money and jobs.
Despite all this, they are voting Labour this time around. Because my Grandad has dementia and the Tories have set their sights on people just like him.
I don't want to get my hopes up but part of me thinks they might have fucked up when they went after pensioners.
[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZwfU0015jQ[/media]
0:45: [I]Better get Cressida Dick out of shot...[/I]
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0:45: [I]Better get Cressida Dick out of shot...[/I][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Some stupid wanker has probably already]"but it's all Corbyn's fault because my mate said that Corbyn said that "those ISIS muzzies are my chums"[/QUOTE]
On top of the tragedy of the acts themselves, the fact that they happened so close to the upcoming election and with people talking about the Conservative's police cuts it might just undermine the whole "strong and stable" mantra of May's supporters.
Then again, people swayed by that cheap tactic could have Theresa May miss the button to defuse an incoming nuke and they'd still blame anyone but their own ignorance to the fact that she's a bitch.
[Media]https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/871858754769301504[/media]
The replies :v: :v:
The polls have entered the shit-zone where they're no longer any use. Sadly they don't represent the actual chances of each party winning, because of the problems with constituencies - kind of like a very lite version of the electoral college. I think Labour are behind in seats based on the polls, but that's entirely based on modelling too, not on actual local polls which aren't really a thing. It's all to fight for.
As ive said before, either side could win and it wouldn't shock me in the slightest. Can't really rely on any kind of poll for a foolproof idea of the result.
Not to be foolish in my hope, but the survation poll was pretty much the only one that called the 2015 GE correctly. There is still a fools hope.
[QUOTE=fulgrim;52316655]As ive said before, either side could win and it wouldn't shock me in the slightest. Can't really rely on any kind of poll for a foolproof idea of the result.[/QUOTE]
Monster Raving Loony party with a runaway victory!
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The replies :v: :v:[/QUOTE]
Tories shitting themselves.
maybe late, but anyway a uk citizen living abroad can vote?
[QUOTE=Grizz;52315894]Lets hope the youth vote can show this kind of support on Thursday.
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I was there, top right corner somewhere. It was amazing. What you can't see here is the 5,000 people in the car park just past this picture.
Richard Burgon posted a video
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