[QUOTE=doommarine23;17485536]People need gun licenses and alot of money to get a gun.
I think there's some age-limits too.
Sure, I agree there should be laws (Which there are) but let's face it. With guns, it works like this
If Legal
Civilians have guns for Recreation/Self-Defense
Criminals have guns
If Illegal
Civilians are defenseless
Criminals have guns
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my bad broo
monke:hf:doommarine[/QUOTE]
If guns were banned they would be harder for criminals to get hold of, there would be less in circulation
[QUOTE=James*;17485575]If guns were banned they would be harder for criminals to get hold of, there would be less in circulation[/QUOTE]
Black Markets exist, other countries exist with smuggling.
[QUOTE=Bredirish123;17485554]Guns should be treated as if they're loaded at all times. This makes them dangerous; but if you don't act like a fucking dolt then they can be safe.[/quote] This is true. You should also handle a gun with extensive care, and make sure you have the proper firearms training.
[quote=Bredirish123]My point; guns are safer when you handle them properly and as instructed per the safety information you receive when buying a gun. Most of it is common sense anyways.[/QUOTE]
They are safer, but never completely safe.
[QUOTE=Bredirish123;17485554]Guns should be treated as if they're loaded at all times. This makes them dangerous; but if you don't act like a fucking dolt then they can be safe.
My point; guns are safer when you handle them properly and as instructed per the safety information you receive when buying a gun. Most of it is common sense anyways.[/QUOTE]
Okay
Doesn't mean you can't intentionally kill someone else with one
[QUOTE=CanibalMonke;17485585]This is true. You should also handle a gun with extensive care, and make sure you have the proper firearms training.
They are safer, but never completely safe.[/QUOTE]
If a gun has no ammo in it, it's completely safe
Guns don't just spawn bullets.
[QUOTE=doommarine23;17485581]Black Markets exist, other countries exist with smuggling.[/QUOTE]
They exist yes, but often criminals have guns which they stole of people who legally owned them is this correct?
[QUOTE=James*;17485597]Okay
Doesn't mean you can't intentionally kill someone else with one[/QUOTE]
You can kill someone intentionally with your own hands, with a knife, with a fork, with a god damn wire
I guess we should ban
Hands
Knives (and I mean dinner ones too)
Forks
Wires
Everything
About time.
[QUOTE=James*;17485612]They exist yes, but often criminals have guns which they stole of people who legally owned them is this correct?[/QUOTE]
True, True
Any sources though?
Fuck, I was planning on going hunting this year T_T
[QUOTE=doommarine23;17485603]If a gun has no ammo in it, it's completely safe
Guns don't just spawn bullets.[/QUOTE]
There could be a round in the chamber, most people fail to notice that small detail until they see their child's brains on the wall.
[QUOTE=doommarine23;17485603]If a gun has no ammo in it, it's completely safe
Guns don't just spawn bullets.[/QUOTE]
But it brings up the quest; What in the fuck are you doing with an unloaded gun, besides cleaning it or not using it immediately?
[QUOTE=James*;17485575]If guns were banned they would be harder for criminals to get hold of, there would be less in circulation[/QUOTE]
Not really. Because the ban only happens in America. Smuggling. And people can make guns in their fucking house if they're good enough. Dude in Japan did it.
Now that guns have existed, they can never be taken away completely.
One can kill a man with something as benign as a common pen. So surely pens must be as dangerous as firearms, right? A man can stab you as easily as he could shoot you, so why not ban all pointy objects?
Lankist, your argument consists of blindly saying "GUNS ARE BAD BAN GUNS THEY KILL PEOPLE." I've not seen any good argument come out of your mouth out of the many times I've watched you 'debate.'
Adding onto the 'gun banning' what's to stop a determined man from simply going to less-than-legal sources to get a firearm? Now that no one has guns, except for this man and the authorities, who's going to stop him?
[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;17485646]There could be a round in the chamber, most people fail to notice that small detail until they see their child's brains on the wall.[/QUOTE]
You just ignored my point
if a gun has no ammo, it's completely safe.
Sure that's a point to take into consideration
That's why we act like as if a gun is loaded at ALL TIMES
holyfuck this thread moves fast
You ninja.
[QUOTE=CanibalMonke;17485647]But it brings up the quest; What in the fuck are you doing with an unloaded gun, besides cleaning it or not using it immediately?[/QUOTE]
Movies, Reviews, Modding it (new grips, painting whatever)
Goofing around with it, practicing your reload and stance
[QUOTE=Lankist;17484698]No. YOU aren't. The rest of us are.
Guns ARE more dangerous. There are degrees of danger. You can't just ignore them.[/QUOTE]
Hey intelligent one,
Did you know you can kill someone twice as fast with a knife over a gun?
Knives are illegal to carry in public unless their smaller then your hand.
[QUOTE=doommarine23;17485626]You can kill someone intentionally with your own hands, with a knife, with a fork, with a god damn wire
I guess we should ban
Hands
Knives (and I mean dinner ones too)
Forks
Wires
Everything[/QUOTE]
Besides killing, tell me what a gun is designed to do, hammer in nails? Pick things up? Tell me a function it performs besides spitting out a round at supersonic speeds.
[QUOTE=James*;17485597]Okay
Doesn't mean you can't intentionally kill someone else with one[/QUOTE]
Same applies to a car.
[QUOTE=doommarine23;17485626]You can kill someone intentionally with your own hands, with a knife, with a fork, with a god damn wire
I guess we should ban
Hands
Knives (and I mean dinner ones too)
Forks
Wires
Everything[/QUOTE]
I covered this earlier
[QUOTE=James*;17485035]Guns make it easier to kill people not just because they're powerful but because they're less personal, many people couldn't strangle someone but they'd have no trouble with shooting them[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=kyle877;17485650]One can kill a man with something as benign as a common pen. So surely pens must be as dangerous as firearms, right? A man can stab you as easily as he could shoot you, so why not ban all pointy objects?
Lankist, your argument consists of blindly saying "GUNS ARE BAD BAN GUNS THEY KILL PEOPLE." I've not seen any good argument come out of your mouth out of the many times I've watched you 'debate.'
Adding onto the 'gun banning' what's to stop a determined man from simply going to less-than-legal sources to get a firearm? Now that no one has guns, except for this man and the authorities, who's going to stop him?[/QUOTE]
No, what Lankist is saying that guns are dangerous objects, and should be treated with that respect. He said himself he owns 3.
[QUOTE=doommarine23;17485660]Goofing around with it[/QUOTE]
One should never goof around with a gun.
[QUOTE=protoAuthor;17485648]Not really. Because the ban only happens in America. Smuggling. And people can make guns in their fucking house if they're good enough. Dude in Japan did it.
Now that guns have existed, they can never be taken away completely.[/QUOTE]
They can't be taken away completely but the number can be reduced enough to make an impact
[QUOTE=CanibalMonke;17485688]One should never goof around with a gun.[/QUOTE]
Never said you should, it's simply an example
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[QUOTE=James*;17485705]They can't be taken away completely but the number can be reduced enough to make an impact[/QUOTE]
You know, STEN SMGs can be made with like 5 parts right?
[QUOTE=James*;17485705]They can't be taken away completely but the number can be reduced enough to make an impact[/QUOTE]
But people still die.
I'm sorry, but it's too late.
You can also defend yourself from other people with a gun, and save your own life.
[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;17485671]Besides killing, tell me what a gun is designed to do, hammer in nails? Pick things up? Tell me a function it performs besides spitting out a round at supersonic speeds.[/QUOTE]
You can say they're "Designed" to kill but really they're designed to just shoot out rounds at super/sub/whatever-sonic speeds.
You're the one who decides to attach violence to it and kill people.
Me? I think of target ranges and some good stress relief when I think of guns.
[QUOTE=doommarine23;17485722]Never said you should, it's simply an example
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You know, STEN SMGs can be made with like 5 parts right?[/QUOTE]
So why doesn't every criminal in Britain have one
[QUOTE=doommarine23;17485722]Never said you should, it's simply an example
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You know, STEN SMGs can be made with like 5 parts right?[/QUOTE]
And out of the estimated 5 parts, only 2 of them are moving parts.
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