Norway So Fucking Rich They Don't Know What to Do With it All
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[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;42133205]The literal survival of all life on planet Earth depends on better understanding our oceans, because they are dying rapidly as a result of our ignorance. It's hard to get much more "beneficial" than that.
Oceans are home to 90% of the biomass on our planet, they produce over 50% of the oxygen we breath, and the food and medicine and products that come from them would end life as we know it if they were to cease being provided. And they [I]are[/I] dying. Healthy reefs are a rare sight these days, over 9/10ths of the large fish in the sea are just gone, and the acidifying oceans are becoming more and more inhospitable to what still survives. And that's just why we [I]need[/I] to invest dramatically more money and time into researching their mysteries. You could write entire books (and indeed, many people have) about why we should[I]want[/I] to. Ocean research is every bit the economic, scientific, technological driver that space exploration is, and it comes with much more immediate and tangible results.
The Great Barrier Reef, for instance, pulls in over $5bn in annual tourist revenue. And the GBR is bleaching and collapsing at a frightening rate.
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This is not to say that space exploration shouldn't get more funding. Space exploration [I]rules![/I] But it is so highly romanticized that people are forgetting a very important fact: without first saving our own planet, we won't survive to explore others.
[video=youtube;43DuLcBFxoY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43DuLcBFxoY[/video][/QUOTE]
Do you have a fever? I think you caught the virus. You're yearning for the sea. There is no cure.
[editline]9th September 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=MrJazzy;42133402]I get what you're saying and I agree with you to a certain extent but the fact is that the reason for why space exploration is so important - I'd say it's underated rather than romanticized - is because by learning about other planets we learn about our own, by applying physics to space we discover the laws of the universe which has given birth to many inventions and concepts. Most of our modern technology has risen because of space exploration.
The green house effects, which are just as much of a threat as contaminated oceans, were discovered because of space exploration.
But then it's not about space exploration [I]or[/I] ocean exploration. If we choose one we'll certainly lose, both are equally important.[/QUOTE]
You can't understand climate science without first understanding ocean science. It's that important to the cycle of everything.
I heard America needs abit of money..
I have a fire in my britches, and only deep sea magma vents can put it out.
The point of all this is that space research is super cool, but ocean research needs to start being taken a lot more seriously! By all means, continue increasing funding for space agencies, they need it, but all that's not going to amount to much if we don't start giving NOAA and their international buddies a bigger piece of the pie as well.
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;42133896]I have a fire in my britches, and only deep sea magma vents can put it out.
The point of all this is that space research is super cool, but ocean research needs to start being taken a lot more seriously! By all means, continue increasing funding for space agencies, they need it, but all that's not going to amount to much if we don't start giving NOAA and their international buddies a bigger piece of the pie as well.[/QUOTE]
You'll like this: [url]http://deepseanews.com/2012/10/we-need-an-ocean-nasa-now-pt-1/[/url]
And this: [url]http://deepseanews.com/2012/03/10-reasons-why-we-should-explore-the-deep/[/url]
And maybe this too: [url]http://deepseanews.com/2012/11/four-decades-of-funding-of-u-s-marine-biology-are-we-in-trouble/[/url]
African development efforts?
Baltic/Scandinavian projects, please. I'll go suck dicks in Norway if I can make even a fraction of their salaries.
[QUOTE=OvB;42133805]You can't understand climate science without first understanding ocean science. It's that important to the cycle of everything.[/QUOTE]
Right, but climate science is benefited by space programs. By examinating oceans and climates on other worlds we learn a lot about the oceans and climates in our world.
[QUOTE=Onion836;42134103]African development efforts?[/QUOTE]
Oh man, one rating alone can't express how fucking hilarious that post is
[QUOTE=OvB;42134033]You'll like this: [url]http://deepseanews.com/2012/10/we-need-an-ocean-nasa-now-pt-1/[/url]
And this: [url]http://deepseanews.com/2012/03/10-reasons-why-we-should-explore-the-deep/[/url]
And maybe this too: [url]http://deepseanews.com/2012/11/four-decades-of-funding-of-u-s-marine-biology-are-we-in-trouble/[/url][/QUOTE]
By "like" do you mean, "dislike with an intense degree?"
[quote]This cut has come despite an overall request for a 3.1% increase in funding for NOAA. Cutting NURP saves a meager $4,000,000 or 1/10 of NOAA’s budget and 1,675 times less than we spend on the Afghan war in just one month.[/quote]
It's just so bleak. I agree completely with the sentiments of the author; the trends of underfunded projects and budget cuts he's highlighting are really bummin' me out! Unless we heed his warnings and begin to see the real value in ocean research and exploration, I won't have much left to explore but a sunken graveyard by the time I get out of college! And also of course there's that whole "we need the ocean to live" thing, but human survival is totally secondary to me having a chance to explore a real, living ocean.
[editline]9th September 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=MrJazzy;42134161]Right, but climate science is benefited by space programs. By examinating oceans and climates on other worlds we learn a lot about the oceans and climates in our world.[/QUOTE]
In the amount of time it would take to acquire the funding, research the technology, build the platform, and send a probe capable of examining the oceans of the nearest oceanic body, Europa, Earth's oceans will be dead (and we will be following behind them shortly). Unless we all agree focus our efforts and money a little more locally, that is.
I suppose we could pay 1/10 of the American national debt.
[QUOTE=Limed00d;42129517]We should invest in the TF2 economy[/QUOTE]
Stay away
We should just buy the Eiffel tower and put it in Oslo so that we can collect cash from traveling people. And expand the border of our taxes through Europe.
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;42134205]In the amount of time it would take to acquire the funding, research the technology, build the platform, and send a probe capable of examining the oceans of the nearest oceanic body, Europa, Earth's oceans will be dead (and we will be following behind them shortly). Unless we all agree focus our efforts and money a little more locally, that is.[/QUOTE]
First I want to say one thing:
If we put the money and effort into it we may not be able to reach Europa for another 60 years perhaps, but in 20 years we could reach Mars and research the oceans of water that are believed to may have been there [I]and[/I] in the same time, maybe not visit but observe the frozen waters of Europa with reasonable precision.
But even having that said, I actually agree with you now - if I had to choose between one or the other I would choose to study the oceans.
Irrelevant to the question though; there is really enough money to go to both ocean and space exploration, so even though ocean is a step ahead, space exploration is not far behind.
[QUOTE=Agoat;42127755]they should buy me an xbox one :)[/QUOTE]
They don't have the landmass though.
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