• Woman who sued Donald Trump for child rape breaks her silence today 3pm PST
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[QUOTE=benzi2k7;51298212]why are you talking about bill clinton in a thread about someone talking specifically about donald trump allegedly raping them? does bill clinton existing change the context of the alleged rape?[/QUOTE] No, but it does show how willing you some of you are to setup a double standard for a candidate you don't like.
[QUOTE=Tudd;51298220]I am sure if one of Donald Trump's sons had a substantiated sexual predation history you would just totally ignore that too.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=UnidentifiedFlyingTard;51298184]This still has literally nothing to do with Bill Clinton.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Cructo;51298082]I, too, am okay with slander when its consequences favor my interests[/QUOTE] I think it's okay to be slanderous towards a individual who himself slanders people all the time.
[QUOTE=Tudd;51298227]No, but it does show how willing you some of you are to setup a double standard for a candidate you don't like.[/QUOTE]you're the only person bringing up bill clinton, you're the only person comparing trumps alleged actions to other people like that means anything. one does not negate the other.
[QUOTE=benzi2k7;51298240]you're the only person bringing up bill clinton[/QUOTE] Doesn't invalidate my argument towards double standards.
[QUOTE=Tudd;51298202]Well he isn't confirmed to be a rapist. Also nice try with "knows," it is more like supported, taken advice from, cooperated with, and currently relies on for her political career. [url]http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/03/us/politics/hillary-bill-clinton-women.html[/url] [url]http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2016/02/25/the_trashing_of_bills_accusers_what_did_hillary_do_--_and_why_did_she_do_it_129787.html[/url] [url]http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/11/politics/hillary-clinton-donald-trump-bill-clinton-accusers/[/url] Here are some nice articles on maybe why you shouldn't just jump the gun on Donald Trump simply because you dislike him.[/QUOTE] Hillary doesn't rely on Bill Clinton for her career what are you talking about.
[QUOTE=benzi2k7;51298240]one does not negate the other.[/QUOTE] Nope, but I condone both and don't act like the other side doesn't have filth regarding this topic.
[QUOTE=Cructo;51298214]no? i just believe in innocent until proven guilty people assume it's true because it's trump if she can prove her claims then i'll gladly stop supporting trump the timing is too convenient and the fact that a lot of women came forward without proof does not give this a lot of credibility[/QUOTE]the lawsuit was filed in april 2016, should it have been sooner? what level of abuse toward women is too far seeing as trump has literally said on tape that he sexually assaults women without their consent.
[QUOTE=Lambeth;51298248]Hillary doesn't rely on Bill Clinton for her career what are you talking about.[/QUOTE] Well having his name must help a lot TBH.
Nope [media]https://twitter.com/CJRosenbaum/status/793936843465052160[/media]
[QUOTE=_Axel;51298260]Well having his name must help a lot TBH.[/QUOTE] If name recognition worked that well she should have beat obama the first time she ran.
[QUOTE=Tudd;51298253]Nope, but I condone both and don't act like the other side doesn't have filth regarding this topic.[/QUOTE]no one is acting like the other side doesn't have 'filth', no one was talking about bill clinton until you brought him up because he's not relevant to the conversation. bill clinton being a shitty person has nothing to do with allegations about an event that possibly happened 30+ years ago. there's absolutely no reason for you to bring up clinton other than to distract from the actual topic of an alleged victim coming out against trump.
C'mon, people... Tudd is bringing up Bill Clinton's shit that has plenty of proof behind it, yet you hear nothing about it and it hasn't affected him negatively in the public light at all. Hillary's e-mail scandal even has proof behind it, but nobody seems to give a shit because "Trump is a loudmouth". Everyone on this forum wanted her head when that was first showing up, but since Bernie is gone, it's an immediate u-turn with a lot of the posters here. Bernie reveals he's just as much of a pushover as any other politician, says Hillary's a great choice, and everyone jumps on board without batting an eye. There is zero proof backing the accusations against Trump at the moment, so you shouldn't even lean either way. You watch, you wait, and if there's proof, call him a rapist pig... if there is no proof, then just keep calling him a loudmouth. (For the record, I'm not even voting in this election. I don't like anyone running, and I'm not throwing a vote to someone if I don't believe in them.)
[QUOTE=Lambeth;51298281]If name recognition worked that well she should have beat obama the first time she ran.[/QUOTE] Name helping doesn't mean it trumps everything else.
[QUOTE=Robman8908;51298284]C'mon, people... Tudd is bringing up Bill Clinton's shit that has plenty of proof behind it, yet you hear nothing about it and it hasn't affected him negatively in the public light at all.[/QUOTE] [t]http://i.imgur.com/cMu45YZ.png[/t] [url]https://morningconsult.com/2016/10/25/bill-clinton-isnt-popular-anymore/[/url]
[QUOTE=smurfy;51298299][t]http://i.imgur.com/cMu45YZ.png[/t] [url]https://morningconsult.com/2016/10/25/bill-clinton-isnt-popular-anymore/[/url][/QUOTE] I stand corrected there, I'm just going by the normal hear-say around here. You just don't really hear about it unless you look around online, it seems. Glad about that graph, though.
[QUOTE=Robman8908;51298284]Everyone on this forum wanted her head when that was first showing up, but since Bernie is gone, it's an immediate u-turn with a lot of the posters here.[/QUOTE] If she was trialed earlier, that would have left Bernie as the default Democratic candidate. But since Bernie lost, that only leaves Hillary. As much as many of us hate her, we recognize she's still better than Donald Trump. If Trump wasn't acting like a autocrat with policies that are almost universally terrible, maybe people here would support him over the criminal. That's ignoring all the terrible things he says on a weekly basis, of course.
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;51298361]If she was trialed earlier, that would have left Bernie as the default Democratic candidate. But since Bernie lost, that only leaves Hillary. As much as many of us hate her, we recognize she's still better than Donald Trump. If Trump wasn't acting like a autocrat with policies that are almost universally terrible, maybe people here would support him over the criminal. That's ignoring all the terrible things he says on a weekly basis, of course.[/QUOTE] If it was any regular John Johnson republican running against Hillary, I'd gladly sit this election out.
Innocent until proven guilty. So many women conveniently accusing him of rape after years and decades right before the election, so it seems like Clinton's been throwing money around. The media doesn't care about "innocent until proven guilty" especially when it's about Trump, so this is gonna be the headlines for quite a while anyway.
[QUOTE=Paramud;51298379]If it was any regular John Johnson republican running against Hillary, I'd gladly sit this election out.[/QUOTE] I'd probably encourage people to vote Republican then, and vote Democrat for Congress. But it's Trump, early on he was a joke, after the races he had the opportunity to actually be a good candidate. Instead, he opted to be the one fucking person that could lose to a candidate that's been under FBI investigation twice during her campaign.
[QUOTE=UnidentifiedFlyingTard;51298163]People like you are why rape victims don't come forward about this shit.[/QUOTE] People like you are why innocent lives are ruined. Innocent until proven guilty, or do you think people should be labelled a disgrace after ALLEGED assaults when theres opportunistic timing?
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;51298361]If she was trialed earlier, that would have left Bernie as the default Democratic candidate. But since Bernie lost, that only leaves Hillary. As much as many of us hate her, we recognize she's still better than Donald Trump. If Trump wasn't acting like a autocrat with policies that are almost universally terrible, maybe people here would support him over the criminal. That's ignoring all the terrible things he says on a weekly basis, of course.[/QUOTE] I don't know, that just seems to be the difference between them, though... Trump [I]says[/I] crazy shit. Hillary [I]does[/I] crazy shit.
[QUOTE=Orkel;51298396]Innocent until proven guilty. So many women conveniently accusing him of rape after years and decades right before the election, so it seems like Clinton's been throwing money around. The media doesn't care about "innocent until proven guilty" especially when it's about Trump, so this is gonna be the headlines for quite a while anyway.[/QUOTE] What's more plausible, that clinton has been paying all of these women to come forward, or that he might actually have assaulted a women?
[QUOTE=Lambeth;51298440]What's more plausible, that clinton has been paying all of these women to come forward, or that he might actually have assaulted a women?[/QUOTE] That is up to the court to decide, not an angry mob.
[QUOTE=Orkel;51298396]Innocent until proven guilty. So many women conveniently accusing him of rape after years and decades right before the election, so it seems like Clinton's been throwing money around. The media doesn't care about "innocent until proven guilty" especially when it's about Trump, so this is gonna be the headlines for quite a while anyway.[/QUOTE] "Innocent until proven guilty" is a concept in the judicial system, not necessarily something you have to hold on to for dear life in any context. I don't know if Donald Trump has run around raping people - I wouldn't put it past his character to sexually harass people, but that isn't rape - but I don't, and neither does anyone else, have to pretend that I won't judge people before they get their sentence. Also, on a side note, don't you find it just a tad ironic to say "innocent until proven guilty!", and then in the same proverbial breath accuse Hillary of paying women to pose fake rape accusations?
[QUOTE=Lambeth;51298440]What's more plausible, that clinton has been paying all of these women to come forward, or that he might actually have assaulted a women?[/QUOTE] Judging from Clinton's track record, I honestly wouldn't be surprised.
[QUOTE=Robman8908;51298438]I don't know, that just seems to be the difference between them, though... Trump [I]says[/I] crazy shit. Hillary [I]does[/I] crazy shit.[/QUOTE] The second one is debatable, but trump hasn't had the opportunity to do anything crazy because he has [I]NEVER HELD A SINGLE PUBLIC OFFICE OR WORKED FOR GOVERNMENT [U]EVER[/U][/I] He is so woefully unprepared to perform the duties of the president that it's shocking to me that he's conned [I]this[/I] many people
[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;51298447] Also, on a side note, don't you find it just a tad ironic to say "innocent until proven guilty!", and then in the same proverbial breath accuse Hillary of paying women to pose fake rape accusations?[/QUOTE] Yea that part turned out sounding bad, but hopefully you get my point still. Trump is a massive asshole but I personally have a hard time believing such unbelievably conveniently timed accusations. Thus I won't call him a rapist until he gets slammed in court, if he does.
[QUOTE=Radical_ed;51298463]The second one is debatable, but trump hasn't had the opportunity to do anything crazy because he has [I]NEVER HELD A SINGLE PUBLIC OFFICE OR WORKED FOR GOVERNMENT [U]EVER[/U][/I][/QUOTE] From the way this country has been with politicians in recent years, I really wouldn't care if someone got in with no political record. The way I see it, if Hillary gets in, shady shit keeps going on in the background and nobody pays attention... if Trump gets in, shit hits the fan like a bull in a china shop and average citizens finally band together asking what the fuck is going on in Washington. But, still, I'm not voting for either one, because I don't believe in either's abilities to be a decent leader. (Also not voting for Gary "TPP-friendly" Johnson)
And nearly 60 million people are ready to see him in power. Your country has a lot of sick people it's depressing.
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