‘Kill bankers, not yourselves’ says Greece’s Golden Dawn, and says it aspires to be like Hezbollah - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;40742449]Looking at national debt and printing is very misleading if you want to say the bankers rule the world. pls buy my tinfoil This is a conspiracy website.[/QUOTE] tinfoil this, tinfoil that. No just turn off the damn TV instead. Wake up people! And that does not mean you have to believe in reptilians or listen to alex jones. There is something much more real going on if you care to look past the bullshit. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("conspiracy drivel" - Megafan))[/highlight]

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;40742504]Yes, killing the bankers (the source of all troubles) is a surefire way to not destroy the financial institutions of the world, bring economic collapse, political instability, fear, hoarding, and warfare.[/QUOTE] Economic collapse would be a good thing. Predatory international corporations are responsible for global poverty. A collapse of these economic systems of debt slavery would be rough for us privileged first worlders that benefit from it in America and Europe and East Asia but it would be a boon to everyone else.

[QUOTE=Stalk;40742542]tinfoil this, tinfoil that. No just turn off the damn TV instead. Wake up people! And that does not mean you have to believe in reptilians or listen to alex jones. There is something much more real going on if you care to look past the bullshit.[/QUOTE] 'But the state never lies you fool!'

i'm a pacifist so I don't believe in actually killing any bankers but I do believe in kicking them in the shins and calling them mean names until they give up all of their hoarded wealth

[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;40742551]Economic collapse would be a good thing. Predatory international corporations are responsible for global poverty. A collapse of these economic systems of debt slavery would be rough for us privileged first worlders in America and Europe and East Asia but would be a boon to everyone else.[/QUOTE] First off, economic collapse would hurt the normal guys a lot more than the corporations. Second off, a complete collapse would be chaos and anarchy, in which corporations thrive as anarchy is the purest of capitalism. Also why exactly would it be good that we get shafted and others get a boon? If someone's gotta get shafted, I'll gladly make sure the shafting occurs for the other side. By the way, chaos in the west means desperate measures, which means suddenly, governments will look the other way when corporations exploit poor countries as long as it brings wealth to the west.

[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;40742551]Economic collapse would be a good thing.[/quote] I'm genuinely laughing in real life. People can be this deluded and ignorant of simple economic concepts? [quote]Predatory international corporations are responsible for global poverty.[/quote] No they aren't lol. I could even argue they are helping to do the opposite. [quote]A collapse of these economic systems of debt slavery would be rough for us privileged first worlders that benefit from it in America and Europe and East Asia but it would be a boon to everyone else.[/QUOTE] Debt slavery? Is that where the bank goes "if you default on your loan we'll cut off your legs" ? Debt slavery only exists in underdeveloped economies where the practice is yet to be banned or in areas where criminal syndicates operate.

[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;40742565]i'm a pacifist so I don't believe in actually killing any bankers but I do believe in kicking them in the shins and calling them mean names until they give up all of their hoarded wealth[/QUOTE] I don't think kicking people in the shins is a very pacifist thing to do.

Guy's let's kill all the bankers just cuz'. It's not like they're a major part of developed societies or anything. I hope Golden Dawn just dies out eventually, I can only imagine what would happen if they gained power.

[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;40742551]Economic collapse would be a good thing. Predatory international corporations are responsible for global poverty. A collapse of these economic systems of debt slavery would be rough for us privileged first worlders that benefit from it in America and Europe and East Asia but it would be a boon to everyone else.[/QUOTE] Are you fucking retarded? These companies are doing many things to uplift those poor countries, due to their higher purchasing parity = more of your stuff are sold = richer you are. Simple economics.

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;40742620] Debt slavery? Is that where the bank goes "if you default on your loan we'll cut off your legs" ? [/QUOTE] How about where companies like Monsanto have made it so that using second generation seeds from their genetically modified crops is [url=http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/20/supreme-court-monsanto_n_2720057.html]now, legally, patent infringement[/url], thereby forcing farmers to buy new batches of (expensive) seeds with each generation of crops, preventing the farmers from becoming financially independent?

[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;40742565]i'm a pacifist so I don't believe in actually killing any bankers but I do believe in kicking them in the shins and calling them mean names until they give up all of their hoarded wealth[/QUOTE] You should write a fiction book, but I think Marx already has the market cornered. [editline]22nd May 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=SigmaLambda;40742691]How about where companies like Monsanto have made it so that using second generation seeds from their genetically modified crops is [url=http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/20/supreme-court-monsanto_n_2720057.html]now, legally, patent infringement[/url], thereby forcing farmers to buy new batches of (expensive) seeds with each generation of crops, preventing the farmers from becoming financially independent?[/QUOTE] Why not buy other seeds? Oh wait, Monsanto makes new seed types all the time, and their seeds are superior to other ones. Also I'm not sure how buying seeds = debt slavery.

[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;40742691]How about where companies like Monsanto have made it so that using second generation seeds from their genetically modified crops is [url=http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/20/supreme-court-monsanto_n_2720057.html]now, legally, patent infringement[/url], thereby forcing farmers to buy new batches of (expensive) seeds with each generation of crops, preventing the farmers from becoming financially independent?[/QUOTE] erm this is absolutely nothing new, farmers have had to buy new seeds for hybrid plants from breeders since the 1920s because they're sterile

[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;40742691]How about where companies like Monsanto have made it so that using second generation seeds from their genetically modified crops is [url=http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/20/supreme-court-monsanto_n_2720057.html]now, legally, patent infringement[/url], thereby forcing farmers to buy new batches of (expensive) seeds with each generation of crops, preventing the farmers from becoming financially independent?[/QUOTE] No one is forcing them, they can just buy cheaper crops from another manufacturer.

if i'm not mistaken, monsanto weed killer also kills everything that's not from monsanto, pretty much purging your land

[QUOTE=overpain;40742800]No one is forcing them, they can just buy cheaper crops from another manufacturer.[/QUOTE] Except for the fact that the seed market is getting increasingly monopolistic. In the US, [URL="http://www.mdpi.com/2071-1050/1/4/1266/pdf"]just four companies[/URL] (all with similar attitudes towards "seed saving") own 80 percent of the market for corn and 70 percent of the market for soybeans.

[QUOTE=acds;40741326]15 years olds listening to Linkin Park with a Che shirt of whom they probably don't even know the surname.[/QUOTE] What's wrong with Linkin Park?

[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;40742897]Except for the fact that the seed market is getting increasingly monopolistic. In the US, [URL="http://www.mdpi.com/2071-1050/1/4/1266/pdf"]just four companies[/URL] (all with similar attitudes towards "seed saving") own 80 percent of the market for corn and 70 percent of the market for soybeans.[/QUOTE] An oligopoly is not a monopoly. Also when will you address the other criticisms?

[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;40742747]erm this is absolutely nothing new, farmers have had to buy new seeds for hybrid plants from breeders since the 1920s because they're sterile[/QUOTE] These seeds aren't sterile, they produce entirely viable offspring. But actually planting the seeds from a crop that you yourself planted and raised is considered a violation of patent law.

[QUOTE=download;40740298]This sort of shit is how the Nazis came to power, except replace Jews with bankers[/QUOTE] Alot of bankers are jews..

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;40742985]An oligopoly is not a monopoly. [/QUOTE] You can mince words however you want, it still stands that farmers are increasingly left with fewer and fewer choices as to who they buy their seeds from.

[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;40743032]You can mince words however you want, it still stands that farmers are increasingly left with fewer and fewer choices as to who they buy their seeds from.[/QUOTE] Monopoly = one company rules everything Oligopoly = Few big companies working together controlling the niche.

[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;40743032]You can mince words however you want, it still stands that farmers are increasingly left with fewer and fewer choices as to who they buy their seeds from.[/QUOTE] Except there is still competition among those four, plus the other 20-30% for those two crops alone. Also, how is buying seeds debt slavery? Why can't I just buy seeds from other people? How are predatory international companies responsible for global poverty? Why is economic collapse good? What do you mean by "debt slavery"?

they are right, kill the bankers. after you're done with that, kill the golden dawn.

we kill the batman

can we make golden dawn members shoot-on-sight yet?

[QUOTE=download;40740298]This sort of shit is how the Nazis came to power, except replace Jews with bankers, which in the mind of the Nazis were the same thing. If they start to form their own paramilitary wing I'd say be very concerned[/QUOTE] The Jews were targeted because they were bankers and because they controlled much of the private sector. But to be fair, they really do fuck everything up.

[QUOTE=cccritical;40745801]can we make golden dawn members shoot-on-sight yet?[/QUOTE] If you honestly believe in that, then you're really no different than they are.

Kill the bankers... Now by stereotypes we all know which group is supposed to be connected heavily with banking and Golden Dawn is kind of a radical nationalist party.. Not suggesting anything but the Jews..

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;40742707]You should write a fiction book, but I think Marx already has the market cornered.[/QUOTE] Did a Marxist call you a bad name one time or something?

[QUOTE=Sword and Paint;40743021]Alot of bankers are jews..[/QUOTE] a lot of bankers are not jews [editline]22nd May 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Sobotnik;40742707]You should write a fiction book, but I think Marx already has the market cornered.[/QUOTE] marx is dead find a different leftist to zing with tia