• YouTube Star TotalBiscuit Seeking Professional Help
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If Totalbiscuit were to do himself in because of this bullshit, then I am just giving up on what the internet can do.
[QUOTE=Jimesu_Evil;43953236]Kinda hard to make that call, really. Didn't his suicide come like [i]completely[/i] out of the blue?[/QUOTE] Nobody saw it coming, and he was extremely friendly and happy to everyone around him.
[QUOTE=Jimesu_Evil;43953236]Kinda hard to make that call, really. Didn't his suicide come like [i]completely[/i] out of the blue?[/QUOTE] JewWario was the type of person that loved everyone and had a reason to live, but he still committed suicide, probably due to depression or something. If you ever knew someone like that, then you'd know that TB isn't anywhere near that kind of level.
[QUOTE=Glent;43953269]I feel sorry for TotalBiscuit, but I think when he acts like a dick to people in his comments, he shouldn't be surprised if people act the same way towards him. Mainly I stopped watching him around the time he made that stupid "you have already been replaced" post, so I don't know if he's done anything like that since then.[/QUOTE] He's pretty much been beating himself up over that post ever since he made it. Thing is it's easy to say "Well when you act like a dick people act like a dick right back", but that post was in response to constantly being asked/told to play a certain game, and then being abused just for saying no. He definitely could have handled that better and he admits this, and has been actively trying to improve himself. I'd recommend listening to that soundcloud link everybody's been linking in these threads.
[QUOTE=Blazedol;43953221]He won't, he's not [I]that[/I] bad.[/QUOTE] You never know with these situations
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;43953375]You never know with these situations[/QUOTE] I never know anything for sure, but I can make a guess based on my own experiences.
[QUOTE=wickedplayer494;43953078]FUN Creators (or anyone else, really) could be tried for libel and defamation leading to death.[/QUOTE] That would be a strange suit, because it's not clear that the lawsuit by FUN or their comments were what drove TB to post his 'going away letter'. Furthermore, legal history is rife with instances of litigants committing suicide in part due to duress which generally does not compound against their opposition. TB's post also would make it clear that even if FUN was not 'innocent' in some culpable way, that he did have serious compounding issues which would mitigate if not remove blame from them entirely.
[QUOTE=Blazedol;43953221]He won't, he's not [I]that[/I] bad.[/QUOTE] With depression and emotional problems, no one is completely certain of just how bad it is. Some people hide it well. TB might have opened up a bit about his stress and concerns but it could be 10x worse in his head and isn't able to describe it. Only the person experiencing it can really know how bad it is.
I really do like Totalbiscuit for his honesty. His explanations, arguments and opinions are always spot on and backed up by solid arguments. He does research and knows so much about gaming in general, be it journalism, laws, business or just general knowledge. Sometimes he can come off as an ass if you don't like such persons but I think he's just a great guy. I don't always agree with him but he shouldn't suffer so severely from people just giving him shit.
TB as a reviewer is decent, TB as a person is a cock.
[QUOTE=Vasili;43953918]TB as a reviewer is decent, TB as a person is a cock.[/QUOTE] Most people seem to think the opposite.
It's absolutely unbelievable to see how people think that sympathy equals to fanboyism. How can a person have such a lack of empathy and comprehension. You can still respect a person even if you disagree with it.
[QUOTE=Brt5470;43954047]Most people seem to think the opposite.[/QUOTE] You should check out his pseudo intellectual rant during his SA days.
[QUOTE=Vasili;43954217]You should check out his pseudo intellectual rant during his SA days.[/QUOTE] he's said multiple times that he regrets saying that. people still quote it as an example of why he's a dick, though. surely all of us have said things/thought things in the past that we regret.
[QUOTE=Vasili;43954217]You should check out his pseudo intellectual rant during his SA days.[/QUOTE] That was how many years ago?
[QUOTE=Jimesu_Evil;43954583]That was how many years ago?[/QUOTE] Given the chance of how much burning hatred a man can have for another, anyone can and will look for anything negative of that person, past, unintended, or not. Doesn't matter, they will find an excuse to slam someone down, anyone down, if it means they feel some sense of "justice".
People are still going for the "grow a thicker skin" argument ? Like, okay, it makes sense to use it ONCE of all things, but when the guy in question wrote a very clear message on reddit that explained how he pretty much tried and failed, you should probably stop using that retarded argument. It's got its limits.
[QUOTE=mc lovin;43951512]Good counter point on the topic of the OP! I dunno I'd take 6 figures for some people on the internet calling me silly names and playing pranks. Besides his rant is on things that come with popularity; regardless you get the fanbase that hates and harrasses and the others that enjoy.[/QUOTE] You see the problem with your mindset is that you're equating money to happiness. You should stop that
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;43954672]People are still going for the "grow a thicker skin" argument ? Like, okay, it makes sense to use it ONCE of all things, but when the guy in question wrote a very clear message on reddit that explained how he pretty much tried and failed, you should probably stop using that retarded argument. It's got its limits.[/QUOTE] I can kinda understand why people are still saying that. I mean, all he has to do is ignore it, and he'd be ok, and I understand it's not that simple for him, but that's why I hope this professional help goes through smoothly.
[QUOTE=ironman17;43948443]The way I see it is the human/person philosophy, wherein there are two kinds of individual, namely those who are merely human and those that are actual people. Being merely human means that you're merely an animal, a very smart kind of animal as homo sapiens sapiens, but an animal nonetheless. However if you are a person, you are a fair distance above the beast within you, the primal instincts that instruct you to merely survive, fight and fuck. Every individual should strive to be a person, and never be satisfied with being merely human. You're a bipedal dexterous sapient entity, and merely wallowing in the base instincts that come by default is like having an amazing sandwich and only eating the bread. Sadly this kind of simplicity tends to rub off on others, and people find themselves mocked by screeching, shit-flinging, hairless monkeys who don't understand and, in some cases, carry the Original Sin of not wanting to understand so they can keep on being apes. It's like Marylin Manson said, "Hey you, are you trying to be mean? You live with apes, man, it's hard to be clean". That said he said a lot of other things that I'm not into, but that's beside the point. Gotta put yourself above the animals by being the best darn thing you can be, making the most of humanity's most powerful asset, found in intellect and understanding. But even if you have six wings and burn with the fires of a sapient sun, you're still in the monkey house, and it's impossible to tune out the rattling cages, the primal screaming and the smell of shit, even if you're doing amazing stuff that puts you above the apes.[/QUOTE] Don't take this the wrong way (I actually agree with you for the most part) but the way you've worded all of that ends up coming across as quite pretentious. [QUOTE=Ganerumo;43948457]if you take them with a bit of distance and put his critique in relation to your own needs his videos become more interesting and funnier generally.[/QUOTE] You'd thing that would be the way people treat them by default. He specifies in nearly every video that his "WTF Is..." series is opinion based and that you shouldn't take it as outright fact. He may not spell it out quite as much as you did there but he say basically the same thing. [QUOTE=frozensoda;43948516]He chose this career, he should have expected this. There are better ways to deal with internet trolls than posting more fuel for their fire online, unless that was the goal, of course.[/QUOTE] He should have expected something that the vast majority of us didn't even realize was an issue until recently? [QUOTE=Killuah;43948528]Now lets have a look at how Facepunch consensus changes [url]http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1249454[/url] 1 year ago. Read the first page.[/QUOTE] Do you have a shitposting quota you fell behind on meeting or something? In the last day I've seen a good 10-20 posts from you and they're overwhelmingly really bad posts. [QUOTE=ijyt;43948683]And now if I revealed that, oh I have depression/anxiety issues, so I lash out, then what? Sure call me a cunt, but at least I'm consistent and not fickle like the rest of you. If TB wants people to stop calling him out on his shit, then stop giving them shit to get called out on.[/QUOTE] "If you want people to stop bullying you stop giving them things to bully you over." Great logic. [QUOTE=ijyt;43949083]yeah, i mean, after an entire day of being a normal, productive member of society, why not throw shit around anonymously with other shit throwers and unwind[/QUOTE] Man, you know the best way to unwind after a shitty day? Shitting all over some random person and making their day shitty too!
[QUOTE=Blazedol;43954746]I can kinda understand why people are still saying that. I mean, all he has to do is ignore it, and he'd be ok, and I understand it's not that simple for him, but that's why I hope this professional help goes through smoothly.[/QUOTE] It's not a problem of ignoring it (that works for a while and as we've seen with the "I don't do requests" incident, it can only work for so long), it's a problem of perspective. I totally understand that he got really worked up over his job because if you see things from his point of view doing things at home means he can't escape his job when he's in the comfort of his own house, and he can't exactly go on the internet without being talked about somewhere in some shape or form. I mean, his name is referenced in quite a bit of video games, Total Biscuit isn't some odd name people haven't heard of, it's a big thing : he cameos in other videos regularly, has done some work for Lore, works with other people, etc. It's totally understandable from that perspective to be stressed out when your main source of entertainment and comfort also becomes your main source of income (and sources of income generally produce quite a bit of stress for obvious reasons). He just needs to take a break and see things differently. It may suck that he has to deal with dicks all the time but at the moment his job is one of the most secure things this side of the earth, he's given free games from a parent company, and the money he makes out of it is fairly decent (he's publishing videos on the internet and getting paid for it, that wasn't possible even six years back). You could argue the situation is the same with someone holding a TV show of sort. Who gives a shit what people think of you ? You're just facing a camera, grow a thicker skin. You're still exposing yourself trying to be interesting to earn a living out of your own ability to keep people entertained and you're turning yourself into a big fat target for all sorts of unfair critique. Now it doesn't mean that TB is perfect or that he can't be criticized on anything (his videos can be obnoxious, he does complain about seemingly unmeaningful sometimes, and he does exaggerate quite a lot), but there's a reason behind all the shitstorm. In a way I feel sorry for judging that guy too harshly because clearly he's doing his best and I can totally understand being stressed out so much by such a job. [editline]18th February 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Alice3173;43954864]You'd thing that would be the way people treat them by default. He specifies in nearly every video that his "WTF Is..." series is opinion based and that you shouldn't take it as outright fact. He may not spell it out quite as much as you did there but he say basically the same thing.[/QUOTE] As far as I remember his main defense against people calling his videos "shit reviews" and the like were that those weren't reviews but first impressions, which is a TERRIBLE way of clarifying because you're swapping one word with the other without really making sure people understand either of them. Not to mention when people started going "yo that guy's a bit of a cunt" his fans immediately started white-knighting like a bunch of idiots and argued that it was okay because he's called the "cynical brit" (which is also a terrible way of defending anyone and that's why I'm calling them white knights, cause they're fucking terrible at defending anything). I remember a while ago when I posted a comment on his I Wanna Be The Guy: Gaiden video saying that the video had disappointed me for legitimate reasons and that I was growing a bit bored of his constant yelling so I stopped watching his videos for a while. I got fucking showered with response comments ranging from disagreement to utter death threats. When a part of your fanbase is both that retarded AND vocal, you really don't want them to defend any of your things or as a matter of fact speak in your name to any sort of extent. And these people assume a TON of things about who they're watching, to the point it's really fucking creepy because they think they know the guy more than he knows himself.
[QUOTE=Quark:;43950324]Ah, shaving one's head, the perfect cure for stress and other psychological problems.[/QUOTE] It worked fine for Britney Spears. :v: [sp]That was a horrible joke...[/sp] [QUOTE=Ganerumo;43954868]As far as I remember his main defense against people calling his videos "shit reviews" and the like were that those weren't reviews but first impressions, which is a TERRIBLE way of clarifying because you're swapping one word with the other without really making sure people understand either of them. Not to mention when people started going "yo that guy's a bit of a cunt" his fans immediately started white-knighting like a bunch of idiots and argued that it was okay because he's called the "cynical brit" (which is also a terrible way of defending anyone and that's why I'm calling them white knights, cause they're fucking terrible at defending anything). I remember a while ago when I posted a comment on his I Wanna Be The Guy: Gaiden video saying that the video had disappointed me for legitimate reasons and that I was growing a bit bored of his constant yelling so I stopped watching his videos for a while. I got fucking showered with response comments ranging from disagreement to utter death threats. When a part of your fanbase is both that retarded AND vocal, you really don't want them to defend any of your things or as a matter of fact speak in your name to any sort of extent. And these people assume a TON of things about who they're watching, to the point it's really fucking creepy because they think they know the guy more than he knows himself.[/QUOTE] I've only really watched his videos since the Day One: Garry's Incident incident but noting that his WTF Is... videos weren't reviews and shouldn't be outright taken as objective fact was one of the very first things I took note of. He normally stays fairly objective, notes when he's aware that an issue he has is a subjective thing, and covers things he thinks will affect various gamers negatively who might otherwise be interested in a game. (And does a good job at it. His WTF Is... Deus Ex: Human Revolution actually encouraged me to give the game another solid try after not liking it the first time around.)
Stress really is a killer. I think everyone here has had a period in their lives where they've had huge amounts of stress, so everyone knows how terrible it feels. Now imagine you have that same stress for weeks, months on end. It's not difficult to imagine how it can turn someone into a complete wreck.
[QUOTE=V12US;43955461]Stress really is a killer. I think everyone here has had a period in their lives where they've had huge amounts of stress, so everyone knows how terrible it feels. Now imagine you have that same stress for weeks, months on end. It's not difficult to imagine how it can turn someone into a complete wreck.[/QUOTE] The worst part of it is the post-stress. You think you'd feel happy not having to deal with stress anymore, but somehow you can't really be happy at all and you still feel anxious.
[QUOTE=Blazedol;43954746]I can kinda understand why people are still saying that. I mean, all he has to do is ignore it, and he'd be ok, and I understand it's not that simple for him, but that's why I hope this professional help goes through smoothly.[/QUOTE] The thing that boggles me most about people who say this is that if it was so easy as to just "man up", why hasn't TB done so already? He has, for years, [I]as he has stated[/I], but it just isn't a permament solution.
[QUOTE=Natrox;43955585]The worst part of it is the post-stress. You think you'd feel happy not having to deal with stress anymore, but somehow you can't really be happy at all and you still feel anxious.[/QUOTE] Kinda true, I am under stress right now yet I don't do that much work and try to relax. But thanks to this I don't get any work done, so I get under more stress and feel bad. And then I can't work at all, but then the same happens again. Even if I finish, I feel bad about wasting so much time. It's a downward spiral you can catch yourself in
God, I hope this won't be the end of him. We need people like TotalBiscuit to stick around. Harsh almost to a fault, but cutting through the bullshit like Drano.
[QUOTE=Monkey san;43947605]TB you cant be a utter cunt sometimes, but you do really get alot of shit for no reason. But heavy stress is not something to joke about really, and holy shit grey hair at 29?[/QUOTE] Sad fact: Even without extreme stress it's very common to start getting grey hairs at 25-30. And I'm glad I heard that recording he made, that he realises he's a huge dick to a LOT of people, both his supporters and devs. I'm clad his thing of trying to make people not buy games because of his opinion is over.
[QUOTE=G-Strogg;43956390]Sad fact: Even without extreme stress it's very common to start getting grey hairs at 25-30. And I'm glad I heard that recording he made, that he realises he's a huge dick to a LOT of people, both his supporters and devs. I'm clad his thing of trying to make people not buy games because of his opinion is over.[/QUOTE] True, I am very much enjoying guise of wolf game thing
poor guy... [editline]18th February 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=ijyt;43948420]social websites literally have block/ignore buttons[/QUOTE] But life doesn't have a block/ignore button
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