Survivalist group wants to build medieval-style fortress in Idaho
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Suicide cult, calling it now
[img]http://www.thewacoincident.com/graphics/waco_tanks_fire.jpg[/img]
calling it
[quote]“There is no leader,” Christian Kerodin, a convicted felon who is a promoter of the project[/quote]
[quote]“It is very much a ‘grass-roots’ endeavor,’” Kerodin wrote[/quote]
[quote]declining to provide any additional details.[/quote]
yeah this seems shifty as fuck
How about something like the city wok wall
[QUOTE=certified;39498941]This self-sufficient town plan has one major flaw.
There is no space protected within the walls for farming. Absolute failure 0/10. Would not survive illuminati-apocalypse in.[/QUOTE]
They could set up farms between the outer and the inner walls, along with some indoor facilities inside the town. And they don't [I]need[/I] to fortify the farms as long as they put away a percentage of the crop in a storage area in case of siege.
I think the little kid inside us all would love to have our very own fortress.
good, now I know where to go for supplies after the world ends and my group is driving around in our Bradleys and Strikers
wasn't the point of medieval fortresses to provide a base from which to control and oppress the peasant class and withdraw into when the enemy attacked
that and why use defences designed and imagined hundreds of years ago made to ward off iron age armies in present day
i mean if they have machine guns they're going to pulverize your stone walls and the fuck are you going to do to repair them, send out a field mason?
[editline]7th February 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=Ryu-Gi;39500053]I think the little kid inside us all would love to have our very own fortress.[/QUOTE]
i personally always wanted the presidents nuclear bunker but a castle is fine too
[QUOTE=daijitsu;39499232]oh I'd also like to re-mention glenn beck's proposal for a similar city.
[url]http://newsfeed.time.com/2013/01/17/glenn-becks-utopian-community-a-place-called-independence-u-s-a/[/url]
[t]http://24.media.tumblr.com/feec7e6ebe4458c8092c562cd01f02a9/tumblr_mgs82vnuFA1rp3ua6o1_500.png[/t]
I for one welcome Andrew Ryan as my savior[/QUOTE]
Except Glenn Beck has the money, cult following, and rich friends that you would need for something like this to even break ground.
[editline]6th February 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=Ryu-Gi;39500053]I think the little kid inside us all would love to have our very own fortress.[/QUOTE]
I'd rather buy an oil rig or Sealand.
[QUOTE=Shadaez;39499320]Farmland doesn't need to be protected.
erp I'm late
this seems like it would be ran by conservatives and it would be awful[/QUOTE]
honestly if I were them I would be employing the use of sky farm hydroponics, solar polar, and nuclear fission to run my last bastion of humanity
but then they're using designs penned by fucking richard the third so I doubt they know what the word hydroponics means and they probably think fission is something you catch in a river
[QUOTE=OvB;39500109]I'd rather buy an oil rig or Sealand.[/QUOTE]
I think an island fortress would work really well, like the Templar fortress on Ruad. Protected by sea, which would also give access to seafood, and keep people away.
Didn't work for the Templar's, but it's not their fault.
I want this to happen for one reason.
So me and my fellow Communists can rally, take it over, and then claim it as our own socialist paradise :v:
I patiently await the Arcologies from Simcity 2000
[QUOTE=OvB;39500109]Except Glenn Beck has the money, cult following, and rich friends that you would need for something like this to even break ground.[/QUOTE]
the problem is that he wants to build mini america 2.0 with tons of references to things like the gates at ellis island and such, in order to make the statement he thinks America is shit and doesn't deserve him and other 'true patriots'. The greatest part of his desire for ultra-freedom-land is that to make it function as independently and with the equality he describes wanting to afford everyone, you'd literally have to resort to communism, leading slowly into anarchistic descent in such a small ecosystem revolving around Beck's massive ego
[QUOTE=daijitsu;39500295]the problem is that he wants to build mini america 2.0 with tons of references to things like the gates at ellis island and such, in order to make the statement he thinks America is shit and doesn't deserve him and other 'true patriots'. The greatest part of his desire for ultra-freedom-land is that to make it function as independently and with the equality he describes wanting to afford everyone, you'd literally have to resort to communism, leading slowly into anarchistic descent in such a small ecosystem revolving around Beck's massive ego[/QUOTE]
[url=http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=235733]Welcome to Ayn Rand land! Get a gun! Do your work! Fucking listen to me you peasant slave![/url]
[QUOTE=daijitsu;39500295]the problem is that he wants to build mini america 2.0 with tons of references to things like the gates at ellis island and such, in order to make the statement he thinks America is shit and doesn't deserve him and other 'true patriots'. The greatest part of his desire for ultra-freedom-land is that to make it function as independently and with the equality he describes wanting to afford everyone, you'd literally have to resort to communism, leading slowly into anarchistic descent in such a small ecosystem revolving around Beck's massive ego[/QUOTE]
Didn't say I agree with it, or think he should go through with it, I'm just saying Glenn probably has the resources to start such a Disney World-esque adventure.
I'm awaiting the headline already.
[b]FEDERAL AGENTS RAID SURVIVALIST CULT COMPOUND. EXPLOSION KILLS HUNDREDS. SMOKE SEEN AS FAR AWAY AS THE NEVADA BORDER.[/b]
The point is that once they begin operating they'll probably go full-isolationist and pulling shit the feds will not appreciate. One thing will lead to another and either they'll all kill themselves or they will implode and fall into a chaos only seen in Bioshock.
That or we get another bullshit town like bountiful BC.
Yeah that's sort of why people stopped building castles. Cannons and field artillery essentially made the concept of a castle totally pointless since people could just blow the walls apart.
Trenches and giant sandbags is where shit's at now if you want a working fortress
A gun factory and a gun museum but no farmland?
I suppose they can trade guns for food, but seems like a rather poor strategy for a fortress meant to fend off post-apocalyptic marauders.
So where exactly do they get the material required to manufacture any sort of modern weapons? Heck, even muskets require some form of basic engineering and technology.
[QUOTE=Wake;39500841]So where exactly do they get the material required to manufacture any sort of modern weapons? Heck, even muskets require some form of basic engineering and technology.[/QUOTE]
Steel to make guns with is readily available pretty much everywhere. Also consider the Sten was made mostly out of mild steel of the same grade you can buy at pretty much any hardware store (1018). With most modern guns you can just use 4130 alloy steel, and machines to turn a round steel bar into a rifled barrel are pretty easy to make.
[QUOTE=hypno-toad;39500683]Yeah that's sort of why people stopped building castles. Cannons and field artillery essentially made the concept of a castle totally pointless since people could just blow the walls apart.
Trenches and giant sandbags is where shit's at now if you want a working fortress[/QUOTE]
Fuck castles, what they need is a [b]STAR FORTRESS[/b]
[t]http://www.nps.gov/fomc/historyculture/images/Fort.gif[/t]
[QUOTE=ewitwins;39500946]Fuck castles, what they need is a [b]STAR FORTRESS[/b]
[t]http://www.nps.gov/fomc/historyculture/images/Fort.gif[/t][/QUOTE]
Reminds me of the St. Augustine fort
[t]http://www.santamariarestaurant.com/Images/pvt_st-augustine-fort.jpg[/t]
[QUOTE=KillerJaguar;39500999]Reminds me of the St. Augustine fort
[t]http://www.santamariarestaurant.com/Images/pvt_st-augustine-fort.jpg[/t][/QUOTE]
[img]http://www.dartmouthhampton.com/assets/u/HalifaxCitadelHill.jpg[/img]
There are all kinds of star forts. This is the Halifax citadel.
[QUOTE=Sixer;39501118][img]http://www.dartmouthhampton.com/assets/u/HalifaxCitadelHill.jpg[/img]
There are all kinds of star forts. This is the Halifax citadel.[/QUOTE]
Nice place, much bigger than it looks!
[QUOTE=Alan Ninja!;39500710]A gun factory and a gun museum but no farmland?
I suppose they can trade guns for food, but seems like a rather poor strategy for a fortress meant to fend off post-apocalyptic marauders.[/QUOTE]
[sp]This is the home base of the marauders.[/sp]
[QUOTE=FZE;39499141][B]CHILDREN![/B] HAVE THEY[I] NEVER EVEN PLAYED [/i]DWARF FORTRESS?[/QUOTE]
I propose a walled city designed by Dwarf Fortress' top players
All fortresses should be built out at sea, on giant barges or private islands. Even underwater laboratories. No self-respecting criminal mastermind would just plop one down in Idaho, so I wouldn't either.
[QUOTE=Ryu-Gi;39500053]I think the little kid inside us all would love to have our very own fortress.[/QUOTE]
With a dungeon filled with elf girls!
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