At this point I want Trump to fuck up as much as possible for the next 4 years so the republican party becomes completely unelectable.
[QUOTE=Jouska;51339151]Oh boo hoo you supported a criminal and hope everybody would too.
Also i didnt vote trump. Funny how everybody assumes that. Keep on antagonizing other voters. Doing that all year worked so well for you guys.
I mean do you think ignorantly calling everybody against clinton a dumb racist nazi would sway them to your position? Thats what i witnessed all year.
Im really disappointed in america, i thought finally people are going to realize how fucked our system is and get rid of these elites when i saw trump and hillary debate on tv.
But nope instead you guys just either shilled for corrupt criminal or a racist and sexist shitposter.
You all got nobody to blame for yourselves taking part in with any of those two parties, you would think after the government shutdown people will realize that it was time to oust these guys.[/QUOTE]
Nobody thinks you vote trump lmfao, you've stated that like 8 times already
Get off your high horse
[QUOTE=Jouska;51339180]Oh no doubt Trump wont be able to do shit. Which is why im laughing at all those people thinking trump supporters were going to go on purge like manhunts if trump lost.
Im just glad clinton lost.
You have to lose fairly to make it worth winning. I wouldnt want my canditate to win with the shit hillary pulled.[/QUOTE]
You have no understanding of the american political system.
[QUOTE=Duck M.;51339051]When my rights are stripped away from me, tell me to "suck it up and deal with it".[/QUOTE]
Your rights have been being stripped away since 9/11. If america cared about protecting their rights they wouldve done a long time ago.
[QUOTE=Jouska;51339190]Your rights have been being stripped away since 9/11. If america cared about protecting their rights they wouldve done a long time ago.[/QUOTE]
So you're supporting a guy projected to be WORSE for rights and civil linerties?
Genius.
[QUOTE=Zephyrs;51339136]You can start by not repeatedly treating the moderates like pig shit and labeling them sociopaths when they say something you don't like.
Something something treat others the way you wish to be treated.[/QUOTE]
Yeah I fucking wish harsh criticism was the worst me, my friends, and the rest of the LGBT community had to worry about.
[QUOTE=Jouska;51339180]Oh no doubt Trump wont be able to do shit. Which is why im laughing at all those people thinking trump supporters were going to go on purge like manhunts if trump lost.
Im just glad clinton lost.
You have to lose fairly to make it worth winning. I wouldnt want my canditate to win with the shit hillary pulled.[/QUOTE]
That's the thing, he's got a republican congress and a republican SCOTUS. The shit he wants done is right in line with their party platform.
[QUOTE=Raidyr;51336663]I mean, was it though? She had the most votes, even before super-delegates. Should the DNC have told Democrats to go fuck themselves and gone with Sanders to win it for the party?
It'd be a popular move on FP and I can see the positives in a utilitarian perspective but that would burn a lot of bridges in the party, especially the old breed.[/QUOTE]
Should have offered him vp + free movement in a mandate to fix democracy and corruption while clinton focused on foreign and other.
A bipresidency so to speak, or guaranteed powerful vp.
Democrats reaped what they have sown by voting hillary.
Ladies and Gentlemen, boy and girls of all ages. The end is nigh, hold your love ones closer. And pray we don't roast in a nuclear fire.
[QUOTE=Bathacker;51339084]Fuck my life how am I even going to face tomorrow. I don't want to go to sleep because I'm waking up to this reality. Over 50% of my country voted for government who is against me as a person.
It's not like I wanted to be gay. I wanted the opposite so much. After being pushed down flights of stairs and beaten bloody in high school I just swore off relationships forever. I went through so much therapy and mental bullshit to eventually come out as okay with who I am, to finally get over the immense amount of self-hatred and depression that drove me to multiple suicide attempts in college.
Now just as I start to feel like things might work out and I might be acceptable in our society, fucking this happens. I have to try to find another place to live because I might not have rights here next year. There are people who view me as less than human and the majority agreed to put them in power.
I seriously just want to crawl in a hole and disappear. I wish this didn't affect me but I seriously cannot help being gay and I can't help sympathizing with my LGBT friends who are also scared. Those people who were already unsafe in their communities now fearing for their lives in the face of a legitimized hate group.
What do we even do? Where do we go? I'm not sure what I can afford and that terrifies me. I sympathize with those people who feel like suicide is an answer because honestly I'm seriously considering the same. I don't want to live in this country anymore. Its people are terrifying.[/QUOTE]
Dude, [I]calm down[/I]. Your rights should be protected if you stand up for it, not leave it. Let out your opinions towards the government, have the LGBT movement come together to protect your rights. I, a Republican, and many others will try to help you and your community.
[QUOTE=Kyle902;51339188]You have no understanding of the american political system.[/QUOTE]
Oh no I understand. That american system you are talking about is fucked and is the reason Trump is in power.
But you would be A-okay with it if hillary wouldve won i bet.
[QUOTE=Jouska;51339151]Oh boo hoo you supported a criminal and hope everybody would too.
Also i didnt vote trump. Funny how everybody assumes that. Keep on antagonizing other voters. Doing that all year worked so well for you guys.
I mean do you think ignorantly calling everybody against clinton a dumb racist nazi would sway them to your position? Thats what i witnessed all year.
Im really disappointed in america, i thought finally people are going to realize how fucked our system is and get rid of these elites when i saw trump and hillary debate on tv.
But nope instead you guys just either shilled for corrupt criminal or a racist and sexist shitposter.
You all got nobody to blame for yourselves taking part in with any of those two parties, you would think after the government shutdown people will realize that it was time to oust these guys.[/QUOTE]
You know how everybody says that everybody else on the other side is completely evil?
Guess what? It's bullshit.
Trump isn't ultra-mega hitler, but Clinton also isn't a secret illuminati member who can rig presidential elections and manipulate the FBI.
It's all bullshit.
Reality is not as interesting at that.
[QUOTE=Zyler;51339137]Okay, I've just read through the entire thread and here's my thoughts.
I've pretty much decided I'm going to be a Social Justice Warrior now. After reading the posts by the people pretty much saying that people being unable to avoid medication they need to live is just 'liberal tears', well that really struck a nerve with me.
You know the people who say "they're both as bad as eachother" when it comes to any argument about any issue that has two supposed "sides"? It's bullshit. One side is always better than the other. The whole "they're both as bad as eachother" line is just an intentional ploy to make people complacent and indifferent to the issues in the world. Fuck being reasonable, there are some things that are actually worth being pissed about.[/QUOTE]
Have fun with that. Just know what you're getting into.
[QUOTE=Jouska;51339190]Your rights have been being stripped away since 9/11. If america cared about protecting their rights they wouldve done a long time ago.[/QUOTE]
That's a good point. There is nothing you could do if Trump appoints his judges. Although the second amendment people, maybe there is. I dunno.
[QUOTE=zenthekiller;51339122]I'm sure this has been said before and I care so little about this election but god damn it feels so good to watch this echo chamber get so upset. The only thing that can top this feeling would be Kanye 2020.[/QUOTE]
If you think SH is an echo chamber you need to go visit /r/the_donald. We're a rainbow in comparison.
[QUOTE=Zyler;51339205]
Reality is not as interesting at that.[/QUOTE]
This is me this entire fucking election cycle.
This "you reap what you sow, dems" argument really kinda sucks because I'm pretty sure 90% of the people on this forum voted bernie. She literally got in through name recognition amongst non super left wing people who pay less attention to politics than anyone else.
[QUOTE=Jouska;51339190]Your rights have been being stripped away since 9/11. If america cared about protecting their rights they wouldve done a long time ago.[/QUOTE]
How did our rights gets stripped away? Who did it? I thought you were saying the president didn't have that much power?
[QUOTE=Kyle902;51339188]You have no understanding of the american political system.[/QUOTE]
Or better, impeached.
I have no love for trump but god damn, hillary was unelectable.
[QUOTE=Kuro.;51339206]Have fun with that. Just know what you're getting into.[/QUOTE]
I'm not being totally serious, sorry if that wasn't clear.
There's no such thing as "Social Justice Warriors" anyway, nor is there such as a thing as "The Alt-Right".
There's also no "Liberals" or "Conservatives" or "Democrats" or "Republicans" or "Socialists" or "Communists" or "Capitalists" or "Libertarians" or etc.
They are all abstractions.
In the end, there are only people.
[QUOTE=zenthekiller;51339122]I'm sure this has been said before and I care so little about this election but god damn it feels so good to watch this echo chamber get so upset. The only thing that can top this feeling would be Kanye 2020.[/QUOTE]
How in the name of Christ is it a echo chamber with as many trumpers as we have
You live in a different reality
[QUOTE=froztshock;51339215]This "you reap what you sow, dems" argument really kinda sucks because I'm pretty sure 90% of the people on this forum voted bernie. She literally got in through name recognition amongst non super left wing people who pay less attention to politics than anyone else.[/QUOTE]
I think we had literally [I]one person[/I] who voted or supported Clinton over Sanders and I haven't seen him post in awhile.
For everyone else it's just preaching to the choir. I voted for Sanders and argued for Sanders before Clinton won.
I wonder how bad proboardslol is doing
[QUOTE=Zyler;51339218]How did our rights gets stripped away? Who did it? I thought you were saying the president didn't have that much power?[/QUOTE]
What is patroit act is 500, what is the NSA.
The obama administration encouraged the same old pay to win politics giving the rich elite control. Now a rich elite is president directly and we are going to suffer because nobody cared about the balances of power.
[QUOTE=PsycheClops;51339201]Dude, [I]calm down[/I]. Your rights should be protected if you stand up for it, not leave it. Let out your opinions towards the government, have the LGBT movement come together to protect your rights. I, a Republican, and many others will try to help you and your community.[/QUOTE]
Cool. Too bad you're not in the majority government who has a goal of removing those rights. They have an objective, and there is no reason for them to listen to anyone. Them or you - as a pro-LGBT republican, you're not treading the party line. You are irrelevant to them and their goals.
If Clinton had gotten the votes of Gary Johnson in some states I think she would've won. I hope he at least got 5%
[QUOTE=Jouska;51339203]Oh no I understand. That american system you are talking about is fucked and is the reason Trump is in power.
But you would be A-okay with it if hillary wouldve won i bet.[/QUOTE]
Yeah I would because there would be no chance of me not being able to afford the medications I need to survive or not being able to marry the wkman I love.
Your understanding of american politics is flawed. Your argument is essentially ad hominem and strawmans.
[QUOTE=Jouska;51339238]What is patroit act is 500, what is the NSA.
The obama administration encouraged the same old pay to win politics giving the rich elite control. Now a rich elite is president directly and we are going to suffer because nobody cared about the balances of power.[/QUOTE]
Didn't those policies come into place under bush?
Does it even matter? It's like you're saying "everyone is evil and things are totally unfixable and yet one side is still better than the other".
If you think things are so terrible then why do you even bother?
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;51339227]How in the name of Christ is it a echo chamber with as many trumpers as we have
You live in a different reality[/QUOTE]
Oh stop bullshiting. SH was an huge anti-trump circlejerk. Anybody even seemingly sounding like he may not be with hillary was accused of being whatever label of the week the media has been using.
so when is HC leaving for Maldives ?
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