Obama releases his 'real' birth certificate. Shuts up Trump. - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Megafanx13;29490713]I think I've seen you say this before about Obama, but can't recall why you dislike him. What are your parameters?[/QUOTE] I just don't generally agree with the way he's doing things. He seems like a REALLY awesome guy. I just don't want him in charge. And TBH the presidential position shouldn't really have as much power as it does. I'm a states rights kind of guy. The founders had it right, and that's how it should be done.

[QUOTE=thisispain;29496465]ugh it's obvious that's not the original document, the original document was scanned, printed onto the background green paper, then signed on the 25th use your brain dude[/QUOTE] then scanned again? it would be signed as soon as it gets put in to the files in hawaii correct? aka 1961? And your also saying that the us state department has full sheets of Hawaii birth certificate paper to print Hawaii birth certificates they've scanned? And the patterns line up too?? That paper has a checkered background standard.

[QUOTE=pastorpaul;29496664]then scanned again? it would be signed as soon as it gets put in to the files in hawaii correct? aka 1961? And your also saying that the us state department has full sheets of Hawaii birth certificate paper to print Hawaii birth certificates they've scanned? And the patterns line up too?? That paper has a checkered background standard.[/QUOTE] yes then it was scanned again into the computer it was signed so one could make sure it was a proper and accurate copy and no that paper does not have a checkered background as standard, the standard is white, it was then scanned and digitally pasted which is why the letters have some white around them it was probably in the register flip-book which is why it folds towards the side

[QUOTE=thisispain;29496741]yes then it was scanned again into the computer it was signed so one could make sure it was a proper and accurate copy and no that paper does not have a checkered background as standard, the standard is white, it was then scanned and digitally pasted which is why the letters have some white around them it was probably in the register flip-book which is why it folds towards the side[/QUOTE] [url]http://omgq.com/13.jpg[/url] Checkered, with seal [url]http://trueconservative101.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/hawaii-birth-certificate-1963.jpg[/url] Scanned, checkered, with seal [url]http://kickthemallout.com/images/Photos/OriginalHawaiiBirthCertificates.jpg[/url] Inverted, with seal (fun fact, these twins were born after obama, yet obama has a higher birth certificate number) What your saying doesnt make any sense.

right that doesn't prove anything though because those are also checkered because they are new

[QUOTE=thisispain;29496882]right that doesn't prove anything though because those are also checkered because they are new[/QUOTE] How is 1966 new?

that's not a 45 year old piece of paper

[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;29493992]Patriotism over a proper good leader? Just out of curiosity, are you a Republican by any chance? Honestly, people should really drop the idea that a president needs to have been born in the country he's presiding over. So what if he wasn't actually born here, we don't elect people for their ethnicity, do we? Last time I checked, policies and promises made me vote for someone, not their origins.[/QUOTE] but the rules for being president say you gotta be from the US Does it help you understand if i do it word by word Why should we change rules, they seem to be working so far.

So I heard that this could be faked because in that time, they would have put "Negro" instead of "African" in the race section :v:

[QUOTE=pastorpaul;29496840] What your saying doesnt make any sense.[/QUOTE] you're saying it's fake but you have no evidence for it at all who's the one here making no sense?

[QUOTE=thisispain;29496989]that's not a 45 year old piece of paper[/QUOTE] Because you can tell the age of a neatly stored document? ONE IS NOTARIZED 1962 AND ONE 1966 and obama's is signed 2011 with no seal?? [QUOTE=SuperHoboMan;29497002]So I heard that this could be faked because in that time, they would have put "Negro" instead of "African" in the race section :v:[/QUOTE] also this [QUOTE=thisispain;29497028]you're saying it's fake but you have no evidence for it at all who's the one here making no sense?[/QUOTE] I am giving you actual documents here, and all you are saying is that is not 45 years old and it was scanned and printed and signed and scanned again. I am telling you can pull apart the layers in illustrator. I am telling you that there are other documents that have been created after obama's, and have a lower document number. You seem to be mistaken.

[QUOTE=pastorpaul;29497066]Because you can tell the age of a neatly stored document? ONE IS NOTARIZED 1962 AND ONE 1966 and obama's is signed 2011 with no seal??[/QUOTE] like i said, these papers don't last so they digitize them and then scan or print them you really think obama's is fake even though it is signed by the proper people and is an obvious photo-copy which is 100% legal you don't have much evidence or logic in your argument, you just negate the evidence against it, like a stubborn fool

[QUOTE=thisispain;29497115]like i said, these papers don't last so they digitize them and then scan or print them you really think obama's is fake even though it is signed by the proper people and is an obvious photo-copy which is 100% legal you don't have much evidence or logic in your argument, you just negate the evidence against it, like a stubborn fool[/QUOTE] A scan is going to show the notary seal. One is clearly marked in pen with the date 6/21/62 next to said seal(this means that that document was signed and notarized on that date by the notary witness). That photo is not of a copy, it is the genuine document.

[QUOTE=pastorpaul;29497207]A scan is going to show the notary seal. One is clearly marked in pen with the date 6/21/62 next to said seal(this means that that document was signed and notarized on that date by the notary witness). That photo is not of a copy, it is the genuine document.[/QUOTE] Go away no one cares.

[QUOTE=pastorpaul;29497207]That photo is not of a copy, it is the genuine document.[/QUOTE] no it isn't, it's very obviously scanned and digitized you are making a gigantic assumption that's completely unsupported

[QUOTE=thisispain;29497254]no it isn't, it's very obviously scanned and digitized you are making a gigantic assumption that's completely unsupported[/QUOTE] look at [url]http://omgq.com/13.jpg[/url] It is a picture, with a notary seal, of 6/21/61 [url]http://trueconservative101.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/hawaii-birth-certificate-1963.jpg[/url] is scanned, it is not digitized at all none of the photos ive provided are digitized. The only digitizing done was the editing of obamas document.

[QUOTE=pastorpaul;29497319]look at [url]http://omgq.com/13.jpg[/url] It is a picture, with a notary seal, of 6/21/61 [url]http://trueconservative101.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/hawaii-birth-certificate-1963.jpg[/url] is scanned, it is not digitized at all none of the photos ive provided are digitized.[/QUOTE] Go away, no one cares. As a side note, do you really think one of the most technologically advanced governments in the world, with billions of dollars of technology at their disposal and the some of the best experts at their hands, would counterfeit a document in such a poor way that a bunch of conservative bumblefucks online can pop it in Photoshop and blow their whole gigantic scheme apart?

[QUOTE=Xen Tricks;29497366]As a side note, do you really think one of the most technologically advanced governments in the world, with billions of dollars of technology at their disposal and the some of the best experts at their hands, would counterfeit a document in such a poor way that a bunch of conservative bumblefucks online can pop it in Photoshop and blow their whole gigantic scheme apart?[/QUOTE] Even experts make mistakes.

[img]http://www.msu.edu/~schutchr/birthcertificate.jpg[/img] I HAVE YOU NOW OBAMA

[QUOTE=pastorpaul;29497319] none of the photos ive provided are digitized.[/QUOTE] what you are looking at them on a computer i don't think you even know what you are talking about

[QUOTE=thisispain;29497470]what you are looking at them on a computer i don't think you even know what you are talking about[/QUOTE] Digitized document you ass hat. A photo is not a document. I am not looking at PDFs or DOCs of them, I am looking at jpegs. A photo of a piece of paper is not a proper digital storage method.

What pastor is saying is that the COPY of the birth certificate from that hospital in hawaii has no seal anywhere to show that it is the authentic birth certificate. And when you open the thing in illustrator, you can remove the layers that look like they were edited, I don't know how you are coming about to this "digitally scanned" thing.. He also mentioned the twins that were born after Obama have a lower birth identification number and they were born at the same hospital which is also very very confusing.

so obama's birth certificate copy was digitally edited and recreated as a forgery that's more believable as opposed to obama's birth certificate copy was digitized and signed for authenticity? do you know what occam's razor is?

anyone who doesn't think obama was born in the US is basically a racist who can't handle that a black president is running the country, and are looking for a way to legitimize their view that he needs to go.

[QUOTE=JLea;29497624]anyone who doesn't think obama was born in the US is basically a racist who can't handle that a black president is running the country, and are looking for a way to legitimize their view that he needs to go.[/QUOTE] Uhh, no I actually believe he should remain in office for the next term. I am also not racist. The birth certificate just seems very sketchy, and while he may not be a natural born U.S. citizen, I believe he is fully capable of handling the presidency.

[QUOTE=thisispain;29497622]so obama's birth certificate copy was digitally edited and recreated as a forgery that's more believable as opposed to obama's birth certificate copy was digitized and signed for authenticity?[/quote] There isnt an original, it was fabricated. While you have provided no support for the second, and the second doesnt make any sense. [quote]do you know what occam's razor is?[/QUOTE] No, nor do i care.

[QUOTE=Gardasian;29497702] The birth certificate just seems very sketchy[/QUOTE] it's good enough for the DMV or the federal government so i don't think you really have any authority to question it

[QUOTE=Gardasian;29497702]Uhh, no I actually believe he should remain in office for the next term. I am also not racist. The birth certificate just seems very sketchy, and while he may not be a natural born U.S. citizen, I believe he is fully capable of handling the presidency.[/QUOTE] Do you seriously think the most powerful country in the world would do something as retarded as not make a background check before admitting him to power.

i wanted to update my car registration the other day and i was under so much pressure and scrutiny that i almost gave up and went home and i'm not even fucking obama

[QUOTE=JLea;29497757]Do you seriously think the most powerful country in the world would do something as retarded as not make a background check before admitting him to power.[/QUOTE] George bush.