Mysterious submarine spotted in Swedish waters, Swedish Navy is in full alert - Polidicks

[QUOTE=shian;32321470]Isn't this the same as the russian bombers flying over country's airspace?[/QUOTE]No.

[QUOTE=SpaceGhost;32319880][url]http://www.resonancepub.com/images/stealth_ship.gif[/url] this is the us's stealth ships, their are more than one.[/QUOTE] That thing looks like as if a B2 just crashed into the ocean

[QUOTE=Mr.T;32320183]That's just experimental. Also, my 47 year old step brother was on the same ship that captured the soviet submarine prisoners in the 80s. In fact, he was the one guarding the captain of that submarine.[/QUOTE] Why don't I believe you?

[QUOTE=Profanwolf;32321614]Why don't I believe you?[/QUOTE]Something tells me you have trust issues.

[QUOTE=faze;32321575]No.[/QUOTE] Well, they are secretly entering without permissions.

[QUOTE=shian;32321657]Well, they are secretly entering without permissions.[/QUOTE]Maritime laws are different.

There is a ongoing exercise between several countries closeby, users on a swedish forum think that it's likely that the suspected submarine was checking the excercise. [editline]16th September 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=GunFox;32318849]They are probably shadowing your vessels to train crewmen. Sweden is probably a good target of such activities because you are not likely to take any sort of action even if you do identify the vessels as being Russian/Chinese/whatever. American subs do the same thing. Often to just about any ship that enters their patrol zone. It isn't a hostile action, it is just them dicking around to train.[/QUOTE] [editline]16th September 2011[/editline] Basically what GunFox said.

[QUOTE=Mr.T;32319422][img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2b/K32_HMS_Helsingborg_Anchored-of-Gotska-Sandoen_cropped.jpg[/img] Meet the Visby class corvettes. The only active, fully stealth ship in the world. Problem?[/QUOTE] I don't see anything in the picture except for water?

[QUOTE=shian;32321657]Well, they are secretly entering without permissions.[/QUOTE] Strategic bombers flying into a nation's airspace is a throwback to the early days of the cold war. Prior to the invention of long range ballistic missiles, strategic bombers were the preferred method of nuclear warhead delivery on a large scale. Guided missile technology was in its infancy at this point, so bombs were the order of the day and massive wings of strategic bombers were the delivery mechanism. (Side note: The US Air Force recognized that a giant wing of soviet bombers would be extremely difficult to shoot down. Despite having jets, the cannons on said jets were the only reliable means of shooting down enemy aircraft. Missiles were simply too unreliable and rockets were too inaccurate. Conventional rockets were too inaccurate. NUCLEAR rockets on the other hand didn't need to be accurate! So the US developed the AIR-2 Genie nuclear rocket. A soviet bomber wing was to be met with a volley of these badasses and nuked out of the sky.) While technology has moved forward from this point, the image of strategic bombers coming to ruin your shit has stuck with the entire world. As such, any time Russia wants to be a dick, it sends a bear bomber over someone's air space and forces the country to scramble fighters to escort it back out. They had stopped doing it for a few decades, but recently have taken up the hobby again. MEANWHILE nuclear ballistic submarines have no need to be anywhere near your coast to ruin your shit. So them showing up in something like a harbor, or shadowing one of your vessels, isn't likely to be a problem. When it comes to real threats, its the sub you DON'T see that is 1,000 miles away, that is the real problem.

[QUOTE=GunFox;32321762]Strategic bombers flying into a nation's airspace is a throwback to the early days of the cold war. Prior to the invention of long range ballistic missiles, strategic bombers were the preferred method of nuclear warhead delivery on a large scale. Guided missile technology was in its infancy at this point, so bombs were the order of the day and massive wings of strategic bombers were the delivery mechanism. (Side note: The US Air Force recognized that a giant wing of soviet bombers would be extremely difficult to shoot down. Despite having jets, the cannons on said jets were the only reliable means of shooting down enemy aircraft. Missiles were simply too unreliable and rockets were too inaccurate. Conventional rockets were too inaccurate. NUCLEAR rockets on the other hand didn't need to be accurate! So the US developed the AIR-2 Genie nuclear rocket. A soviet bomber wing was to be met with a volley of these badasses and nuked out of the sky.) While technology has moved forward from this point, the image of strategic bombers coming to ruin your shit has stuck with the entire world. As such, any time Russia wants to be a dick, it sends a bear bomber over someone's air space and forces the country to scramble fighters to escort it back out. They had stopped doing it for a few decades, but recently have taken up the hobby again.[/QUOTE]Yeah people are starting to do that again, but it's all dick waving.

Funky pattern by a German and Polish military ship outside Göteborg. [img]http://laddauppbilder.se/?di=513161594415[/img] [img]http://laddauppbilder.se/?di=913161593586[/img] Pictures are from a few hours ago.

[QUOTE=GunFox;32321762]Strategic bombers flying into a nation's airspace is a throwback to the early days of the cold war. Prior to the invention of long range ballistic missiles, strategic bombers were the preferred method of nuclear warhead delivery on a large scale. Guided missile technology was in its infancy at this point, so bombs were the order of the day and massive wings of strategic bombers were the delivery mechanism. (Side note: The US Air Force recognized that a giant wing of soviet bombers would be extremely difficult to shoot down. Despite having jets, the cannons on said jets were the only reliable means of shooting down enemy aircraft. Missiles were simply too unreliable and rockets were too inaccurate. Conventional rockets were too inaccurate. NUCLEAR rockets on the other hand didn't need to be accurate! So the US developed the AIR-2 Genie nuclear rocket. A soviet bomber wing was to be met with a volley of these badasses and nuked out of the sky.) While technology has moved forward from this point, the image of strategic bombers coming to ruin your shit has stuck with the entire world. As such, any time Russia wants to be a dick, it sends a bear bomber over someone's air space and forces the country to scramble fighters to escort it back out. They had stopped doing it for a few decades, but recently have taken up the hobby again. MEANWHILE nuclear ballistic submarines have no need to be anywhere near your coast to ruin your shit. So them showing up in something like a harbor, or shadowing one of your vessels, isn't likely to be a problem. When it comes to real threats, its the sub you DON'T see that is 1,000 miles away, that is the real problem.[/QUOTE] So they did that just to dick around? Also, I remember some show saying that they would launch a AA nuke, and then it would drop till the level of the bombers, and then detonate. Yep, project nike. [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Nike[/url]

[QUOTE=Swebonny;32321807]Funky pattern by a German and Polish military ship outside Göteborg. [img]http://laddauppbilder.se/?di=513161594415[/img] [img]http://laddauppbilder.se/?di=913161593586[/img][/QUOTE]8 knots, wow that's slow.

It is a search pattern.

[QUOTE=GunFox;32321830]It is a search pattern.[/QUOTE]Man overboard? Or sunken treasure?

[QUOTE=shian;32321813]So they did that just to dick around? [/QUOTE] During the cold war it was also to probe for weak spots in an enemies' air defense grid. They would see how close they could get before RADAR picked them up and then they would note how fast, and how many, aircraft came to greet them. So it was a game of chicken really. One side wanted to provoke a response, but it was in the best interest of the other side NOT to take the bait. But eventually they would be forced to intercept them, because even one bomber, or a perceived weakness, could have brought about nuclear destruction.

[QUOTE=GunFox;32321876]During the cold war it was also to probe for weak spots in an enemies' air defense grid. They would see how close they could get before RADAR picked them up and then they would note how fast, and how many, aircraft came to greet them. So it was a game of chicken really. One side wanted to provoke a response, but it was in the best interest of the other side NOT to take the bait. But eventually they would be forced to intercept them, because even one bomber, or a perceived weakness, could have brought about nuclear destruction.[/QUOTE]Wonder why we don't do that now?

[QUOTE=faze;32321864]Man overboard? Or sunken treasure?[/QUOTE] Not sure. I know that the zig zag is a really good pattern for torpedoes that are hunting submarines, but I'm not sure about surface vessels. My guess is that they are training. Or perhaps even legitimately looking for a sub. [editline]16th September 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=faze;32321885]Wonder why we don't do that now?[/QUOTE] We do. We just use the B-2. As it turns out EVERYWHERE is a weak spot for the B-2! :D How that giant fucker is nearly invisible to RADAR, I have no idea, but even modern RADAR systems have a hell of a time detecting it.

You guys should check: [url]http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/[/url] . It's awesome. [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/Cwjrv.png[/IMG]

[QUOTE=Swebonny;32321957]You guys should check: [url]http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/[/url] . It's awesome. [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/Cwjrv.png[/IMG][/QUOTE]Yeah it's a good site. Check out the waters near Dubai and Kuwait. So many ships in that water it's insane.

[url]http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/article13636495.ab[/url] Click the play button and wait for the ad. A submarine dragging the bouy?

[QUOTE=Cone;32318907]No! Don't attack Sweden! We need them for our shoddily-made but affordable furniture![/QUOTE] [QUOTE=ashton93;32318957]Those fuckers better not attack Sweden. They make goddamn tasteful meatballs[/QUOTE] Sweden is mentioned and the only thing that comes to mind are furniture and meatballs? What the fuck. What about the beautiful women there? Homo, man.

[QUOTE=sHiBaN;32323442]Sweden is mentioned and the only thing that comes to mind are furniture and meatballs? What the fuck. What about the beautiful women there? Homo, man.[/QUOTE] theres nothing like a SWEDISH LADEHH

[QUOTE=sHiBaN;32323442]Sweden is mentioned and the only thing that comes to mind are furniture and meatballs? What the fuck. What about the beautiful women there? Homo, man.[/QUOTE] Like any proper stereotype, one must realize that it is a lie.

[QUOTE=Sexy Eskimo;32318908]It's the fucking Russians again, but what are they going to do? Crash another submarine in swedish water?[/QUOTE] Russian:Oh no comrad! The submarine broke! Swedish:Well not again. Russian:Let's just kamikaze in that squary wreck with holes. Swedish:Fine. *broom broom* Swedish:OH NO IT'S A NUCLEAR SILO! Both:FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-KABOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMB

[QUOTE=SpaceGhost;32319880][url]http://www.resonancepub.com/images/stealth_ship.gif[/url] this is the us's stealth ships, their are more than one.[/QUOTE] No there aren't and Sea Shadow is being sold/scrapped before the end of the year

Sweden has a Navy? :v:

Oh shit, I remember this. Months ago someone took a picture of a conning tower or something, this happens quiet often for some reason.

Please leave Sweden alone, submarine. :C

[QUOTE=SpaceGhost;32319880][url]http://www.resonancepub.com/images/stealth_ship.gif[/url] this is the us's stealth ships, their are more than one.[/QUOTE] Except they are mothballed and we don't use them anymore. [editline]16th September 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=teh pirate;32324532]No there aren't and Sea Shadow is being sold/scrapped before the end of the year[/QUOTE] Ninja!