FOX: Majority of Likely Voters Agree 'Socialist' Accurately Describes Obama
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[QUOTE=Zeke129;23248761]Sounds like a sweet deal. Nobody ever works, yet everybody gets paid. And the government manages to have a surplus.
Scandinavian magic at work[/QUOTE]
Livin' the life.
the thing I don't understand about american right wingers is that they are absolutely fine with have tax funded fire/police/education services (and other things like the military) yet are terrified of government funded healthcare.
[QUOTE=toxicpiano;23248886]the thing I don't understand about american right wingers is that they are absolutely fine with have tax funded fire/police/education services (and other things like the military) yet are terrified of government funded healthcare.[/QUOTE]
Thats because the police force protects the right wing fat cats from the poor people that are forced to steal because they can't afford health insurance.
[QUOTE=bugfix;23248152]No socialist country ever achieved that.
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Please do not confuse socialism with the Welfare state.[/QUOTE]
But welfare is socialism...
[B]Socialism and communism is a giant blue fist that won't let you have more crops.[/B]
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhtq13ACvU8[/media]
[QUOTE=bugfix;23248152]No socialist country ever achieved that.
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Please do not confuse socialism with the Welfare state.[/QUOTE]
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Z4m4lnjxkY[/media]
Canada's right-wing leaders are way further left of Obama, yet we are not even socialist.
[QUOTE=PrismatexV8;23246055]Norway is the fucking bomb. I've lived in the USA all my life, but this:
[img]http://www.bridgat.com/files/Norway_FlagNeed_Fla_2.gif[/img]
stirs more patriotic emotions in me than this:
[img]http://www.freefoto.com/images/11/08/11_08_2---USA-Flag_web.jpg[/img]
Not sure why.[/QUOTE]
You were a Norwegian in a past life. Occupied by the Wehrmacht, your land was raped continuously by Nazi Germany while you and your people stood by helplessly to watch it happen, unable to do anything to stop the war machine plundering your homeland. You had had enough. Your turnips weren't cultivating, hot Norwegian wife had not spread her legs for you in quite sometime, and the Nazis were just generally being assholes. The Nazis had an offensive sense of entitlement to everything. They ate your turnips, laughed at your son's gimpy walk, and wore a :smug: expression at all times.
You quickly grew impatient. You had heard of America's involvement in the European theatre of the war, but you were seeing none of that in your country. With your resentment growing for both Germany and America, you quickly organized a resistance. However, the SS caught wind of your forbidden organization, and you were exiled to Germany where you became a prisoner of war.
You died before your country had been liberated.
[QUOTE=Glaber;23243023]Does it ever work? Last I knew, it was recently failing in Europe.[/QUOTE]
Socialist capitalism and the welfare state gave Denmark the title of [i]richest country in the world per capita[/i].
Sure as hell it works.
In fact curiously enough, a half decade of liberal government later and we're dropping like a stone.
[QUOTE=bugfix;23248613]They still called themselves socialist. (Union of Soviet Socialist Republics)[/QUOTE]
Yeah, and North Korea calls themselves democratic. I could call myself king of the world, but that doesn't make it so.
After watching TED a speaker talked about how governments should make it available to the people to be happy. In America yeah it is available, for a price.
[quote]holy shit OP is a huge idiot[/quote]
The mods should ban Glaber for shitposting. He's crapping up the news threads with his rubbish.
[QUOTE=Jeep-Eep;23252689]The mods should ban Glaber for shitposting. He's crapping up the news threads with his rubbish.[/QUOTE]
Just because I couldn't find a news source that wasn't fox? The only other sources I could find would be against this section's rules to use as a primary source because they are either opinion pieces or blogs.
Find something that isn't fox. Maybe the torygraph or something else halfway credible.
[QUOTE=Glaber;23253428]Just because I couldn't find a news source that wasn't fox? The only other sources I could find would be against this section's rules to use as a primary source because they are either opinion pieces or blogs.[/QUOTE]
No, it's because you're an idiot
[QUOTE=Jeep-Eep;23253543]Find something that isn't fox. Maybe the torygraph or something else halfway credible.[/QUOTE]
why do you have to bitch about everything
[QUOTE=Glaber;23253428]Just because I couldn't find a news source that wasn't fox? The only other sources I could find would be against this section's rules to use as a primary source because they are either opinion pieces or blogs.[/QUOTE]
:downs:
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;23253842]:downs:[/QUOTE]
hey guess what the news article wasn't biased in the least
stop blindly hating fox news
[quote]why do you have to bitch about everything [/quote]
I'm trying to be helpful. Or at least get the burning tard away from my face.
[QUOTE=Glaber;23253428]Just because I couldn't find a news source that wasn't fox? The only other sources I could find would be against this section's rules to use as a primary source because they are either opinion pieces or blogs.[/QUOTE]
Fox News is one big opinion piece.
[QUOTE=Glaber;23242956][release]according to a new poll that looks at [highlight]how well Obama's critics have been able to tag him with that buzzword and its often negative connotations.[/highlight][/release]
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This news article may be from Fox News, but I wouldn't really call it biased.
I still don't trust it.
[QUOTE=Doriol;23253868]stop blindly hating fox news[/QUOTE]
You don't need to blindly hate Fox news to hate it.
Fox news is owned by News Corp. News Corp is owned by a staunch right-winger (Rupert Murdoch) who seems to have a fairly large army who're willing to put a right-wing slant into every single thing he owns.
Let me take a recent snippet from The Sun, a News Corp. owned newspaper. "Well, that's left thinking for you, and whenever has the Left ever been correct?" This used to be a very tough "Fuck the government!" working-man's socialist paper.
Not only does the company as a whole seem to be nothing more than paying people to be a mouthpiece for Murdoch, and as a method of preaching the values of conservatism and the right, but it's 'news' articles like this that make a mockery of genuine, honest reporting.
While I don't believe all journalism has to be neutral, there atleast has to be a polarization towards facts and looking at things from all sides. Fox News and it's cousins in News Corp favor right-wing opinion pieces and slander of any political viewpoint they don't like. This can also be said of left-wing papers, but I don't see many of them that thrust 'We don't trust the liberal media!' and 'We're being threatened by the huge fist of the leftist papers!' they try and hide behind.
Go and watch Fox News for a month. Then read the news from Aljazeera. Compare.
There has never been, nor will there ever be a purely capitalist or purely communist/socialist society. They are two polar extremes, and although they may certainly be much more of one then the other, you'll never have it be entirely on one end of the spectrum.
[QUOTE=Jeep-Eep;23252689]The mods should ban Glaber for shitposting. He's crapping up the news threads with his rubbish.[/QUOTE]
No.
You would think that by now the credibility of FOX NEWS would be non-existent.
They say it because it what the news tells them
[QUOTE=MrEndangered;23254811]You don't need to blindly hate Fox news to hate it.
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okay
you don't need to bitch about an article being biased just because it's from fox news, either
[QUOTE=Doriol;23257574]okay
you don't need to bitch about an article being biased just because it's from fox news, either[/QUOTE]
fox news is responsible for 90% of negative american stereotypes because of articles like this