• Not being on Facebook is 'suspicious' - most likely insane or a mass murderer
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I'll just leave the apologists to debate on their own with others that still want to debate. I'll check back in 5 years on the situation of Facebook.
[QUOTE=Dori;37126156]orkut, mixi, badoo, qzone, renren?[/QUOTE] yeah maybe those would be relevant if people used them or if I lived in Japan
[QUOTE=UnknownDude;37123815]What a load of bollocks. Anders Behring Breivik did actually have a Facebook profile, but apparently he got a friend to delete it or something.[/QUOTE]No it was actually taken down by facebook itself shortly after the event.
[QUOTE=wickedplayer494;37126173]I'll just leave the apologists to debate on their own with others that still want to debate. I'll check back in 5 years on the situation of Facebook.[/QUOTE] If Facebook goes to shit I'll leave it, but I won't leave it now for fears of that happening creating some imaginary stigma against me.
[QUOTE=Elecbullet;37126192]If Facebook goes to shit I'll leave it, but I won't leave it now for fears of that happening creating some imaginary stigma against me.[/QUOTE] Last time I checked, it's already shit.
[QUOTE=Elecbullet;37126182]yeah maybe those would be relevant if people used them or if I lived in Japan[/QUOTE] how are they not relevant? in order for your argument to hold any ground at all, it needs to apply to all of those sites. just because "other poor people" don't use facebook, that doesn't mean they don't matter [editline]1[/editline] as far as I can tell, this attitude that only friendless losers don't use sites like facebook is completely western-centric [editline]1[/editline] and the fact that you think the sites I listed are all japanese really shows how uncultured you are
[QUOTE=mobrockers2;37126153]My profile is private and I'm not about to add an employer on facebook, does that count as not having one in their eyes?[/QUOTE] I think they sell your information even if your profile is "private".
[QUOTE=Elecbullet;37126132]A main reason why someone should use Facebook is because other people do: that is the main factor that determines the usefulness of a social network. By using that shit statistic, he is trying fallaciously to undermine the argument for the usefulness of Facebook.[/QUOTE] we aren't talking about the usefulness of facebook as a whole, but as individuals and how certain people catagorize people who don't find it useful (because they; do not agree with facebooks policies, use another service, or you know... go outside(if you are going to latch on to the go outside part and ignore everything else don't bother responding))
[QUOTE=Kljunas;37126216]I think they sell your information even if your profile is "private".[/QUOTE] Um what o.O
[QUOTE=wickedplayer494;37126204]Last time I checked, it's already shit.[/QUOTE] There are these things called opinions, and they aren't fact Please stop treating them as such
[QUOTE=SIRIUS;37126220]we aren't talking about the usefulness of facebook as a whole, but as individuals and how certain people catagorize people who don't find it useful (because they; do not agree with facebooks policies, use another service, or you know... go outside(if you are going to latch on to the go outside part and ignore everything else don't bother responding))[/QUOTE] The thread was originally about the original post, it became a thread about the general merits or lack thereof of Facebook.
[QUOTE=mobrockers2;37126242]Um what o.O[/QUOTE] Just because you set something to private doesn't mean the administrator of a site can't see it. Otherwise, there'd be underground child porn networks everywhere.
[QUOTE=Elecbullet;37126170]Whoops, I used the wrong word. Revised: You can believe that openly being antisocial is a good idea, I can believe that openly being antisocial is pretty shitty.[/QUOTE] ahh, that makes sense. I'm still not sure why you think it's bad that some people prefer to be alone though. I'm one of them, I've never felt comfortable in large groups and I don't enjoy social activities. I prefer to be on my own. The most friends I've ever had at one time was 3, but they were really close. I've never had the slightest hint of interest in parties and 'going out on the town', never had any interest in 'hanging out', hell I rarely play multiplayer. I just prefer to be alone. The less socializing I do the happier I am. I don't see why it's 'wrong' to be that way.
[QUOTE=Dori;37126209]how are they not relevant? in order for your argument to hold any ground at all, it needs to apply to all of those sites. just because "other poor people" don't use facebook, that doesn't mean they don't matter [editline]1[/editline] as far as I can tell, this attitude that only friendless losers don't use sites like facebook is completely western-centric [editline]1[/editline] and the fact that you think the sites I listed are all japanese really shows how uncultured you are[/QUOTE] what is this western-centric shit I will center my discussion about the West if I live in the West. I didn't think they were all Japanese. I was not familiar with them so I Googled one or two. One was American, one was Japanese. I'm sure that the others I didn't search were either American or for some other foreign country.
[QUOTE=Kljunas;37126216]I think they sell your information even if your profile is "private".[/QUOTE] They do. Setting it to private only stops other FB users from seeing your info, Facebook still sells every last bit to anyone willing to pay for it. 'tis why I flat refuse to use Facebook. I value my privacy, they do not, therefore I refuse to use their site in any capacity. My lack of desire for social interaction has no effect on my decision not to us FB.
[QUOTE=TestECull;37126259]ahh, that makes sense. I'm still not sure why you think it's bad that some people prefer to be alone though. I'm one of them, I've never felt comfortable in large groups and I don't enjoy social activities. I prefer to be on my own. The most friends I've ever had at one time was 3, but they were really close. I've never had the slightest hint of interest in parties and 'going out on the town', never had any interest in 'hanging out', hell I rarely play multiplayer. I just prefer to be alone. The less socializing I do the happier I am. I don't see why it's 'wrong' to be that way.[/QUOTE] I just don't think it's very good for you. I don't like parties or mass gathering either, but I do enjoy some one-on-one entertainment.
So I can change my name on facebook to "Gruffy Mcfaggpants" and still be taken seriously by an employer?
[QUOTE=Elecbullet;37126274]what is this western-centric shit I will center my discussion about the West if I live in the West.[/QUOTE] we are talking about social interaction between humans. people outside of the west are humans, no matter how poor and disgusting you think they are [editline]1[/editline] real, meaningful social interaction happens outside of the internet. whether or not you use a social networking site says absolutely nothing about who you are as a person
[QUOTE=Elecbullet;37126291]I just don't think it's very good for you. I don't like parties or mass gathering either, but I do enjoy some one-on-one entertainment.[/QUOTE] And I have one friend, a loving family, and a loving girlfriend for that. I don't need anyone else.
[QUOTE=mobrockers2;37126242]Um what o.O[/QUOTE] They can do whatever they want with the info you give them. And also all the pictures you upload there are their property if I remember correctly.
[QUOTE=TestECull;37126318]And I have one friend, a loving family, and a loving girlfriend for that. I don't need anything else.[/QUOTE] well good luck with that
[QUOTE=Elecbullet;37126252]The thread was originally about the original post, it became a thread about the general merits or lack thereof of Facebook.[/QUOTE] no, i'm pretty sure we're bashing your judgement of people who don't use facebook [editline]7th August 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Elecbullet;37126329]well good luck with that[/QUOTE] you sound sarcastic, not sure why.
[QUOTE=Elecbullet;37126329]well good luck with that[/QUOTE] It's been working fine for me since 2006, don't see why I should change that.
[QUOTE=SIRIUS;37126332]you sound sarcastic, not sure why.[/QUOTE] Yep, it's really hard to take that statement seriously Elecbullet.
[QUOTE=SIRIUS;37126332]no, i'm pretty sure we're bashing your judgement of people who don't use facebook [editline]7th August 2012[/editline] you sound sarcastic, not sure why.[/QUOTE] The OP was judgmental. I too was judgmental. People said that it was wrong because there are bad things about Facebook. It became a discussion about the merits of Facebook. It's all of the above. And no, I've told you that I don't think it's the best plan of action, but if you want to live like that then all I can say is "don't say I didn't warn you" cause I feel there are bigger and better things.
[QUOTE=Kljunas;37126327]They can do whatever they want with the info you give them. And also all the pictures you upload there are their property if I remember correctly.[/QUOTE] No they can't, that's illegal.
[QUOTE=Janus Vesta;37126141]Yes, being antisocial means you are more likely to not have a Facebook account, it does not mean having a Facebook account makes you more social or lacking a Facebook account makes you antisocial. I think we can agree on that, yes?[/QUOTE] Of course, and for the record, that's basically been my point the whole thread [QUOTE=Janus Vesta;37126141]This isn't about anybody in history having a problem with facebook because they have no friends. It's about people in this thread, who you said must not have friends because they lack Facebook accounts. Even if you didn't intend that, that is how it came across. How you worded it didn't seem empathetic, it seemed insulting.[/QUOTE] I was more responding to your "not once has this been a factor in anything" with my reference to "in history". Either way, I legitimate do believe a lot of people are angry at facebook because of a lack of friends, I don't think they're a worse person for that or that I'm better in any way. A lot of people have social issues because of family troubles growing up, disorders, or any other number of things. [QUOTE=Janus Vesta;37126141]I didn't say rage, I said aggression. You don't have to post in all caps with incomprehensible grammar and spelling to be aggressive. How you're wording things, saying people have no friends, claiming the entire thread is "raging" when there's only a couple of contentious posters* makes you seem aggressive. *I'm one of those posters by the way, not imagining I'm somehow superior to anyone here.[/QUOTE] It's just the way you're interpreting it, I'm seeing it as the other way around. I open any thread on facebook and the first thing I see is a tonne of angry posts or completely insane shit like "wickedplayer" is saying, and the anger seems really unwarranted. [QUOTE=Janus Vesta;37126141]Was that bit in the quote tags you quoting yourself or did something wierd happen when you're posting? I'm honestly not sure. Either way, I don't think you're getting mad at my "excellent well thought out posts", I just think you came into the thread with a mindset of 'people are going to be ripping on Facebook for retarded reasons' and were preemptively ready for an arguement. I mean I can't blame you look at what section we're posting in. I just think you need to see that to others you could come off as aggressive and it has caused unnecessary arguement. Also, I only made one jab, and that was at your lack of punctuation, which also made a couple of you posts hard to follow. I didn't mean it as an attack on you as a person.[/QUOTE] It was me quoting myself, I just had a hard time understanding why anyone would think my posts were "aggressive". I [b]was[/b] anticipating an argument because generally what happens when you post a contradictory opinion on facepunch is angry personal attacks and poorly thought out strawmans. I completely understand that I may come off entirely different than I am - it's easy for things to be misunderstood when voice tones can't be heard.
[QUOTE=wickedplayer494;37126257]Just because you set something to private doesn't mean the administrator of a site can't see it. Otherwise, there'd be underground child porn networks everywhere.[/QUOTE] Difference being that selling personal information without consent is illegal, and you can't consent merely by signing up, that wouldn't hold up in court.
[QUOTE=Elecbullet;37126291]I just don't think it's very good for you. I don't like parties or mass gathering either, but I do enjoy some one-on-one entertainment.[/QUOTE] essence of the phrase GOOD for YOU
[QUOTE=mobrockers2;37126389]Difference being that selling personal information without consent is illegal, and you can't consent merely by signing up, that wouldn't hold up in court.[/QUOTE] Their ToS and privacy policy still hold up regardless of your privacy settings. It only controls what other people (excluding Facebook's admins) see.
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