FOX: Majority of Likely Voters Agree 'Socialist' Accurately Describes Obama
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[QUOTE=PrismatexV8;23323138]Obviously you've never tried to sustain yourself on minimum wage.[/QUOTE]
It's hard as fuck
[QUOTE=PrismatexV8;23323138]Obviously you've never tried to sustain yourself on minimum wage.
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Aw, just as I decided to join in.[/QUOTE]
I'm pretty sure he's just a kid and decides he knows everything about how easy it is to live on minimum wage. And if one job isn't enough, work two, while going to school, AND networking(more important than just working hard is networking), but you know, it's all cause they're lazy right.
but you probably knew that, being smart and whatnot
[QUOTE=PrismatexV8;23323138]Obviously you've never tried to sustain yourself on minimum wage.[/QUOTE]
It provides motivation to work harder.
[QUOTE=PrismatexV8;23323138]Aw, just as I decided to join in.[/QUOTE]
It's 2:30 in the morning. Heh.
[QUOTE=Ragy;23323168]It provides motivation to work harder.
It's 2:30 in the morning. Heh.[/QUOTE]
no, it doesn't, and read my post as to why it doesn't.
Grow up, THEN talk about this shit, because you currently DO NOT HAVE A CLUE.
do you understand the being on welfare is degrading
[QUOTE=Lambeth;23323185]do you understand the being on welfare is degrading[/QUOTE]
they're just lazy, right
[QUOTE=Ragy;23323168]It provides motivation to work harder.
It's 2:30 in the morning. Heh.[/QUOTE]
You think that people don't have any motivation if they're on welfare?
people don't want welfare, they turn to it when they have little else to rely on
[QUOTE=Lambeth;23323194]people don't want welfare, they turn to it when they have little else to rely on[/QUOTE]
hurr durr no they don't they do it because they're lazy and don't work hard enough
[QUOTE=PrismatexV8;23323191]You think that people don't have any motivation if they're on welfare?[/QUOTE]
they're lazy and all people on welfare are frauding the state for money whilst being lazy
cause all people are lazy if they aren't stinking rich.
LAZY
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;23323206]they're lazy and all people on welfare are frauding the state for money whilst being lazy
cause all people are lazy if they aren't stinking rich.
LAZY[/QUOTE]
Yeah man, look how hard Paris Hilton worked for all her money.
She's done way more work than those lazy people who've worked construction all their lives.
[QUOTE=PrismatexV8;23323249]Yeah man, look how hard Paris Hilton worked for all her money.
She's done way more work than those lazy people who've worked construction all their lives.[/QUOTE]
fucking lazy people.
paris hilton is a hardworking bitch
tony, the guy that works two full time jobs on welfare to support his family of 3 on minimum wage, he's a lazy motherfucker.
[QUOTE=kdabr;23322056]
Dont even deny that you are a welfare state[/QUOTE]
what a ridiculous claim
[QUOTE=Ragy;23323168]It provides motivation to work harder.
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Working harder does not mean you earn more. If you don't have an education (couldn't afford it because you needed money for your sick parents who can't afford health care) you're pretty much fucked in this economy.
[QUOTE=sp00ks;23325093]Working harder does not mean you earn more. If you don't have an education (couldn't afford it because you needed money for your sick parents who can't afford health care) you're pretty much fucked in this economy.[/QUOTE]
That's not true in his dream world.
[QUOTE=Ragy;23323107]People with jobs on welfare don't need welfare if they have a job.[/QUOTE]
Ever heard of underemployment?
It's worse than unemployment.
Why would people ever CHOOSE to be on welfare? It's not like once you get on the dole you can put your feet up because you're living in luxury. Social welfare is like, the bare minimum you need to survive.
[QUOTE=Lachz0r;23326273]Why would people ever CHOOSE to be on welfare? It's not like once you get on the dole you can put your feet up because you're living in luxury. Social welfare is like, the bare minimum you need to survive.[/QUOTE]
I get a Low Income Tax Credit from the government of Saskatchewan. It's not welfare but it's one of these "evil welfare state" things that conservatives talk about.
It's $200 quarterly.
Yeah. That helps thanks derp
[QUOTE=Zeke129;23326481]I get a Low Income Tax Credit from the government of Saskatchewan. It's not welfare but it's one of these "evil welfare state" things that conservatives talk about.
It's $200 quarterly.
Yeah. That helps thanks derp[/QUOTE]
Exactly. It's ridiculous how some of these anti-welfare people have gotten it into their heads that people on social welfare CHOOSE it because they don't wanna work when in New Zealand if you can get a minimum wage job you can make more in two days then you would in a week on the dole.
[QUOTE=Lachz0r;23326273]Why would people ever CHOOSE to be on welfare? It's not like once you get on the dole you can put your feet up because you're living in luxury. Social welfare is like, the bare minimum you need to survive.[/QUOTE]
Because then you have all the free time you want to do awesome things like look at your shitty appartment and wonder how to afford the next meal. Shit yeah!
barack osama homo bin laden aint no socialist, but he sure as hell is close
It's either a troll or a teabagger. I am unable to tell.
[QUOTE=kdabr;23320687]I give up. There are far too many foreigners and too few articulate/intelligent Americans on FP to win an argument over politics. To be quite honest, I do not believe that the US is the best country in the world. I'd have to say that Norway is. But the minute that they run out of oil, it will go back to being taxed...a lot. I just like the low taxes in America...I'll be totally honest. I think there should be at least one nation in the world that is far right. Is that so wrong? Sometimes a bit of vareity can be useful. Capitalism (and the prospect of the American Dream) made America an extremely powerful, prosperous, and wonderful nation...and we weren't even in debt. Its all falling downhill. The right won't fix it, and the left won't fix it. I'd like to conclude with opposing quotes-
Poor people have been voting democrat for 50 years. And guess what? They are still poor.
-Charles Barkley, One Extraordinary Negro
Art is the great democrat, calling forth creative genius from every sector of society, disregarding race or religion or wealth or color
-JFK
PS- As far right as I may stand, I am not a republican. I refuse to watch FOX[/QUOTE]
lol, this is one of the most retarded posts i've ever seen on this site.
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[QUOTE=Glaber;23310405]Ah, but didn't one of them (GM) wound up being owned by the government through it's stock?[/QUOTE]
that's not socialist
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[QUOTE=kdabr;23321484]It is part of human nature to help the fellow man. It is also human nature to exploit others for personal gain. Those who are offered help often abuse it.
Also, foreign relative to myself...sheesh
And before you get off about helping the fellow man, look up the Uk's welfare abuse rate. The system rewards the idle and punishes the working. The US is far from perfect, but the UK isnt any closer.
And why would we see economic collapse with a far right, free market country? Back before the days of easy credit and an abusively consumerist populace, the U.S. was thriving. You can't fix fiscal irresponsibility among the general populace with welfare...it takes tough love, not free money[/QUOTE]
Easy there Gordon Gecko.
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[QUOTE=Ragy;23322580]
3. If you're poor and don't like it work harder.
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I love naive capitalists, it's funny
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[QUOTE=Ragy;23323107]People with jobs on welfare don't need welfare if they have a job.[/QUOTE]
you are probably an angsty libertarian Ayn Rand loving teenager who has never experienced living alone out side his rich white neighbourhood
You guys think fox is bad?
I think you guys are missing out on Freeps.
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[QUOTE]lol, this is one of the most retarded posts i've ever seen on this site.[/QUOTE]
And you are so qualified to judge eh? I bet you have a 160 IQ and can bench 350 like everyone else on the internet. I bet you also have a PhD and rake in 350k a year. Sorry to attempt to challenge such a staggering intellectual figure.
Kdabr are you offended that Warhol has an opinion?
Ehhhhh...internet arguments are stupid. People's arguments automatically drop 50 IQ points when they are posted on a forum...I just dont think he should be calling my post retarded when not one of us has really posted anything well-supported. There are no winners on the internet. Only losers (Ragy- you are one of those special morons that makes anyone remotely conservative look retarded)
Hah, Obama is quite far away from being a Socialist. Judging from his actions within office, it is clear cut that he is simply a democrat leaning left, but few of his actions can even be considered Socialist. In my opinion, he would make more drastic sweeps of change if he was not blocked by several factors, drastic sweeps that may classify as Socialism to a larger majority. But since little has actually changed with him in office, it is fairly unlikely that he will attempt any actual overhaul within his final stay in office. All those that classify him as a Socialist at this moment are simply ignorant of politics and ideologies, and are unable to comprehend the sublte and major differences between different people, countries, and systems.
Needless to say I believe that Obama has the people's best interests at heart, yet he has been waylaid by people with some motives not quite humanitarian and quite damaging to the US. But that's to be expected within a Capitalist system that has been twisted mainly by corruption.
Too bad Lankist isn't here anymore.
He would have made this thread more... Readable.
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