Wolfenstein: The New Order Will Be "Geo-Locked" To Conform With German Law

[Pantz Master]

How about you actually scientifically study the effects of Nazi symbolism before you ban it? Oh wait that would actually be a good application of government funds...

[swebonny]

[B]卐[/B]Germans, you jelly?[B]卐[/B]

[Durrsly]

[QUOTE=Niklas;44735639]Changing the entire story is also nonsense, instead of germany taking over the world it is some sort of cult, getting rid of the symbols would have been enough. Instead they remade most of the dialoge to have no context to the original story.[/QUOTE]

They could of did what the SNES port of Wolf3D hod done nearly 20 years ago. It renamed the Nazis to the "Master State", and if Hitler was mentioned, renamed him to "Staatmeister".

I hate censorship too but changing the story to nonsense in a story heavy game is just stupid.

[FunnyGamer]

[QUOTE=Teddybeer;44736353]Every German that sees this post will get arrested :tinfoil:.[/QUOTE]

Fool! After seeing the swastika, their latent ubermench genes have awakened!

[uber.]

Welcome to Germany. God forbid you see any of them nasty Hakenkreuze in mein video games, but hey, let's go ahead and celebrate the 5th anniversary of the Holocaust Memorial in Berlin. Because that's totally something to celebrate.

[ZyreHD]

They are alright with showing historical footage or movies with the Nazi symbol in it but not okay when it appears in a game?

One of the reasons I despise Germany and that's coming from a Dutch.

[Niklasgunner]

[QUOTE=ZyreHD;44736815]They are alright with showing historical footage or movies with the Nazi symbol in it but not okay when it appears in a game?

One of the reasons I despise Germany and that's coming from a Dutch.[/QUOTE]
That is because swastikas can not be shown in public unless for artistic, comedic or educational purpose. Even though our rating board has now acknowledged games as possibly being artistic our censorship board has different views.
Alot of it though is self censorship. The uncensored version of South Park: The Stick Of Truth was not banned even if it had alot of nazi imagery.

[RaikohZX]

Why do people keep saying Bethesda and not, y'know ZeniMax Studios, who own Bethesda and ID Software? They're the ones that handle publishing, executive meddling or so forth with the two dev's games.

[FFStudios]

[QUOTE=Pantz Master;44735960]How about you actually scientifically study the effects of Nazi symbolism before you ban it? Oh wait that would actually be a good application of government funds...[/QUOTE]

if your flagdog is correct in where you live then i don't think you've really got shit to say about how germany spends their government funds because they're a hell of a lot better off than we are lol

[Rocâ„¢]

[QUOTE=Fatfatfatty;44732381]What is germany afraid of will happen anyway? Someone sees the swastika and they suddenly want to become a nazi? or that the display of the swastika will cause the neo-nazis to get a morale boost and suddenly start an uprising to turn germany back into nazi germany?[/QUOTE]
Aren't you essentially killing nazis in it?
By that logic, it should do the opposite, no?

[proboardslol]

Germany censored valve, too. In the german version of HL1, the scientists sit down and shake their heads for a death animation. In HL2 as well, the blood is simply changed to a grey color. Cause that makes sense.

[Saiko]

[QUOTE=Tamschi;44735614]If it has swastikas plastered all over it? At the very least they wouldn't be able to sell it openly.

No idea where the whole "nazi insignia in games are absolutely forbidden" stuff comes from, outside of video games it's comparatively reasonable though.

I [B]really[/B] doubt they'd have to region-lock it to comply with German law though.[/QUOTE]

I wish I could rate you bad reading but I gave you a tool instead.
It comes from a court decision made because of the original Wolfenstein that came out in 1981.
They came to the conclusion that this video game is not to be considered art and therefore no nazi symbolism is allowed (because it could be used as a form of propaganda).
As a german and as a possible Wolfenstein fan in a Wolfenstein thread I would have expected you to already know this or at least read the thread.

[Tamschi]

[QUOTE=The Saiko;44740807]I wish I could rate you bad reading but I gave you a tool instead.
It comes from a court decision made because of the original Wolfenstein that came out in 1981.
They came to the conclusion that this video game is not to be considered art and therefore no nazi symbolism is allowed (because it could be used as a form of propaganda).
As a german and as a possible Wolfenstein fan in a Wolfenstein thread I would have expected you to already know this or at least read the thread.[/QUOTE]

Ah, sorry. I think I skipped over it accidentally.

German yes, Wolfenstein fan no. I'm a bit too young for the game (and also generally don't enjoy shooters that much).

Thanks for pointing this out, it would be interesting to see if there's now actually a law for it that explicitly bans it in games or if it's just that one precedent.
(For those from the US/other places with a similar court system: Previous decisions are not as important here, so unless something is written clearly in law it's still a bit shaky.)

[Niklasgunner]

[QUOTE=proboardslol;44740789]Germany censored valve, too. In the german version of HL1, the scientists sit down and shake their heads for a death animation. In HL2 as well, the blood is simply changed to a grey color. Cause that makes sense.[/QUOTE]
That was many years ago though, very few violent games get banned today. Gore is allowed depending on context.