TN Cop fatally shoots ax-wielding woman, Chivalry confirmed not dead - Polidicks

[QUOTE=FinalHunter;50097393]Except this kind of situations happens in an instant.. You don't have time to wait for some guy in SWAT gear to drive across the city to try and tackle some idiot with a weapon.[/QUOTE] then either you up your spending and try to get officers better protective gear when they're on-duty(assuming it doesnt fly into the pockets of corrupt departments anyways) or you train them better in both deescalating a situation and/or disarming opponents the situation i suggested is more of a "we know there's a guy whos been walking around with a weapon, lets counter that with an armored deterrent"

[QUOTE=Cold Blood;50090720]There's definitely some nuts in Gallatin which is the neighboring city to where my home is.[/QUOTE] I'm surprised it didn't happen in Madison tbh. Then again it probably wouldn't kick up too much fuss if it happened there.

[QUOTE=aznz888;50097304]i never said a whole team, but considering how some police departments range from having full-on paramilitary armanents to shit-for-equipment, we could at least give them a bit more protection 1. yeah, expenses are a thing. 2. scare the public how? if someone's walking around with a machete ready to chop, i'm [I]pretty sure[/I] seeing law enforcement roll onto the scene is a welcome sight than not. 3 & 4. uhh, did you read what i said? i'm not expecting every single minor incident to be run over by a bunch of 6'4 240 lbs men wearing a EOD suit. i'm just saying in a situation where someone's armed and dangerous, you just [I]maybe[/I] might want some gear for it.[/QUOTE] The Japanese Police have the same policy/mentality that you're going on about. They have like these [url=http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=641_1456164569]weird long grabbing sticks[/url] that they use to apprehend people from a safe distance. [editline]9th April 2016[/editline] And anyway the role you describe is generally that of the riot police. In Singapore our riot-police equivalent are regularly called upon to apprehend knife-wielding suspects. [img]http://images.singaporeseen.stomp.com.sg/featured/2015/10/police.jpg[/img]

[QUOTE=Cheeseist;50091627]She has my family name, i find it kind of an uncommon name so i wonder if im related to her:v:[/QUOTE] Are you black?:vs:

Annnd we come back to the same discussion. American cops are different than most of the rest of the world. The US has a low population density. That means a handful of cops generally patrol a much larger area than they would in other places. In practice this means that American patrol officers often respond with little or no backup after traveling a decent distance to respond to the call at all. Patrol officers have to do EVERYTHING.

[QUOTE=Rika-chan;50091302]Yeah because everytime that something like this happens there will be 20 people in the thread saying "why didn't they use their taser!!!?"[/QUOTE] It clearly depends on the situation. It's not like this is a reflex by every user but there were many situations in the past that could have been resolved in a more professional and non-lethal way.

this could have been avoided if she had weed

[QUOTE=Zang-Pog;50099063]I don't understand how anybody could even think the police officer did something wrong. This really just looks like she wanted to commit suicide by cop, because I can't really think of any other outcome she could have achieved with powerwalking towards the officer repeatedly yelling her to put the axe down while pointing a gun at her[/QUOTE] Because people think that a taser is the appropriate response to a knife.

[QUOTE=angelangel;50099111]Because people think that a taser is the appropriate response to a knife.[/QUOTE] To be fair no one actually outright said that here. There was a joke made and then someone was legitimately curious as to why tasers aren't used in these situations, but nobody outright stated that the police officer was wrong in using a firearm. The "why didn't the policeman do a german supplex into a non-lethal tactical elbow drop" crowd stopped showing up after they became a punchline. Seems to coincide with [url=https://facepunch.com/member.php?u=54632]our resident neckbeard[/url] getting banned.

[QUOTE=LtKyle2;50090640]Why didn't he taze her in the knee?[/QUOTE] Can this be considered a meme reply yet?

I can't wait until [URL="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrolaser"]Electrolasers[/URL] become a thing. Then you just keep it pointed at a target and they can't move. Although, I have no idea how practical they would really be in the field. As for the armor thing. You guys realize that even SWAT armor won't stop an axe right? SWAT armor is usually just a high grade ballistic vest ( which aren't usually intended to stop anything but bullets) and a helmet right? The axe does both cutting and blunt damage, would still cut or break an arm or leg. Riot gear is the closest thing that might help, but even then, what do you want a riot officer to do? Run at and tackle the axe wielding attacker?

[QUOTE=proboardslol;50097305]While I think this was entirely justified, I'd like to post the UK video for anyone who hasn't seen the kung fu they're apparently teaching UK cops [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cznNf2LUk74[/media][/QUOTE] I remember when this video was making rounds on reddit and the like, and while it was getting praised by most people who assume it is objectively the best way to deal with the situation, it was getting trashed by most actual Law Enforcement guys from around the world talking about how easily that guy could have had his knife in either of them if that is what he really wanted to do. It might work on a desperate guy who is just trying to get away from some drug charges while he's half stoned, but on someone who actually wants to kill the people coming at him? Not worth the risk, in my opinion.

[QUOTE=GunFox;50098855]Annnd we come back to the same discussion. American cops are different than most of the rest of the world. The US has a low population density. That means a handful of cops generally patrol a much larger area than they would in other places. In practice this means that American patrol officers often respond with little or no backup after traveling a decent distance to respond to the call at all. Patrol officers have to do EVERYTHING.[/QUOTE] so you're saying that even in these 5 situations where a "riot fork" would have helped in the liveleak link about it, they still should have just shot the suspect dead? At least one of the videos lead to a first degree murder charge. please read things and get the full picture before making your post, okay?

[QUOTE=space1;50100799]so you're saying that even in these 5 situations where a "riot fork" would have helped in the liveleak link about it, they still should have just shot the suspect dead? At least one of the videos lead to a first degree murder charge. please read things and get the full picture before making your post, okay?[/QUOTE] Riot Forks aren't really all that useful at deterring people with the intention to kill in a country saturated with guns. They work great in japan or china, for example, but would end up being a liability for officers here however as it's another thing they'd have to carry around that would impede their ability to respond to life threatening situations involving a firearm, which is by far the most threatening and a riot fork wouldn't help in the slightest.

[QUOTE=space1;50100799]so you're saying that even in these 5 situations where a "riot fork" would have helped in the liveleak link about it, they still should have just shot the suspect dead? At least one of the videos lead to a first degree murder charge. please read things and get the full picture before making your post, okay?[/QUOTE] What five situations? Illuminate me. Your reading comprehension needs some work. You don't understand my point at all.

[QUOTE=space1;50100799]so you're saying that even in these 5 situations where a "riot fork" would have helped in the liveleak link about it, they still should have just shot the suspect dead? At least one of the videos lead to a first degree murder charge. please read things and get the full picture before making your post, okay?[/QUOTE] You are the first person in this thread to ever mention riot forks.

[QUOTE=angelangel;50098692]The Japanese Police have the same policy/mentality that you're going on about. They have like these [URL="http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=641_1456164569"]weird long grabbing sticks[/URL] that they use to apprehend people from a safe distance. [editline]9th April 2016[/editline] And anyway the role you describe is generally that of the riot police. In Singapore our riot-police equivalent are regularly called upon to apprehend knife-wielding suspects. [IMG]http://images.singaporeseen.stomp.com.sg/featured/2015/10/police.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] since everyone doesn't click on things and read them, he specifically links to a liveleak with riot forks in them, in said link, it links to 5 cases where people have knives or are unarmed and are shot in a situation where riot forks would have helped save their lives. Gunfox posts not 3 posts later, indirectly replying to this, and I called out the fact that he didn't even click on the link and misinterpreted the whole person's position on the subject.

[QUOTE=proboardslol;50097305]While I think this was entirely justified, I'd like to post the UK video for anyone who hasn't seen the kung fu they're apparently teaching UK cops [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cznNf2LUk74[/media][/QUOTE] people use this video as an argument [I]for[/I] this sort of procedure? fuck, man, i really can't see this as anything but the guy not truly wanting to stab the police officers. if he had the true incentive, it looks like he could have easily done it. don't get me wrong, i am aware of the problem of trigger happy cops in the US (although i think it was entirely justified in the OP), however think about if this situation had involved 1. someone with true murderous intent 2. other innocent bystanders case in point: [video]https://twitter.com/BigTobzsf/status/673239655291187200/video/1[/video]