[QUOTE=_Axel;48324349]So what? People are proud of their country, their culture, their family, even when they took no significant part in the success of those groups nor overcomed any significant obstacle to be part of them. Just because gay pride is largely derived from successfully fighting against homophobic bigotry doesn't mean that's how pride works in general. You're taking a specific instance of pride and act as if every particularity it bears is shared by pride at large.[/QUOTE]
There's nothing wrong with straight pride but everything wrong with straight pride as an offensive response to gay pride.
[QUOTE=J!NX;48324367]heteros have bad taste in color and fashion
i hear their souls are devoid of any color and fashion[/QUOTE]
It's easier to live with in Easter Europe. We just wear tracksuits most of the time and they tend to be black and white :v:
Gay Pride
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Straight Pride
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Straights: 0
Gays: 1
[QUOTE=_Axel;48324349]So what? People are proud of their country, their culture, their family, even when they took no significant part in the success of those groups nor overcomed any significant obstacle to be part of them. Just because gay pride is largely derived from successfully fighting against homophobic bigotry doesn't mean that's how pride works in general. You're taking a specific instance of pride and act as if every particularity it bears is shared by pride at large.[/QUOTE]
As mentioned above, gay pride is much different from national pride and this event is definitely a direct response to gay pride.
[QUOTE] to celebrate our right to be heterosexual, and to encourage younger heterosexuals that they should be proud of their heterosexuality."[/QUOTE]
This is word-by-word a reply to gay pride parades. Some would call this parody, or an insult.
[QUOTE=darth-veger;48324548]Gay Pride
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Holy shit, I want to ride on that.
this article is pretty much that Onion article that goes "Fucking loser goes to the movies by himself"
As for straight pride: the moment any government tries to take away your rights on the basis of sexuality I'll march my ass in a straight pride parade but right now it's just a movement going "screw the gays getting attention and respect"
"Gay Pride? What about a [B]STRAIGHT[/B] Pride parade?"
"Oh, he's over there."
[QUOTE=_Axel;48324349]So what? People are proud of their country, their culture, their family, even when they took no significant part in the success of those groups nor overcomed any significant obstacle to be part of them. Just because gay pride is largely derived from successfully fighting against homophobic bigotry doesn't mean that's how pride works in general. You're taking a specific instance of pride and act as if every particularity it bears is shared by pride at large.[/QUOTE]
You're just being silly and find any excuse to say "Uhm, I believe in TRUE equality that means we need white pride parades!!!" when in reality you're just defending stupid at best and intolerant at worst people.
[editline]29th July 2015[/editline]
Give me one good reason you need to take "pride" in being straight, and tell me how you don't look like a massive homophobic tool in doing so.
[editline]29th July 2015[/editline]
Cultures, Countries, and families come with the accomplishments of your heritage, your peers, your countrymen, and achievements in arts, science, athletics, or careers. Straight people are the norm, so if you were to say "Wow, a straight man found the cure for cancer, I sure am proud to be straight!" You look like a huge tool who's trying to make a big deal about his sexuality in contrast to gay people (who they probably dislike). This is different for a gay person because gay people are still struggling to be accepted in a lot of parts in the world. 99% of the world is straight, if a straight person accomplishes something, you don't need to bring attention to the fact that they're straight. And THAT'S the big difference between taking pride in your sexuality as a straight person and taking pride in your country, family, or culture.
what i find even more amazing than the fact only one person showed up is the fact he stayed around and marched anyway
that's some serious pride in your manly straightness
[QUOTE=_Axel;48324349]So what? People are proud of their country, their culture, their family, even when they took no significant part in the success of those groups nor overcomed any significant obstacle to be part of them. Just because gay pride is largely derived from successfully fighting against homophobic bigotry doesn't mean that's how pride works in general. You're taking a specific instance of pride and act as if every particularity it bears is shared by pride at large.[/QUOTE]
If you wanna be proud of being straight by all means but you'll largely just look like a tosser as in the OP.
[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;48324231]Standing tall and being proud of who you are when you have been raised in an a society that, largely, has treated you with indifference at best and hate-driven violence at worst, that's something that takes courage. That's something that forms communities and develops movements. Standing tall and being proud of being the vast, unthreatened majority is just being a cock when it's reactionary against gay pride. Especially considering this guy's vitrolic hate speech about LGBT.[/QUOTE]
Amen. Couldn't have put it better myself. People who complain of a lack of straight pride don't understand how gay pride works. It's not some government created event- it originated and is regularly organised by the gay community itself. The reason there isn't a straight pride parade, amongst others, is that there's no "straight community" to organise it. The reason there's no straight community is because there has been no massive, long term oppression of straight people that forced them to band together to survive. That's how minority communities are formed.
I bet there was a ballpit
[QUOTE=Aldawolf;48325000]You're just being silly and find any excuse to say "Uhm, I believe in TRUE equality that means we need white pride parades!!!" when in reality you're just defending stupid at best and intolerant at worst people.[/QUOTE]
Putting words in my mouth as usual. I'm not saying "straight prides" are necessary. In fact I think it's pretty useless. What I'm saying is that people are free to be proud of what they feel proud of regardless of the underlying justification.[QUOTE]
Give me one good reason you need to take "pride" in being straight, and tell me how you don't look like a massive homophobic tool in doing so.
[editline]29th July 2015[/editline]
Cultures, Countries, and families come with the accomplishments of your heritage, your peers, your countrymen, and achievements in arts, science, athletics, or careers. Straight people are the norm, so if you were to say "Wow, a straight man found the cure for cancer, I sure am proud to be straight!" You look like a huge tool who's trying to make a big deal about his sexuality in contrast to gay people (who they probably dislike). This is different for a gay person because gay people are still struggling to be accepted in a lot of parts in the world. 99% of the world is straight, if a straight person accomplishes something, you don't need to bring attention to the fact that they're straight. And THAT'S the big difference between taking pride in your sexuality as a straight person and taking pride in your country, family, or culture.[/QUOTE]
Then there's no reason to be proud to be human either then is there? Since when do you need to justify your sense of pride to others, that's ridiculous. People like you should stop being so judgemental about things that don't affect you and actually start to be as tolerant of others as you claim to be.
[editline]30th July 2015[/editline]
[QUOTE=Headhumpy;48324424]There's nothing wrong with straight pride but everything wrong with straight pride as an offensive response to gay pride.[/QUOTE]
Sure, but I was responding to people who were saying a straight pride per se was offensive.
[QUOTE=_Axel;48328755]People like you should stop being so judgemental about things that don't affect you and actually start to be as tolerant of others as you claim to be.[/QUOTE]
kind of a weird statement to defend straight pride when the "judgemental people that care way too much about stuff that doesn't affect them" you mention are exactly the reason why straight pride exists in the first place
[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;48328816]kind of a weird statement to defend straight pride when the "judgemental people that care way too much about stuff that doesn't affect them" you mention are exactly the reason why straight pride exists in the first place[/QUOTE]
Again, I think this argument is caused because pride is a misleading word.
[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;48328816]kind of a weird statement to defend straight pride when the "judgemental people that care way too much about stuff that doesn't affect them" you mention are exactly the reason why straight pride exists in the first place[/QUOTE]
I think we shouldn't generalize. "Straight pride"'s nature is not inherently reactionary. For all you know some people might set up a straight pride because they find gay prides fun and want to organize something themselves.
This story is really sad.
Imagine being this guy...
[QUOTE=gastyne;48329090]This story is really sad.
Imagine being this guy...[/QUOTE]
Yeah imagine being a bigot. Thats truly the saddest life I can imagine
[QUOTE=_Axel;48329060]I think we shouldn't generalize. "Straight pride"'s nature is not inherently reactionary. For all you know some people might set up a straight pride because they find gay prides fun and want to organize something themselves.[/QUOTE]
You can be straight and still organize an LGBT pride parade of your own? You just have to cooperate with a local LGBT community.
[QUOTE=gufu;48329158]You can be straight and still organize an LGBT pride parade of your own? You just have to cooperate with a local LGBT community.[/QUOTE]
In mean doing the same thing with straight people.
[QUOTE=_Axel;48329171]In mean doing the same thing with straight people.[/QUOTE]
I mean, no one would stop you. Just get some floats, pink dresses, water guns and talk it out with the mayor?
[QUOTE=gufu;48329217]I mean, no one would stop you. Just get some floats, pink dresses, water guns and talk it out with the mayor?[/QUOTE]
Yeah I doubt it would encounter much resistance if any but that's not the point.
[QUOTE=_Axel;48329254]Yeah I doubt it would encounter much resistance if any but that's not the point.[/QUOTE]
What's the point, then? You said that you want to have an event for people to have fun through activities much like LGBT parade. I don't see the problem with that. If you want to specifically have an event like that and specifically want to call it a "Straight Pride Parade" instead of a thousands other possibilities. Well, that's just a very specific, yet generally pointless idea.
[QUOTE=gufu;48329350]What's the point, then? You said that you want to have an event for people to have fun through activities much like LGBT parade.[/QUOTE]
I never said that.
My point was that such "straight prides" are not necessarily motivated by homophobia.
[QUOTE=_Axel;48329419]I never said that.
My point was that such "straight prides" are not necessarily motivated by homophobia.[/QUOTE]
But they just don't have a flat out point of existing as "straight prides"? They have no reason or value to be specifically such?
[QUOTE=gufu;48329526]But they just don't have a flat out point of existing as "straight prides"? They have no reason or value to be specifically such?[/QUOTE]
So do lots of other events.
This guy is literally complaining about people who make more females available to straight guys as himself(yea right)
Therefore, he wants more girls to be taken, and more men not-taken. This guy is gay himself.
[QUOTE=_Axel;48329060]I think we shouldn't generalize. "Straight pride"'s nature is not inherently reactionary. For all you know some people might set up a straight pride because they find gay prides fun and want to organize something themselves.[/QUOTE]
Do you [I]honestly[/I] believe that, though? That someone would go through the trouble of organizing an event and actively associating themselves with a notoriously reactionary "movement", if you can even call it that, without realizing the implications? Why aren't these hypothetical, 100% unprejudiced people who find gay parades fun not just going to the gay parades, then?
[QUOTE=Blue Meanie;48329711]This guy is literally complaining about people who make more females available to straight guys as himself(yea right)
Therefore, he wants more girls to be taken, and more men not-taken. This guy is gay himself.[/QUOTE]
It takes a really special person to have such a way of thinking.
I don't understand why the "is it birth or choice" thing makes any sense.
I'm bisexual with mostly 50/50 preference.
Is it somehow bad when I look at men when otherwise I could look at women?
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