[QUOTE=OvB;47290307]I never met anyone that took secession as more than just a big inside joke.[/QUOTE]
I didn't think I'd ever meet anyone who genuinely thought President Obama was the worst thing to ever happen to the US ever, but then my grandmother opened her mouth last Christmas. People will surprise and disappoint you no matter how much you hope they'd just please stop.
[QUOTE=OvB;47290307]I never met anyone that took secession as more than just a big inside joke.[/QUOTE]
I've met a few hardcore republicans that have literally preached it in the middle of public places to other people about it. It's weird
[QUOTE=RichyZ;47290211]texas is actually on its way to becoming a blue state
large population centers i.e. dallas and austin are increasingly more liberal as time goes on[/QUOTE]
Once Texas becomes a firm blue state, it'll spell the demise of the Republican party. I give it 15 years.
good
let them leave
we dont want them
I wonder if Texas secessionists actually know they're the laughingstock of the entire United States...
Also, if they're so eager to not be part of the union anymore, why do they keep sending their dumbest and most ignorant residents to run for President?
[QUOTE=dwt110;47290417]good
let them leave
we dont want them[/QUOTE]
I hate that there are people who seriously think this is a good idea and something we can just do and have no consequences, it's just as dumb and poorly thought out as southerners thinking it's a good idea to secede and something they can just do without consequence
[QUOTE=LoganIsAwesome;47290415]Once Texas becomes a firm blue state, it'll spell the demise of the Republican party. I give it 15 years.[/QUOTE]
That's long enough for the next president to be a republican with two terms with a whole GOP Congress
It may be too late.
[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;47290438]I wonder if Texas secessionists actually know they're the laughingstock of the entire United States...
Also, if they're so eager to not be part of the union anymore, why do they keep sending their dumbest and most ignorant residents to run for President?[/QUOTE]they'd brush it off as the people laughing at them are a bucnh of "libo-tards"
Those who refuse to learn from history are bound to be these people
Just a chip for the whole Texas-is-becoming-Blue conversation, if you look further west you'll see that at the same time California is becoming Red. A lot of disaffected social conservatives are getting fed up with essentially ultra-affluent minority-opinion urban centers ruling the state. Even though a lot of people think of California as "Land of the Hippie," that's really a substantive myth, just like imagining that Texas is a rolling deseret full of cowboys.
Furthermore, for either state to make the switch there would have to be a conscious redrawing of the voting districts. Texas's blues will always be under represented because the state is cut up in such a way that if the blues are all tightly concentrated it doesn't matter how [I]many[/I] there are, they don't have enough [I]land.[/I] There would have to be a very real, radical political shift in Texas for the Blues to make headway beyond local government. Antagonistic politics by both sides mean that such a shift is unlikely within the next decade, as both sides will double down on holding what they've got.
[QUOTE=Crazy Ivan;47291619]Just a chip for the whole Texas-is-becoming-Blue conversation, if you look further west you'll see that at the same time California is becoming Red. A lot of disaffected social conservatives are getting fed up with essentially ultra-affluent minority-opinion urban centers ruling the state. Even though a lot of people think of California as "Land of the Hippie," that's really a substantive myth, just like imagining that Texas is a rolling deseret full of cowboys.
Furthermore, for either state to make the switch there would have to be a conscious redrawing of the voting districts. Texas's blues will always be under represented because the state is cut up in such a way that if the blues are all tightly concentrated it doesn't matter how [I]many[/I] there are, they don't have enough [I]land.[/I] There would have to be a very real, radical political shift in Texas for the Blues to make headway beyond local government. Antagonistic politics by both sides mean that such a shift is unlikely within the next decade, as both sides will double down on holding what they've got.[/QUOTE]
Nah, California is as blue as it's going to get. San Diego and small towns in the middle of the state are pretty much the only things becoming republican. In most places you'd probably end up being called an idiot if you're a republican here and probably look at you like you're some alien from another planet if you claim you're one in San Francisco
[QUOTE=Magic Scrumpy;47289889]and to think that theres a group of people that subscribes to this bullshit[/QUOTE]
There are always a group that subscribes to something. Satanist, "Freeman on the land," etc. Mainly these people just want to be "different," but in the end they actually are the same.
Anyway, I've lived in Texas all my life and I've never seen these people. They are probably like the others, making a ton of noise for attention.
Very, very few texans are actually secessionists.
A lot of them might not like Obama or the Democrats but most of them that I've met (since my family is basically all down there) think secession is what breaks countries
Apparently these guys "mint" their own "currency".
Problem is, when [URL="http://texasrepublic.info/economy-coins-and-trade/currency-exchange/"]the head of your national bank uses an AT&T home DSL email address[/URL] for official business, I'm not really lining up to exchange it.
Although if you want to see something really stupid from the sovereignty crowd, check out the Kingdom of Hawaii's absolutely hilarious [URL="http://hrmakahinui.com/transportation/index.php"]letter to the governor[/URL] about their DMV's shitty plates & licenses.
i'm interested in how these guys approach arizona and new mexico who were technically carved off of texas when they were brought into the union, do they want to annex them or invade them (both bringing on the wrath of the entire US military). i mean they can say what they want but these states are independent from texas and its "texican" lifestyle, do they honestly want to invade and take back these "renegade" hostage states
[QUOTE=code_gs;47289918]It's absolutely ridiculous down here: I went to court one time for a speeding ticket, and the first thing the judge said when he entered was, "To all those who are going to claim that they don't follow the traffic laws of the U.S., but instead those of the Republic of Texas, pay your full fee up front right now because you don't have a case."
Rick Perry even said on some news interview that if Obama gets re-elected, he's going to secede from the Union.
Not to mention I see these stickers EVERYWHERE
[img]http://www.libertystickers.com/static/images/Secede.gif[/img][/QUOTE]
I guess they don't want all that military industry and those DoD dollars then.
Annex texas
[QUOTE=Crazy Ivan;47291619]Just a chip for the whole Texas-is-becoming-Blue conversation, if you look further west you'll see that at the same time California is becoming Red. A lot of disaffected social conservatives are getting fed up with essentially ultra-affluent minority-opinion urban centers ruling the state. Even though a lot of people think of California as "Land of the Hippie," that's really a substantive myth, just like imagining that Texas is a rolling deseret full of cowboys.
Furthermore, for either state to make the switch there would have to be a conscious redrawing of the voting districts. Texas's blues will always be under represented because the state is cut up in such a way that if the blues are all tightly concentrated it doesn't matter how [I]many[/I] there are, they don't have enough [I]land.[/I] There would have to be a very real, radical political shift in Texas for the Blues to make headway beyond local government. Antagonistic politics by both sides mean that such a shift is unlikely within the next decade, as both sides will double down on holding what they've got.[/QUOTE]
except the entire southern border of Texas is blue now, and it's growing significantly because of the more liberal-leaning immigrant population and the rapidly-growing hispanic population.
you'd be surprised at how often you see "mexican cowboys" - they own ranches and farms just like the ultra-red obama-hating white guys, but they vote liberal. Texas will be a battleground state within the next two decades, no question. as for gerrymandering, yeah, that'll slow it down, but Texas is at the center of a population shift and no matter how hard they try to convince people, it'll be switching over fairly quickly. My county was fairly conservative during the first Obama election, and during the second one it shifted significantly to the left - still conservative majority, but a much stronger liberal presence.
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