Donald Trump's history of anti-Semitic epithets and harassment of women, gay employes
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[QUOTE=Ogopogo;29540278]Um, because he would be the president.....[/QUOTE]
not if he keeps up with that attitude.. that was the point of this thread :|
[editline]1st May 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Zeke129;29540283]Well then I'm going to assume you're a gypsy[/QUOTE]
haha
[QUOTE=DogGunn;29539892]weird, because I do... I'm part of a minority.
and I do, but you need to learn not to let the comments get the better of you.
in a decent enough society, people look past that fact.
as i said, let donald trump say whatever he wants.[/quote]
I also don't care about derogatory terms directed at my race either, but I don't tell people that they're "sensitive" over a term that can be considered offensive.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;29540283]Well then I'm going to assume you're a gypsy[/QUOTE]
If you hit a gypsy on the head and collect it's tears until you have 1 cup full, you get a free wish when you drink them.
Rules:
Cannot bring people back from dead
Cannot [b]make[/b] people fall in love
Cannot wish for more wishes
Cannot wish for Bolshevik revolution.
[editline]1st May 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=DogGunn;29540309]not if he keeps up with that attitude.. that was the point of this thread :|[/QUOTE]
John McCain complained about the "gooks". He almost seriously got elected
[QUOTE=CoolKingKaso;29540333]I also don't care about derogatory terms directed at my race either, but I don't tell people that they're "sensitive" over a term that can be considered offensive.[/QUOTE]
I never suggested that you tell people they're sensitive.. I said people are too sensitive now days.
[QUOTE=Jiyoon;29540346]If you hit a gypsy on the head and collect it's tears until you have 1 cup full, you get a free wish when you drink them.
Rules:
Cannot bring people back from dead
Cannot [b]make[/b] people fall in love
Cannot wish for more wishes
Cannot wish for Bolshevik revolution.
[/QUOTE]
I collect two cups, wish for there to be no rules, then wish for infinite wishes
Tricky gypsies can't outsmart me
[QUOTE=Zeke129;29540378]I collect two cups, wish for there to be no rules, then wish for infinite wishes
Tricky gypsies can't outsmart me[/QUOTE]
Czar secret police kill you. Do not test the state.
[QUOTE=DogGunn;29540375]I never suggested that you tell people they're sensitive.. I said people are too sensitive now days.[/QUOTE]
which is terrible in itself because i doubt you've experienced workplace harassment yourself but you clearly think you're able to just dismiss anyone who does complain about it (and even if you have experienced it that doesn't give you free reign to do so)
[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;29540446]which is terrible in itself because i doubt you've experienced workplace harassment yourself but you clearly think you're able to just dismiss anyone who does complain about it (and even if you have experienced it that doesn't give you free reign to do so)[/QUOTE]
wonderful. the only way i can adequately reply to this is get personal. oh well.
[QUOTE=Jiyoon;29540346]
John McCain complained about the "gooks". He almost seriously got elected[/QUOTE]
Except anti-Viet/Asian racism from Vietnam War veterans is privately more tolerable than anti-Viet/Asian racism from non-veterans, I believe.
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Donald Trump should be called out and actively ridiculed when he insults minority groups such as gays because he contributes to the social ignorance and disdain for them. In most states they can't even marry for Christ's sake, and that's because idiots like him carry prejudice and idiots like DogGunn make it worse by not caring and wishing other people would just "drop it", a sign of ignorance in itself.
[QUOTE=DogGunn;29540526]wonderful. the only way i can adequately reply to this is get personal. oh well.[/QUOTE]
this isn't an issue of making it personal it's an issue of you telling people how to respond to something that you've likely never experienced
[QUOTE=BagMinge104;29540745]Donald Trump should be called out and actively ridiculed when he insults minority groups such as gays because he contributes to the social ignorance and disdain for them. In most states they can't even marry for Christ's sake, and that's because idiots like him carry prejudice and idiots like DogGunn make it worse by not caring and wishing other people would just "drop it", a sign of ignorance in itself.[/QUOTE]
wow.
it's like when kobe bryant called the ref a "fucking faggot".
clearly he was insinuating he didn't accept or like gays, and he definitely didn't want gay marriage.
[editline]1st May 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;29540773]this isn't an issue of making it personal it's an issue of you telling people how to respond to something that you've likely never experienced[/QUOTE]
and as i said, the only way i can respond to such an accusation is by making it personal (as it is something i have experienced...)
[QUOTE=DogGunn;29540832]wow.
it's like when kobe bryant called the ref a "fucking faggot".
clearly he was insinuating he didn't accept or like gays, and he definitely didn't want gay marriage.
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and as i said, the only way i can respond to such an accusation is by making it personal (as it is something i have experienced...)[/QUOTE]
So when I am angry at a ref I have carte blanche to compare him to a minority in a derogatory manner? I can't even begin to describe how hurtful it can be for a derogatory slur towards gays to be in everyday lexicon. The only thing it does is to create a divide between gays and "normal people" and promotes ignorance.
[QUOTE=Dr_Funk;29540683]Except anti-Viet/Asian racism from Vietnam War veterans is privately more tolerable than anti-Viet/Asian racism from non-veterans, I believe.
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Hey hey, good riddance.
[QUOTE=BagMinge104;29541017]So when I am angry at a ref I have carte blanche to compare him to a minority in a derogatory manner?[/QUOTE]
Not at all. But a simple comment made in frustration or something which then people add a whole new not-implied meaning, just to grab attention to them.
[QUOTE=BagMinge104;29541017]I can't even begin to describe how hurtful it can be for a derogatory slur towards gays to be in everyday lexicon. The only thing it does is to create a divide between gays and "normal people" and promotes ignorance.[/QUOTE]
Only because people change the meaning to something hurtful when it was never their intention.
I'm not suggesting people go around calling each other faggots, but to suggest that people do it be hurtful to gays or anything is fallacious. The divide is created by the ones that get hurt by it.
[QUOTE=DogGunn;29541105]Not at all. But you a simple comment made in frustration or something which then people add a whole new not-implied meaning, just to grab attention to them.
Only because people change the meaning to something hurtful when it was never their intention.
I'm not suggesting people go around calling each other faggots, but to suggest that people do it be hurtful to gays or anything is fallacious. The divide is created by the ones that get hurt by it.[/QUOTE]
1. I don't call people niggers or other slurs towards minorities while I am angry at them, why is "gay" or "faggot" any different or more tolerable?
2. People don't always consciously use the word "gay" or "faggot" to hurt them, but to say that it isn't hurtful to gays is flat out wrong. You are part of a minority, yes? What if people used a slur against whatever you are in everyday conversation? It would be at least insulting, if not hurtful. When people compare things to gay people in a negative context, it creates a divide and promotes ignorance.
[QUOTE=DogGunn;29541105]
Only because people change the meaning to something hurtful when it was never their intention.
I'm not suggesting people go around calling each other faggots, but to suggest that people do it be hurtful to gays or anything is fallacious. The divide is created by the ones that get hurt by it.[/QUOTE]
i totally got jew'd last week when buying a car.
ever heard of that term?
Hi I'm DogGunn and I don't care about minorities
[QUOTE=BagMinge104;29541180]1. I don't call people niggers or other slurs towards minorities while I am angry at them, why is "gay" or "faggot" any different or more tolerable?[/quote]
Oops, I didn't mean to say you do it - that you was a typo.
[QUOTE=BagMinge104;29541180]2. People don't always consciously use the word "gay" or "faggot" to hurt them, but to say that it isn't hurtful to gays is flat out wrong. You are part of a minority, yes? What if people used a slur against whatever you are in everyday conversation? It would be at least insulting, if not hurtful. When people compare things to gay people in a negative context, it creates a divide and promotes ignorance.[/QUOTE]
To use a slur with a meaning that could be considered hurtful to a minority, against that minority, that's an issue you need to take up with that person. That's the problem, not the word in general.
I do have slurs yelled out against me depending on where I am. Do I get upset about it? No. I don't let it get to me - if I did, they'd be achieving what they wanted to do.
The word 'faggot' specifically has adopted a new meaning from what it used to entail. The word can now just mean 'asshole', 'douchebag' etc. and in the situation Kobe was fined, that was the meaning. It wasn't designed to be hurtful...
[QUOTE=Sanius;29541286]Hi I'm DogGunn and I don't care about minorities[/QUOTE]
He is one although he doesn't do a good job of representing their rights.
[QUOTE=thisispain;29541256]i totally got jew'd last week when buying a car.
ever heard of that term?[/QUOTE]
Cool.
[QUOTE=DogGunn;29541326]Oops, I didn't mean to say you do it - that you was a typo.
To use a slur with a meaning that could be considered hurtful to a minority, against that minority, that's an issue you need to take up with that person. That's the problem, not the word in general.
I do have slurs yelled out against me depending on where I am. Do I get upset about it? No. I don't let it get to me - if I did, they'd be achieving what they wanted to do.
The word 'faggot' specifically has adopted a new meaning from what it used to entail. The word can now just mean 'asshole', 'douchebag' etc. and in the situation Kobe was fined, that was the meaning. It wasn't designed to be hurtful...[/QUOTE]
1. I never said you did. It was an example.
2. Then why not say "asshole" instead of comparing someone to gays in a negative context which is where the supposed meaning shift stems from.
[QUOTE=thisispain;29541256]i totally got jew'd last week when buying a car.
ever heard of that term?[/QUOTE]
"The car was fucking gay anyway, what a gyp"
[QUOTE=BagMinge104;29541449]2. Then why not say "asshole" instead of comparing someone to gays in a negative context which is where the supposed meaning shift stems from.[/QUOTE]
I agree - if they have to display their anger, there are much better words to use.
The shift in meaning though isn't a result of them necessarily comparing to people who are gay. What about 'douchebag'? We know now that the word is an insult, but are we really comparing them to a douchebag?
[QUOTE=DogGunn;29541503]I agree - if they have to display their anger, there are much better words to use.
The shift in meaning though isn't a result of them necessarily comparing to people who are gay. What about 'douchebag'? We know now that the word is an insult, but are we really comparing them to a douchebag?[/QUOTE]
yes, we are.
[QUOTE=joes33431;29541628]yes, we are.[/QUOTE]
cool then!
[QUOTE=DogGunn;29541503]I agree - if they have to display their anger, there are much better words to use.
The shift in meaning though isn't a result of them necessaries comparing to people who are gay. What about 'douchebag'? We know now that the word is an insult, but are we really comparing them to a douchebag?[/QUOTE]
There are multiple reasons why douchebag went from a device to rinse out a vagina to a jerk that are different than why gay and faggot shifted definitions. Faggot always referred to someone that was deemed below you - in the Victorian era, "faggots" were to collect bundle of sticks to use instead of logs. These kids were often weak, and open to sexual advances from other boys and teachers (schools were gender-specific), which is where the homophobic connotation came from. As gays were not accepted in society, it was insulting to compare someone to one, which is where it became an insult to anyone rather than gay-specific. The reason this term thrives is because homophobia is still very, very prevalent - 50% of Americans do not believe gay marriage should be legal. The term is still very homophobic, and so is it's usage whether consciously or subconsciously.
[QUOTE=DogGunn;29541640]cool then![/QUOTE]
its called a metaphor used as an insult
im starting to think the reason youre so dumb is because youre a minority
maybe if you were white, or christian or straight, or male youd understand
[QUOTE=joes33431;29541693]its called a metaphor used as an insult
im starting to think the reason youre so dumb is because youre a minority
maybe if you were white, or christian or straight, or male youd understand[/QUOTE]
Please be sarcastic.
[QUOTE=joes33431;29541693]its called a metaphor used as an insult
im starting to think the reason youre so dumb is because youre a minority
maybe if you were white, or christian or straight, or male youd understand[/QUOTE]
oh you're the funniest.
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