FOX: Majority of Likely Voters Agree 'Socialist' Accurately Describes Obama
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[QUOTE=bugfix;23248152]No socialist country ever achieved that.
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Please do not confuse socialism with the Welfare state.[/QUOTE]
sorry I know this is like 6 pages late but HAHAHAHahahaHAHAHa
holy fuck the arguments here trying to portray europe as being the worst place ever are basically the worst I've ever seen constructed.
if a left leaning stance to politics is so bad, then why does europe top all of the statistics regarding development, corruption, life expectency, child mortality etc.
[quote]We were the first first-world, democratic nation. And if these other countries continue down their fiscally irresponsible paths, we will be the last...at least the last nation in which hard work, intelligence, cunning, and passion are financially rewarded[/quote]
no he can't have said that.
you are absolutely shitting me.
What's wrong with socialism?
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if a left leaning stance to politics is so bad, then why does europe top all of the statistics regarding development, corruption, life expectency, child mortality etc.
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These kids have been imbued with American exceptionalism since birth, it really isn't their fault that they hold these beliefs. One thing I'm proud of is that as a product of the Canadian education system I'm able to realize that there are countries out there that simply do it better than my own. Americans need to start seeing this if they ever want to lift themselves out of this 1950's position their country seems to be stuck in.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;23303018]These kids have been imbued with American exceptionalism since birth, it really isn't their fault that they hold these beliefs. One thing I'm proud of is that as a product of the Canadian education system I'm able to realize that there are countries out there that simply do it better than my own.[/QUOTE]
Oh yeah we're also all extreme nationalists so go play with your hockey sticks and maple syrup eh. :rolleyes:
I'm not the only one who makes sweeping generalizations.
Sorry to say Democrats, but after this little show... I would not expect another Democratic president for atleast a while... Obama has Socialist atributes... But most of facepunch is about 90% liberal and will rate me disagree or boxes... Can't wait until all Obama's crap is repealed in the next election.
you're an idiot
[QUOTE=Habsburg;23306439]you're an idiot[/QUOTE]
Ahaha, I must be right since I have a diffrent politcal opinon than yourself?
no
[QUOTE=$SLIMSWITCH$;23306474]Ahaha, I must be right since I have a diffrent politcal opinon than yourself?[/QUOTE]
I have no idea what you're trying to say because you suck at commas
you're proving my point by having terrible spelling
[QUOTE=$SLIMSWITCH$;23306404]Sorry to say Democrats, but after this little show... I would not expect another Democratic president for atleast a while... Obama has Socialist atributes... But most of facepunch is about 90% liberal and will rate me disagree or boxes... Can't wait until all Obama's crap is repealed in the next election.[/QUOTE]
How to look like you have a persecution complex: Use the phrase "I know you're going to rate me boxes..." or any variation thereof
[QUOTE=$SLIMSWITCH$;23306404]Sorry to say Democrats, but after this little show... I would not expect another Democratic president for atleast a while... Obama has Socialist atributes... But most of facepunch is about 90% liberal and will rate me disagree or boxes... Can't wait until all Obama's crap is repealed in the next election.[/QUOTE]
That's funny because from what I can tell unless Republicans can come up with someone who isn't a neocon or just a retarded evangelical soccer mom Obama is still the most charismatic leader and most voters would still vote for him.
[QUOTE=$SLIMSWITCH$;23306474]Ahaha, I must be right since I have a diffrent politcal opinon than yourself?[/QUOTE]
Whether Obama is a socialist or not isn't a matter of opinion.
[QUOTE=$SLIMSWITCH$;23306474]Ahaha, I must be right since I have a diffrent politcal opinon than yourself?[/QUOTE]
I could agree with you, but then we'd both be wrong.
[QUOTE=$SLIMSWITCH$;23306474]Ahaha, I must be right since I have a diffrent politcal opinon than yourself?[/QUOTE]
no, it's because you throw around the word "socialist" to describe people that aren't socialist at all
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[QUOTE=Mingebox;23306771]Whether Obama is a socialist or not isn't a matter of opinion.[/QUOTE]
yeah, this. Socialism isn't just a word that means whatever you want it to mean. It has a definition and can be objectively ascribed to people.
[QUOTE=$SLIMSWITCH$;23306474]Ahaha, I must be right since I have a diffrent politcal opinon than yourself?[/QUOTE]
No. It's because you really, REALLY don't understand the term socialist and apply it to people that don't belong to that term at all.
how the fucking hell can he be socialist when he bails out a fucking corporation
how the fucking hell does that fucking work you fucking voting cunts
[QUOTE=$SLIMSWITCH$;23306404]Sorry to say Democrats, but after this little show... I would not expect another Democratic president for atleast a while... Obama has Socialist atributes... But most of facepunch is about 90% liberal and will rate me disagree or boxes... Can't wait until all Obama's crap is repealed in the next election.[/QUOTE]
hey I remember you
you're crazy
[QUOTE=$SLIMSWITCH$;23306404]Sorry to say Democrats, but after this little show... I would not expect another Democratic president for atleast a while... Obama has Socialist atributes... But most of facepunch is about 90% liberal and will rate me disagree or boxes... Can't wait until all Obama's crap is repealed in the next election.[/QUOTE]
Hey... I can... Talk... Like this too... And... I must say... You are crazy...
[QUOTE=thisispain;23309211]how the fucking hell can he be socialist when he bails out a fucking corporation
how the fucking hell does that fucking work you fucking voting cunts[/QUOTE]
Ah, but didn't one of them (GM) wound up being owned by the government through it's stock?
[QUOTE=FreedomFighter;23302847]What's wrong with socialism?[/QUOTE]
Absolutely nothing.
[QUOTE=Glaber;23310405]Ah, but didn't one of them (GM) wound up being owned by the government through it's stock?[/QUOTE]
that's not fucking socialist
socialist (in the smallest of words you understand) is when there's no fucking money and the state owns everything
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socialist (in the smallest of words you understand) is when there's no fucking money and the state owns everything[/QUOTE]
you sure about that?!?!
[QUOTE=Glaber;23310405]Ah, but didn't one of them (GM) wound up being owned by the government through it's stock?[/QUOTE]
temporarily, not permanently
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[QUOTE=thisispain;23311370]that's not fucking socialist
socialist (in the smallest of words you understand) is when there's no fucking money and the state owns everything[/QUOTE]
It's not "the state owns everything", because the state, in democratic socialism, is simply a tool of the people. More accurately, it's where the means of production is publicly owned. Not "owned by the state", it's "owned by everyone".
nobody said democratic socialism
if we're talking about socialism, that moniker given to Obama is dead wrong
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[QUOTE=Chippay;23311511]you sure about that?!?![/QUOTE]
no
[QUOTE=thisispain;23313546]nobody said democratic socialism
if we're talking about socialism, that moniker given to Obama is dead wrong
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democratic socialism is pretty much the only form of socialism that people support here. It's safe to assume no one is talking about Juche
[QUOTE=Sigma-Lambda;23313673]democratic socialism is pretty much the only form of socialism that people support here. It's safe to assume no one is talking about Juche[/QUOTE]
well democratic socialism still requires a free market so i don't understand the issue here
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i mean if it really is like then fox is saying that the majority of likely voters agree that obama is a democrat
this is fox news we're talking about here, people, the only people they interview are dumb rednecks and rightwing nutjobs
[QUOTE=OrionChronicles;23318134]this is fox news we're talking about here, people, the only people they interview are dumb rednecks and rightwing nutjobs[/QUOTE]
Not entirely true. They usually bring on people who disagree with their delusions and they belittle them.
Is socialism really that big of a jump? I thought it was common in the world. All this rhetoric about the wonderful advances of European democracies and all this policy reforming government into a means of distribution and service...and yet the term "socialist" is somehow poisonous?
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