• Woman who sued Donald Trump for child rape breaks her silence today 3pm PST
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[QUOTE=ZachPL;51297575]Huffington post just posted an article on why there hasnt been much coverage [url]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-rape-case_us_581a31a5e4b0c43e6c1d9834?h2bhwth1ccjgzxgvi[/url] main reason being the accuser was anonymous[/QUOTE] Wait a minute, wasn't this case thrown out before in California because the publicist for the girl is [URL="https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jul/07/donald-trump-sexual-assault-lawsuits-norm-lubow"]Norm Taylor, a well-known hoaxer who had been talking absolute bullshit about other cases, such as in the O.J Simpson case and Kurt Cobain case[/URL]? Other articles, even in The Guardian mentioned that he was looking to sell the tape of the deed for one million dollars to whatever media outlet was willing to pay him. That isn't just smelling fishy. That's smells more than a septic tank in India. Because apparently, a rather well-known Washington DC lawyer, Ted Frank, has said a bit about the case yesterday, and said that [URL="https://twitter.com/tedfrank/status/793620065472184321"]this case had been filed before in California, and was thrown out there, ''Jane Doe'' had been found out that she had given a false address. The second case, filed in New York, got thrown out too because ''Jane Doe'' never arrived at a scheduled 9 September Court Meeting. Evenmore, they haven't even officially filed a case against Trump yet, not now, and not in the other two cases that were thrown out of the same person.[/URL] Excuse me if I sound a bit harsh, but I've seen it happen before with the media in my country, that an anti-establishment candidate gets accused of rape charges which ended up being as fabricated as it could be. The case got thrown out of court nigh instantly. Didn't stop some people for thinking that said candidate still did it. [QUOTE=smurfy;51298270]Nope [media]https://twitter.com/CJRosenbaum/status/793936843465052160[/media][/QUOTE] Welp, that's the third time she didn't show up. Not once has ''Jane Doe'' actually appeared in court. So either Bloom shows some real evidence that the woman actually exists, or it is yet another desperate political slanderjob. Trump might say very dirty things in private, but that doesn't mean that Trump is instantly guilty of every flimsy rape claim against him. 'Innocent until proven guilty' is how the western law operates after all. And so far, the accusing party isn't showing any hard evidence at all.
[QUOTE=Robman8908;51298438]I don't know, that just seems to be the difference between them, though... Trump [I]says[/I] crazy shit. Hillary [I]does[/I] crazy shit.[/QUOTE] Trump has formed an economic plan so bad that over 300 economists have told people not to vote for him. Building on that, he's threatened to start trade wars with anyone he decides is "getting a better deal" than us. He once suggested we should default on the deficit, an idea that could completely shatter investor confidence in the United States and will cause a recession at best. Trump promised Pence the strongest VP in history, and Pence's views on LGBT people will set civil rights back at least a decade if not more. Pence believes that LGBT discrimination should be legal and conversion camps should be established for LGBT. Trump's insistence that Global Warming doesn't exist and his promises to revert all progress we've made to averting it should be alarming to anyone who gives the slightest fuck about the future of this planet. Even China has told him that's a bad idea, they know this because their people have to wear smog masks in their cities. His military plans are effectively 'bomb the crap out of everything without warning', he even proposed we hunt down and murder civilians to intimidate our enemies. He also doesn't seem to care much for NATO or Europe in general, which is worrying to people under the threat of Russian invasion.
[QUOTE=Orkel;51298446]That is up to the court to decide, not an angry mob.[/QUOTE] The court of public opinion doesn't give a shit. People think Hillary should be in jail despite never being charged with a crime.
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;51298495]Trump has formed an economic plan so bad that over 300 economists have told people not to vote for him. Building on that, he's threatened to start trade wars with anyone he decides is "getting a better deal" than us. He once suggested we should default on the deficit, an idea that could completely shatter investor confidence in the United States and will cause a recession at best. Trump promised Pence the strongest VP in history, and Pence's views on LGBT people will set civil rights back at least a decade if not more. Pence believes that LGBT discrimination should be legal and conversion camps should be established for LGBT. Trump's insistence that Global Warming doesn't exist and his promises to revert all progress we've made to averting it should be alarming to anyone who gives the slightest fuck about the future of this planet. Even China has told him that's a bad idea, they know this because their people have to wear smog masks in their cities. His military plans are effectively 'bomb the crap out of everything without warning', he even proposed we hunt down and murder civilians to intimidate our enemies. He also doesn't seem to care much for NATO or Europe in general, which is worrying to people under the threat of Russian invasion.[/QUOTE] You really think every single little thing Trump or Pence says is going to just magically happen? How many presidents have we had that have actually stuck to their word on even the majority of their plans/ideas? Not to mention, this isn't a dictatorship, if Trump and Pence win the election, they aren't going to immediately ban the gays, single-handedly crash the economy, and grab pussies nationwide just because things were said during their campaign. How many times do we have to go through elections before people realize politicians are just full of shit and can't ever stick to their word?
[QUOTE=Orkel;51298446]That is up to the court to decide, not an angry mob.[/QUOTE] The question everyone should ask themselves before assuming the Clinton campaign paid all these people to falsely accuse Trump of rape is "how many did they ask, how many said "No, are you insane"?, and how many of those then promptly contacted journalists about their experience?". Unless Clinton can somehow spot who will definitely say yes no matter what, chances are you would have somebody going to the press, the police, whatever. Apparently not. Maybe these are all false accusations, but chances are they were at least made on their own initiative.
[QUOTE=Robman8908;51298515]You really think every single little thing Trump or Pence says is going to just magically happen?[/QUOTE] This is an extremely dangerous mindset. "Trump presidency won't be bad because he's just lying about everything he's ever said." How the hell can you think that way? That attitude will destroy us all. We're electing the single-most powerful position in the country. You shouldn't think of it so lightly.
[QUOTE=Robman8908;51298515]You really think every single little thing Trump or Pence says is going to just magically happen? How many presidents have we had that have actually stuck to their word on even the majority of their plans/ideas? Not to mention, this isn't a dictatorship,[B] if Trump and Pence win the election, they aren't going to immediately ban the gays, single-handedly crash the economy, and grab pussies nationwide just because things were said during their campaign. [/B] How many times do we have to go through elections before people realize politicians are just full of shit and can't ever stick to their word?[/QUOTE] why do you guys keep doing this every time someone brings up criticisms of Trump/Pence you don't talk about those but instead tackle an argument that you just made up yourself about grabbing pussies and banning the gays. he didn't say Trump/Pence were going to do those things, just that they seem to support shady shit.
[QUOTE=Robman8908;51298438]I don't know, that just seems to be the difference between them, though... Trump [I]says[/I] crazy shit. Hillary [I]does[/I] crazy shit.[/QUOTE] I really, [i]really[/i] wish these kind of arguments would go away. You can just ignore the pro-Trump trolls but it worries me when I hear people in between hold Trump to such a devastatingly low standard compared to Clinton. Trump doesn't get a free pass just because he's a private citizen, if there's a big difference between the two it's that Trump is bad because of shit that he's [i]promising[/i] to do in his platform and as I've said many times before [u]party platform is historically a good way to judge a candidate's actions in office.[/u] And this is of course ignoring his history of discrimination in his businesses and multiple instances of his company trying to weasel their way out of lawsuits by stalling prosecutors and destroying documents.
[QUOTE=Raidyr;51298579]why do you guys keep doing this every time someone brings up criticisms of Trump/Pence you don't talk about those but instead tackle an argument that you just made up yourself about grabbing pussies and banning the gays. he didn't say Trump/Pence were going to do those things, just that they seem to support shady shit.[/QUOTE] I said that's not what's going to happen, because his post read in the way of "omg this will happen bc they said it guys". It's not hard to understand, friend.
[QUOTE=Robman8908;51298438]I don't know, that just seems to be the difference between them, though... Trump [I]says[/I] crazy shit. Hillary [I]does[/I] crazy shit.[/QUOTE] Trump openly bragged about paying off politicians to coerce them into doing favours for himself during the Republican Primary debates, I would classify that as "crazy shit". Trump has done crazy shit his entire life. Attacking people who have genuinely done little to actually provoke him, cheated and swindled his way into an indeterminate fortune (nobody actually knows his exact worth because he makes the numbers up based on his feelings, somehow this works). The difference between Trump tier crazy shit and Clinton tier crazy shit is pretty fucking huge. Trump has done nothing to show his crazy shit wont be for anything but his benefit, as long as he comes out on top and with all your money he's content. Clinton had an email server that she probably shouldn't have had, that so far hasn't actually been implicated in any proper breaches and happened to know people in the DNC (shocker, considering they are part of the same party) who were more than happy to fuck with Sanders. One of those is inherently more destructive, narcissistic, childish and generally repugnant to put up with. Hint: it's the one who's never been in any form of office before.
The source is perpetually down for me. Is this the same person who was connected with the former Jerry Springer producer, or was that a separate claim?
[QUOTE=King Tiger;51298637]The source is perpetually down for me. Is this the same person who was connected with the former Jerry Springer producer, or was that a separate claim?[/QUOTE] Same man I believe
[QUOTE=TheKritter71;51298640]Same man I believe[/QUOTE] If that's true then I am pretty confident that the claim is a complete fabrication. The guy is a hoax artist.
[QUOTE=Robman8908;51298623]I said that's not what's going to happen, because his post read in the way of "omg this will happen bc they said it guys". It's not hard to understand, friend.[/QUOTE] It didn't read that way at all you are literally just putting words in his mouth because you are uninterested or incapable of rebutting what he actually said. If the point of your post is to just say that politicians lie (conveniently tho Trump/Pence only lie on Bad Things, and Clinton lies about Good Things) then whatever, shitpost away, I just don't see the point in being so disingenuous.
[QUOTE=King Tiger;51298645]If that's true then I am pretty confident that the claim is a complete fabrication. The guy is a hoax artist.[/QUOTE] The timing couldn't be any more typical. Just another slanderjob in my case
[QUOTE=King Tiger;51298637]The source is perpetually down for me. Is this the same person who was connected with the former Jerry Springer producer, or was that a separate claim?[/QUOTE] Same man. That claim was found to be so flimsy a few months ago, that even fucking Jezebel/Gawker Media called openly bullshit on that one, that was how obliviously fabricated the claim was. The only outlet who is taking this hoax seriously, is the Huffington Post, a failing news outlet whose ''journalists'' seem to be constantly triggered by Trump, remember the headlines during the primaries, good lord, they went full butthurt Tumblrina mode everytime Trump won in the primaries. That rag has now officially less journalistic integrity than fucking GAWKER MEDIA at this point, that is what a sham of a news outlet it has become.
[QUOTE=Raidyr;51298655]It didn't read that way at all you are literally just putting words in his mouth because you are uninterested or incapable of rebutting what he actually said. If the point of your post is to just say that politicians lie (conveniently tho Trump/Pence only lie on Bad Things, and Clinton lies about Good Things) then whatever, shitpost away, I just don't see the point in being so disingenuous.[/QUOTE] Not really shitposting, there's already plenty of that in this thread already. Trying to voice my opinion in some way, but I guess there's no real reason to argue anymore [for me] since I'll just be bombarded and civil conversations can't be had when it comes to this topic. And once again, for the record, I'm not voting for either one.
[QUOTE=Robman8908;51298690]Not really shitposting, there's already plenty of that in this thread already. Trying to voice my opinion in some way, but I guess there's no real reason to argue anymore [for me] since I'll just be bombarded and civil conversations can't be had when it comes to this topic. And once again, for the record, I'm not voting for either one.[/QUOTE] I'm being plenty civil, I just don't understand why you would read someones post then post an argument that you made to call them wrong when you never really replied to their argument in the first place. Especially when the end goal is to just say politicians lie.
[QUOTE=OneFourth;51297643]what a courageous time to break the silence :)[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=smurfy;51298270]Nope [media]https://twitter.com/CJRosenbaum/status/793936843465052160[/media][/QUOTE] oh no :(
[QUOTE=Tudd;51298246]Doesn't invalidate my argument towards double standards.[/QUOTE] Wellp, that settles it. You've made up my mind. In light of this compelling argument and evidence you've presented, I can say I will not be voting for Bill this election cycle.
[QUOTE=Zero-Point;51299835]Wellp, that settles it. You've made up my mind. In light of this compelling argument and evidence you've presented, I can say I will not be voting for Bill this election cycle.[/QUOTE] Hope you feel good voting for his enabler.
[QUOTE=Orkel;51298481]Yea that part turned out sounding bad, but hopefully you get my point still. Trump is a massive asshole but I personally have a hard time believing such unbelievably conveniently timed accusations. Thus I won't call him a rapist until he gets slammed in court, if he does.[/QUOTE] Normally I would agree, but that whole recording being what basically amounts to an admission of guilt doesn't make it seem so conveniently timed either, as mentioned previously. [editline]2nd November 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Tudd;51299856]Hope you feel good voting for his enabler.[/QUOTE] Not voting for either one of them. I personally feel that I cannot, in good conscience, vote for either of them. Trump has boasted about sexual assault, has poor plans, is a narcissistic chauvinist who will gladly kiss the ass of anyone that can get him to the top (as shown with the positions he offered to his former opponents, whom he belittled fiercely during the primaries, and also his change of heart towards Clinton as a result of his campaign), and has attributes that I do not feel are qualifications for what is essentially the face of America to the rest of the world. He has blatantly lied about many things, even stupid non-consequential things, which can be confirmed by simple fact that there are freely available recordings of him saying these things (support for Iraq war, not sniffling during debate (seriously? The guy won't even admit to sniffling when it was not only caught on tape, but broadcasted and witnessed live by millions across the globe? What other shit will he refuse to own up to?), etc.). His behavior throughout the election cycle can best be described as juvenile, self-important, and self-serving. He has openly disrespected veterans for completely asinine reasons, which does not sit well with me considering my family's history of serving in the armed forces (great-great grandfather was a Dough Boy, many great-uncles served in the Pacific theater and, if I remember correctly, didn't make it back, a grandfather in Korea who served as a fire-fighter for the Air Force, another grandfather who served as a radio operator in the Navy during the Korean War, [I]another[/I] grandfather who served in Vietnam, and a brother-in-law who served in Iraq and Afghanistan). Trump has proven that he only respects those who he can use to move up the social ladder. Now, for Hillary. Mostly, the fact that she even went through the effort to secure-wipe her server's drives before the investigation throws up a caution flag for me. I'm also not fond of how hard-core she started parroting Bernie as he transitioned from "Bernie who?" to "Holy shit this old man is neck-and-neck with Clinton in many places". Not a fan of professional waffling. As a result, I cannot in good conscience vote for either of them, though if I absolutely, positively had to choose, I'd have to go with Hillary. But as it stands, I won't be casting a vote for president this election cycle, but I will be voting for Congressional seats.
[QUOTE=Tudd;51297974]Don't forget 30 years after it allegedly happen in the first case and on the same day as a big wikileaks dump.[/QUOTE] There has been a "big wikileaks dump" like every week now. That's meaningless to the timing. The real reason for the timing is because Donald was leaked bragging about touching women.
[QUOTE=Zero-Point;51299859]Normally I would agree, but that whole recording being what basically amounts to an admission of guilt doesn't make it seem so conveniently timed either, as mentioned previously. [editline]2nd November 2016[/editline] Not voting for either one of them. I personally feel that I cannot, in good conscience, vote for either of them. Trump has boasted about sexual assault, has poor plans, is a narcissistic chauvinist who will gladly kiss the ass of anyone that can get him to the top (as shown with the positions he offered to his former opponents, whom he belittled fiercely during the primaries, and also his change of heart towards Clinton as a result of his campaign), and has attributes that I do not feel are qualifications for what is essentially the face of America to the rest of the world. He has blatantly lied about many things, even stupid non-consequential things, which can be confirmed by simple fact that there are freely available recordings of him saying these things (support for Iraq war, not sniffling during debate (seriously? The guy won't even admit to sniffling when it was not only caught on tape, but broadcasted and witnessed live by millions across the globe? What other shit will he refuse to own up to?), etc.). His behavior throughout the election cycle can best be described as juvenile, self-important, and self-serving. He has openly disrespected veterans for completely asinine reasons, which does not sit well with me considering my family's history of serving in the armed forces (great-great grandfather was a Dough Boy, many great-uncles served in the Pacific theater and, if I remember correctly, didn't make it back, a grandfather in Korea who served as a fire-fighter for the Air Force, another grandfather who served as a radio operator in the Navy during the Korean War, [I]another[/I] grandfather who served in Vietnam, and a brother-in-law who served in Iraq and Afghanistan). Trump has proven that he only respects those who he can use to move up the social ladder. Now, for Hillary. Mostly, the fact that she even went through the effort to secure-wipe her server's drives before the investigation throws up a caution flag for me. I'm also not fond of how hard-core she started parroting Bernie as he transitioned from "Bernie who?" to "Holy shit this old man is neck-and-neck with Clinton in many places". Not a fan of professional waffling. As a result, I cannot in good conscience vote for either of them, though if I absolutely, positively had to choose, I'd have to go with Hillary. But as it stands, I won't be casting a vote for president this election cycle, but I will be voting for Congressional seats.[/QUOTE] At this point, thats the most important thing now is getting Congress under control. Getting a Congress that stops him from passing his shitty policies is the best safety net we got from avoiding a disastrous presidency of the oversized oompa loompa
[QUOTE=Deathtrooper2;51300262]At this point, thats the most important thing now is getting Congress under control. Getting a Congress that stops him from passing his shitty policies is the best safety net we got from avoiding a disastrous presidency of the oversized oompa loompa[/QUOTE] We'd still have to deal with however poorly he may handle the more important jobs of the presidency, which includes diplomacy and foreign relations, as well as being commander-in-chief. As I said in that blob of text, I haven't seen much evidence that he is suited for these roles based on his behavior thus-far. Poor foreign relations can result in economic instability at home. [editline]2nd November 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;51300211]There has been a "big wikileaks dump" like every week now. That's meaningless to the timing. The real reason for the timing is because Donald was leaked bragging about touching women.[/QUOTE] THIS. Holy shit it's unbelievable how many people don't acknowledge this.
[QUOTE=Jarokwa;51298067]hey, if it works and trump gets less votes because of it, i'm glad.[/QUOTE] [I]false rape accusations are okay when it's against someone i disagree with!!![/I] what the actual fuck?
[QUOTE=Tudd;51299856]Hope you feel good voting for his enabler.[/QUOTE] Wasn't there a thread a week back or so where you were telling someone to not intimidate others for their choices, or what?
On another note, didn't of Trump's ex-wives accuse him of marital rape or something like that?
[QUOTE=GordonZombie;51300688]On another note, didn't of Trump's ex-wives accuse him of marital rape or something like that?[/QUOTE] I'm sure by this point Trump has been accused of anything sex-related, like for example months ago he raped my dog too.
[QUOTE=Lambeth;51297940] [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/Rq5EYsD.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] this has to be the most sexist thing I've seen in a while Unless I'm somehow just not getting it :v:
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