PC Gaming being "held back" by Consoles says Crytek Boss - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Ridge;26361621]So if Crytek thinks consoles are ruining gaming, then why the hell are they making console versions of the new Crysis?[/QUOTE] Money because businesses want that.

[QUOTE=Virtanen;26361733]It is, good games' sequels being dumbed down for consoles. Look at what they did to Supreme Commander 2.[/QUOTE] [img]http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/supreme-commander.jpg[/img] SC2 was just a bunch of weird development decisions culminating in a weird final product. And I can't help shaking the feeling that Square Enix had something to do with it too. [editline]28th November 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=strayebyrd;26360147]wow you seem quite aggressive, it's just a computer. No need to throw insults around mate. [editline]28th November 2010[/editline] you actually kind of proved the second half of my point there[/QUOTE] Nice job skirting around the actual point of the post to nitpick.

[QUOTE=MrJazzy;26360560]I highly disagree, good luck doing what the Wii does on the computer.[/QUOTE] Derp [url]http://www.dolphin-emu.com/news.php[/url]

[QUOTE=Stopper;26355426]My PC was worth 800$ and I bought it five years ago. I can still play every game that's come out without any problems.[/QUOTE] how come whenever someone talks about there pc and how it didnt cost 3000$ johan_sm disagrees like we are all lieing or something

The problem is that with a console, all you have to do is buy the console and some games. The only extra equipment you'll have to buy is maybe some controllers and a mic. For a PC, you have to either spend a shitload of cash on a super PC or buy a bunch of new stuff for an older one. You could spend 100+ on a console, or 300+ on a gaming PC.

I'm a console gamer and while I agree games are much better when played on the PC I can see the appeal of playing on the console. One thing is that it is much simpler you just buy your console hook it up to the TV and your off, you don't have to worry about changing the settings or checking systems specs. I also find console gaming more sociable as it is easier to get a few friends over while sitting on the sofa, and yes there is LAN party's for that but I would just find that a hassle setting up loads of PCs in one room.

I don't see consoles dying in a long time. I'm for and against it, I know we can have better games and graphics, but I'm not rich, so I can't afford the ultimate pc to run the most demanding games.

[QUOTE=Generic.Monk;26362548] Nice job skirting around the actual point of the post to nitpick.[/QUOTE] actual point? My actual point was that it's pretty pathetic for anyone to get their panties in a bunch over the console vs pc argument, and you did get you panties in a bunch by jumping to insults in a reasonable discussion.

[QUOTE=Mudbone;26337649]PC gaming is just typically too expediencies for normal people. Id rather buy a new xbox and know It will play every game that comes out for it without having to upgrade it every year. edit: everyone who rates boxes lives with their parents and has no expenses so they can afford a leet gaming PC.[/QUOTE] Every now and again I really miss the smartness system and autobans.

They really should release next generation of consoles. With something like quad core cpu, a good gpu and 4-6gb of ram.

[QUOTE=FlakAttack;26338571]Current estimates put 4% of western gamers as pirates. Not only that, but you, as a retarded and ignorant American... [/QUOTE] I see your strategy, throw some unfounded claims at me and then try to insult my intelligence because I am American. Who is ignorant? Why don't you try to show me some sources for that statistical bullshit you are spewing because until then you are the "retarded" one. How the hell would they get such a figure? A survey? Who would admit to stealing? [QUOTE=FlakAttack;26338571]Console piracy is even more prevalent in other countries than PC piracy is. Go to Eastern Europe and it's easier to buy a pirate X360 than it is to buy a legit one.[/QUOTE] Oh this just makes me laugh. Do you really believe that a poor region of the world that was never actually a gaming market has any real statistical significance? Sure, maybe console piracy is more prevalent in Eastern Europe. But with such a small and poor population, you can't make any reasonable comparison. Especially when most people there don't even have computers. [QUOTE=FlakAttack;26338571] You think systems like Steam were designed to stop piracy? [/QUOTE] Actually, no, I don't. Why try to think of some [I]brilliant [/I]counter-arguement for something I never said was true? I see the way you work, just strawman arguements without providing any factual basis. I know I won't get any support here because this forum is filled with children who are pirates and believe they are entitled to everything without having to actually pay for it. Why is it that the console market is so much more profitable? Tell me. Please. Because if I wanted to I could find any PC game on a torrent site and download it easily. Spore was pirated over [B]500,000 times. [/B]Do you think that doesn't mean anything? Do you think that all of those 500,000 people just wanted to "try" out the game before they bought it? Get over yourself. You are the one too blind and ignorant to see the truth.

[QUOTE=Stopper;26355426]My PC was worth 800$ and I bought it five years ago. I can still play every game that's come out without any problems.[/QUOTE] on lowest quality.

I mainly wanna see technologies being utilized more in very in depth and varied gameplay, or using new physics/graphics related technologies for gameplay purposes instead of just some generic shooter with pretty graphics.

Call of Duty is such a good example of some publishers preffering consoles. I'm pointing to you Activision.

[QUOTE=tier56;26367667]Call of Duty is such a good example of some publishers preffering consoles. I'm pointing to you Activision.[/QUOTE] Unfortunately Kotik doesn't give a shit.

[QUOTE=tier56;26367667]Call of Duty is such a good example of some publishers preffering consoles. I'm pointing to you Activision.[/QUOTE] thats because they know a shooter like that will appeal to console gamers more then pc gamers.

Pirating is what is holding the PC gaming market back.

The 360 probably costs like 40 bucks to make now because of how terribad the hardware is by today's standards.

For as much as a wii and an Xbox you can get regular graphics card and cpu upgrades and pay the same or even lesser a price of regular games. Plus if you use a service like steam or D2D you don't have to worry about your game discs scratching or breaking and breaking out the warranty number or going to the local shop to get a new one or repair. Or even worry about harddrive failure. I say PC gaming is the best path, the unfortunate thing though is that we have the demographic of people who don't understand or care for these things. [editline]28th November 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=fingersticks;26369592]Pirating is what is holding the PC gaming market back.[/QUOTE] Pirates don't have the money or the want to buy stuff, and that's why they do what they do. Most of the time if they have the desire to buy something because they think they owe it to the developers to keep making great things, they will. [editline]28th November 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=dogmachines;26367832]Unfortunately Kotik doesn't give a shit.[/QUOTE] Fourtunatly Kotick's boss and Treyarch both don't like him now and we can get on with our lives.

[QUOTE=jjsullivan;26369813]For as much as a wii and an Xbox you can get regular graphics card and cpu upgrades and pay the same or even lesser a price of regular games. Plus if you use a service like steam or D2D you don't have to worry about your game discs scratching or breaking and breaking out the warranty number or going to the local shop to get a new one or repair. Or even worry about harddrive failure. I say PC gaming is the best path, the unfortunate thing though is that we have the demographic of people who don't understand or care for these things. [editline]28th November 2010[/editline] Pirates don't have the money or the want to buy stuff, and that's why they do what they do. Most of the time if they have the desire to buy something because they think they owe it to the developers to keep making great things, they will. [editline]28th November 2010[/editline] Fourtunatly Kotick's boss and Treyarch both don't like him now and we can get on with our lives.[/QUOTE] On PC, they get significantly less sales, pirating defiantly contributes. Consoles are just a more marketable system, pirating being a factor.

I like how a lot of people have the argument: "consoles don't have up-to-date hardware and so the graphics aren't as good!" but then they'll also say, "graphics aren't what makes a game." Make your fucking minds up, people. I love gaming on both the PC and consoles, and to be fair, console games really don't look that bad if your argument is gonna be graphics. In fact I think it's amazing what can be done on the 360 and PS3 this many years after release. I mean, did anyone see the environments in Halo: Reach? That shit was beautiful. Even if you don't like Halo, you have to praise them on that.

People play on consoles because they are easier to set-up, they don't have to worry about viruses or anything like that, its easier to set up, and you don't need to upgrade it every year

Why can't we just enjoy both PCs and consoles?

Can you say obvious? It's just a difference of risk/reward when deciding where to publish.

[QUOTE=Jimbojib;26338446]I don't see why. I would much rather my friends gamed on a PC though.[/QUOTE] I wish I knew anyone who lived near me that gamed on or even owned a PC.

[QUOTE=Del91;26377513]I wish I knew anyone who lived near me that gamed on or even owned a PC.[/QUOTE] No one I know even has a console. Some haven't even heard of them :v:

[QUOTE=strayebyrd;26353395]Yeah but where are you going to sit? My argument wasn't really about the screen size, it was about the seating, and how if you're sitting on a couch or something, you're going to need some sort of flat surface across your lap, which does make it less comfortable. And I mean, I think the whole 'console VS PC' argument is kind of pathetic anyway, some people like to play games on a console, some people like to play games on a PC, just seems really petty to make arguments about it to me.[/QUOTE] [img]http://www.logitech.com/assets/14351/14351.png[/img]

Who gives a shit? And I disagree with him, he's just looking at the wrong developers. Just because Activision can suck in major profits from milking a known cash cow doesn't mean its dying. Just look at games like inFAMOUS, Uncharted or....shit, someone do the 360 for me. I don't have it and don't really know the games for it, that aren't on the PS3 as well.

[QUOTE=HolyCrusade;26365699]I see your strategy, throw some unfounded claims at me and then try to insult my intelligence because I am American. Who is ignorant? Why don't you try to show me some sources for that statistical bullshit you are spewing because until then you are the "retarded" one. How the hell would they get such a figure? A survey? Who would admit to stealing? Oh this just makes me laugh. Do you really believe that a poor region of the world that was never actually a gaming market has any real statistical significance? Sure, maybe console piracy is more prevalent in Eastern Europe. But with such a small and poor population, you can't make any reasonable comparison. Especially when most people there don't even have computers. Actually, no, I don't. Why try to think of some [I]brilliant [/I]counter-arguement for something I never said was true? I see the way you work, just strawman arguements without providing any factual basis. I know I won't get any support here because this forum is filled with children who are pirates and believe they are entitled to everything without having to actually pay for it. Why is it that the console market is so much more profitable? Tell me. Please. Because if I wanted to I could find any PC game on a torrent site and download it easily. Spore was pirated over [B]500,000 times. [/B]Do you think that doesn't mean anything? Do you think that all of those 500,000 people just wanted to "try" out the game before they bought it? Get over yourself. You are the one too blind and ignorant to see the truth.[/QUOTE] Don't worry, I'm here for you on that pirating thing

Some of the main reasons why I like consoles more than PCs these days You can instantly put in a CD that you just bought from a store and play. You can rent games for a week instead of having to buy them / play a 30 minutes demo Easier to pick up and play I don't have to search for new parts every few years to make sure I can run the games well A few years ago when I wasn't working 70+ hours a week, I preferred PC gaming. But now when you're short on free time, I don't really like having to go through that extra hassle when I could just put the disc in and be playing with my friends in less than 2 minutes