I think Steam is getting more and more competitors like GoG for example. Classic games at low cost WITHOUT ANY DRM? Doesn't even need to run a client? Yes, please!
Steam's always-online-DRM is being cracked like any other anyway, I don't see much point to it. I think the idea comes from the "uncrackable multiplayer games", but the reason they aren't pirated is because finding a cracked server with considerable players is harder than finding a legal one. Emulating a DRM server response on the other hand is easy as pie.
[QUOTE=The golden;35809651]Not trying to defend Origin or EA here
but seriously? You think a monopoly is a good thing?
Competition is why Valve is able to offer you such nice deals. You think those will stick around if Steam is the only DD service?[/QUOTE]
I don't mind them trying to compete, but that shit were the pulled their games of steam is fucking stupid.
Well what you're doing wrong is having Origin exist at all. Scrap it already ffs.
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;35810150]I don't mind them trying to compete, but that shit were the pulled their games of steam is fucking stupid.[/QUOTE]
What? they would have to have sensible prices if they were going up against steam, nobody would use Origin otherwise.
[QUOTE]Since its launch in June 2011, Origin has undergone a quiet evolution, smoothing corners, strengthening foundations, and adding—piece by piece—the elements needed to make it a truly enjoyable gaming platform. However, in focusing so intently on what’s to come, we haven’t always succeeded in communicating what’s already available. That’s where our users bring invaluable insight to the Origin conversation.
Recently, Jon Peddie got in touch with EA about what he thought was a missing feature; he had purchased a game on Origin and wanted to run it on a new PC, but couldn’t get past an error screen and was understandably frustrated. We were able to connect with him about what was happening and rebuild his account to fix the issue. The exchange also made it obvious to us that some of Origin’s most fundamental features—like the ability to play your games from any PC—weren’t as clear as we’d hoped.
That’s where you come in. Like Peddie, you have a unique opportunity to engage us in conversation and help shape the future of Origin. That’s why we’d like to ask you to use take a moment and leave a comment about (1) Your favorite Origin feature and (2) A feature you’d like to see added or improved upon.
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Experiencing a more technical issue with Origin? You can always contact Origin Help for friendly, 24/7 assistance.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.ea.com/news/the-origin-conversation[/url]
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Have no problem with Origin itself really. That being said, I've only actually run the program a handful of times.
That being said, I still wish they'd sell Mass Effect 3 on Steam.
[QUOTE=The golden;35809651]Not trying to defend Origin or EA here
but seriously? You think a monopoly is a good thing?
Competition is why Valve is able to offer you such nice deals. You think those will stick around if Steam is the only DD service?[/QUOTE]
Steam is more than just a DD store. Steamworks is incredible and makes all games better. It's not like Steamworks games are only sold on Steam.
[QUOTE=01271;35809754][img]http://filesmelt.com/dl/ScreenCap_2012-05-03_a_10.26_.22_.png[/img][/QUOTE]
I have no idea how this could be even more correct.
I'm okay with Origin. It's not perfect, because it's new. But it's decent enough. I get faster download rates and it uses less memory than Steam does idle. Plus I can just load Origin through steam and the overlay works on all the games. Any competition is good competition.
[QUOTE=The golden;35811265]100% subjective opinion.
I personally loathe steamworks.[/QUOTE]
Why would you do that? Never before has modding been so streamlined.
[QUOTE=The golden;35811265]100% subjective opinion.
I personally loathe steamworks.[/QUOTE]
Explain why.
[QUOTE=The golden;35811339]I'm not going to list my dislikes because it would start a fanboy shitstorm as it always does. FP doesn't know how to handle differing opinions maturely. I'm not going to derail the thread.[/QUOTE]
You're going to get bombarded with dumbs (and flaming posts) until you do, so might as well.
Hell, you're being mature about it so chances are you have valid reasons (and won't get anywhere near as much crap as you expect)
[QUOTE=The golden;35810090]You wanna back that up with something? I did some quick looking around and I found no evidence of there being 2 "versions" of a monopoly.[/QUOTE]
[img]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5483751/Photos/2012-05-03_2127.png[/img]
From the english wiki
[IMG]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/20218574/probrem.JPG[/IMG]
Found the main problem.
[QUOTE=The golden;35811339]I'm not going to list my dislikes because it would start a fanboy shitstorm as it always does. FP doesn't know how to handle differing opinions maturely. I'm not going to derail the thread.
Yay someone with a brain.[/QUOTE]
You've already thrown out that you hate it, you may as well just back it up at this point.
FYI, nobody here is disagreeing with you about the competition being a good thing.
Origin itself is a decent program that does what it's supposed to
I just don't want any more of these types of software
[QUOTE=Marik Bentusi;35810144]I think Steam is getting more and more competitors like GoG for example. Classic games at low cost WITHOUT ANY DRM? Doesn't even need to run a client? Yes, please![/QUOTE]
See I don't mind DRM as long as it's unobtrusive. And the only DRM I've ever used that's unobtrusive is Steam. With every other DRM I've had to torrent and crack a copy of whatever game it is. And I'm a paying customer - I have a CD key, I have a receipt, I shouldn't have to fight some third party program every fucking time I launch it.
And companies wonder why piracy rates are so high in the PC market.
[QUOTE=mobrockers2;35811405]"power to charge high prices"
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Well they don't, and there are enough competing services to ensure they wouldn't maintain their position for long even if they did. Valve does have an incredibly large market share but the word isn't a just description of their position.
It doesn't provide any service to me except automated patching.
[QUOTE=Im Crimson;35811492]Well they don't, and there are enough competing services to ensure they wouldn't maintain their position for long even if they did. Valve does have an incredibly large market share but the word isn't a just description of their position.[/QUOTE]
I'm arguing that they have a monopoly, not that they're using it. Having a monopoly does not automatically mean you're using it, just means that you could, and valve could if they wanted to.
Steam does that too.
[QUOTE=mobrockers2;35811405][img]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5483751/Photos/2012-05-03_2127.png[/img]
From the english wiki[/QUOTE]
In that case, Steam isn't a monopoly. They DON'T charge high prices.
[QUOTE=MightyMax;35811542]In that case, Steam isn't a monopoly. They DON'T charge high prices.[/QUOTE]
Read it again, please.
I would like to see the server browser/battlelog integrated within origin rather than my internet browser
And have some kind of overlay much like steam integrated into games (such as BF3) where I can access origin things, such as the server browser and VOIP
It would be easier to ask what they did right.
Test origin earlier (no drive so just activated my old mirror's edge copy) and I honestly don't know what the hate is about.
It seems to run better than steam. Looks better than steam. And from what I saw was less of a resource hog compared to steam.
That said - GOG is definitely my favourite these days.
[QUOTE=mobrockers2;35811511]I'm arguing that they have a monopoly, not that they're using it. Having a monopoly does not automatically mean you're using it, just means that you could, and valve could if they wanted to.[/QUOTE]
I know what you mean, but "monopoly" isn't the correct term. A monopoly implies two things; 1. A large market share, and 2. large market power, I.E the power to set the prices high without hurting #1.
Valve's Steam has 1, but not 2.
[QUOTE=The golden;35811590]Australians would beg to differ[/QUOTE]
Lol, good point :v:
[QUOTE=Im Crimson;35811492]Well they don't, and there are enough competing services to ensure they wouldn't maintain their position for long even if they did. Valve does have an incredibly large market share but the word isn't a just description of their position.[/QUOTE]
Infact, it's probably due to the fact that they have such a large market share that publishers are willing to give the go ahead on cheap game sales, which tend to earn a lot of money. If they didnt have that big share, publishers probably wouldnt be willing to put up their games on sale quite so cheaply.
[QUOTE=mobrockers2;35811511]I'm arguing that they have a monopoly, not that they're using it. Having a monopoly does not automatically mean you're using it, just means that you could, and valve could if they wanted to.[/QUOTE]
In my opinion, they're doing a monopoly (if you can call it that) the right, sensible way.
[QUOTE] A live question-and-answer follow-up with Origin’s head honches Robert Kissinger and Mike Lewis will take place on Tuesday.[/QUOTE]
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I don't care if EA chooses to compete with Steam for digital downloading champion or whatever, but ffs get ME3 on Steam. It's ridiculous to host two out of three trilogy games on one platform, then ship the third one off to a different one.
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