[QUOTE='[sluggo];32747615']No, he just absolutely hates anything that could possibly be related to Israel, and wants to dismiss anything that could make them look even a little bit good.[/QUOTE]
Someone captures Israeli troops: HOW DARE THEY OH MY GOD THESE FILTHY FUCKING SCUM THEY CAPTURED OUR GLORIOUS ISRAELI FREEDOM FIGHTERS
Israel captures 300 citizens with no trial or proof other than their word: Yayyyy Israel! Thank you for keeping the middle east safe for us Israel, we love you!
[QUOTE=Zambies!;32750762]It's ISRAEL, lets get ANGRY guys.[/QUOTE]
It's ISRAEL, let's BLINDLY defend them guys.
[QUOTE=Kopimi;32750809]Someone captures Israeli troops: HOW DARE THEY OH MY GOD THESE FILTHY FUCKING SCUM THEY CAPTURED OUR GLORIOUS ISRAELI FREEDOM FIGHTERS
Israel captures 300 citizens with no trial or proof other than their word: Yayyyy Israel! Thank you for keeping the middle east safe for us Israel, we love you!
[/QUOTE]
How the fuck did you even get to this conclusion?
you can even take this thread as a live example. No one here in Facepunch gives a fuck about Gilad Shalit, just count how many comments here are actually about him.
Usually when it comes to the Israeli goverment doing something wrong there's a shitload of pages with comments blaming them, but here not even a single one about how
wrong it was capturing Gilad, and then even using him as a key to set free 1027 people, including murderers.
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Yeah way to go "Stany01", rate me dumb without even having a proper response to my comment.
[QUOTE=Kero_;32751062]How the fuck did you even get to this conclusion?
you can even take this thread as a live example. No one here in Facepunch gives a fuck about Gilad Shalit, just count how many comments here are actually about him.
Usually when it comes to the Israeli goverment doing something wrong there's a shitload of pages with comments blaming them, but here not even a single one about how
wrong it was capturing Gilad, and then even using him as a key to set free 1027 people, including murderers.
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Yeah way to go "Stany01", rate me dumb without even having a proper response to my comment.[/QUOTE]
Yeah it was horrible of them to capture an Israeli [b]soldier[/b] to free a thousand Palestinian [b]citizens[/b]
What kind of terrible, terrible people would dare capture a glorious Israeli soldier to free their citizens that were captured and held without trial
[QUOTE=Kopimi;32751785]Yeah it was horrible of them to capture an Israeli [b]soldier[/b] to free a thousand Palestinian [b]citizens[/b]
What kind of terrible, terrible people would dare capture a glorious Israeli soldier to free their citizens that were captured and held without trial[/QUOTE]
NOPE. You may have troubles understanding that, but no, not all these 1027 people are peaceful good citizens. Many of them are murderers, those who aren't are people who helped planning terrorist attacks. When the list is published you'll get things figures by yourself.
[QUOTE=Kero_;32751876]NOPE. You may have troubles understanding that, but no, not all these 1027 people are peaceful good citizens. Many of them are murderers, those who aren't are people who helped planning terrorist attacks. When the list is published you'll get things figures by yourself.[/QUOTE]
Oh sorry I totally forgot that every single one of them is a barbaric terrorist that was tried and convicted, and that Israel is ready to provide proof of this rather than just saying "trust us" like they always do.
My bad.
[QUOTE=Kopimi;32751916]Oh sorry I totally forgot that every single one of them is a barbaric terrorist that was tried and convicted, and that Israel is ready to provide proof of this rather than just saying "trust us" like they always do.
My bad.[/QUOTE]
So all of the 1027 are just innocent citizens that were imprisoned just by that. You don't have any
source supporting that or real evidences, and that's a pretty exaggerated claim.
Oh and also your first post in this thread indicates that you pretty much have no knowledge about this.
[QUOTE=Kopimi;32751785]Yeah it was horrible of them to capture an Israeli [b]soldier[/b] to free a thousand Palestinian [b]citizens[/b][/QUOTE]
yes it was, two wrongs don't make a right young man
[QUOTE=Kero_;32751876]NOPE. You may have troubles understanding that, but no, not all these 1027 people are peaceful good citizens. [b]Many of them are murderers, those who aren't are people who helped planning terrorist attacks.[/b] When the list is published you'll get things figures by yourself.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Kero_;32752037][b]You don't have any source supporting that or real evidences[/b], and that's a pretty exaggerated claim.[/QUOTE]
ironic
[QUOTE=Kero_;32751062]How the fuck did you even get to this conclusion?
you can even take this thread as a live example. No one here in Facepunch gives a fuck about Gilad Shalit, just count how many comments here are actually about him.
Usually when it comes to the Israeli goverment doing something wrong there's a shitload of pages with comments blaming them, but here not even a single one about how
wrong it was capturing Gilad, and then even using him as a key to set free 1027 people, including murderers.
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Yeah way to go "Stany01", rate me dumb without even having a proper response to my comment.[/QUOTE]
Israeli defending Israel.
shocking!
[QUOTE=Soviet Bread;32752188]Israeli defending Israel.
shocking![/QUOTE]
I don't understand what you're even trying to say here. Would you be shocked if an America defended America or a Brit defended Britain? Why is it so incredible that an Israeli would defend Israel?
[QUOTE=jaykray;32752299]I don't understand what you're even trying to say here. Would you be shocked if an America defended America or a Brit defended Britain? Why is it so incredible that an Israeli would defend Israel?[/QUOTE]
He's being sarcastic and pointing out that he's just defending his home country despite all the obvious things that make it a terrible country
[QUOTE=jaykray;32752299]I don't understand what you're even trying to say here. Would you be shocked if an America defended America or a Brit defended Britain? Why is it so incredible that an Israeli would defend Israel?[/QUOTE]
Not shocking, clearly biased.
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But it's deeper then that.
[QUOTE=Kopimi;32752476]He's being sarcastic and pointing out that he's just defending his home country despite all the obvious things that make it a terrible country[/QUOTE]
As would most people, it's not relevant to anything.
[QUOTE=jaykray;32752659]As would most people, it's not relevant to anything.[/QUOTE]
Saying that most people would blindly defend their country despite numerous atrocities committed as well as ongoing plights against innocent people isn't much of a defense
[QUOTE=Kopimi;32753091]Saying that most people would blindly defend their country despite numerous atrocities committed as well as ongoing plights against innocent people isn't much of a defense[/QUOTE]
It doesn't need a defense, it wasn't an attack. Like I said it was an irrelevant comment. Though I maintain that wherever you go there will be large amounts of people who would blindly defend their country. However, that's not what the topic is about right now.
[QUOTE=Kero_;32747332][url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Israel-Hezbollah_prisoner_swap[/url]
I find it funny how you enjoy defending terrorists.[/QUOTE]Can you read your own link? They were mutual agreements, they already knew they were dead and Israel wanted the remains. Hezbollah also released soldiers for remains of their units as well.
Jaykray is trying to paint this as if Israel was promised the soldiers were alive and instead, they only got bodies.
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I don't see how I'm the blind one here or how I'm even defending terrorists, you made a bullshit claim regarding previous prisoner swaps (Israel being tricked into getting dead bodies only), I call you out on it and you even provide a source [I]backing up my claim[/I] and I'm the 'blind defender' here?
You're defending an oppressive, horrible government and making up claims in the process, that, is blind fucking defense.
[QUOTE='[sluggo];32747615']No, he just absolutely hates anything that could possibly be related to Israel, and wants to dismiss anything that could make them look even a little bit good.[/QUOTE]
Demonstrating why your claims are deceptive and lying regarding the prisoner prisoner swaps ≠ dismissing eveything Israel does that's good.
[del]I appreciate Israel taking action on removing houses and outposts being built on private Palestinian land[/del] (Not talking about the settler territory, Israel supports them fully)
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I take that back: [URL="http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/netanyahu-seeks-to-legalize-outposts-built-on-private-palestinian-land-1.389233"]Netanyahu seeks to legalize outposts built on private Palestinian land[/URL] (10/11/11) Fuck them. Don't complain about me not lauding Israel enough when they're removing anything laudable about them, themselves.
Israel government has yet reached an agreement to exchange one soldier Shalit for hundreds of terrorists and murderers, who, no doubt, will sow "reasonable, good, eternal," and of course, take up arms again to kill Jews and kidnap soldiers ...
Shalit's family can finally rejoice.
Leftists can rejoice, because Israel releases the "freedom fighters of Palestina."
What should all the other Jews? Also rejoice or cry, realizing that the murderer released early or too late can get into their house and do something that he create with a family of Vogels from Itamar ....
So rejoice or cry?
[QUOTE=pingvin99;32756732]Israel government has yet reached an agreement to exchange one soldier Shalit for hundreds of terrorists and murderers, who, no doubt, will sow "reasonable, good, eternal," and of course, take up arms again to kill Jews and kidnap soldiers ...
Shalit's family can finally rejoice.
Leftists can rejoice, because Israel releases the "freedom fighters of Palestina."
What should all the other Jews? Also rejoice or cry, realizing that the murderer released early or too late can get into their house and do something that he create with a family of Vogels from Itamar ....
So rejoice or cry?[/QUOTE]
You really think all the Palestinian prisoners they have are murderers and terrorists?
You really think all the pikes are the fishes?
Same question.
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[QUOTE=pingvin99;32757013]You really think all the pikes are the fishes?
Same question.[/QUOTE]
Implying that Palestinian=terrorist? Great job, bigot.
[QUOTE=pingvin99;32756732]Israel government has yet reached an agreement to exchange one soldier Shalit for hundreds of terrorists and murderers, who, no doubt, will sow "reasonable, good, eternal," and of course, take up arms again to kill Jews and kidnap soldiers ...
Shalit's family can finally rejoice.
Leftists can rejoice, because Israel releases the "freedom fighters of Palestina."
What should all the other Jews? Also rejoice or cry, realizing that the murderer released early or too late can get into their house and do something that he create with a family of Vogels from Itamar ....
So rejoice or cry?[/QUOTE]
There's so much wrong in this post that my summary would be longer than the post itself
[QUOTE=Kero_;32751876]NOPE. You may have troubles understanding that, but no, not all these 1027 people are peaceful good citizens. Many of them are murderers, those who aren't are people who helped planning terrorist attacks. When the list is published you'll get things figures by yourself.[/QUOTE]
You just said 'not all'. It doesn't fucking matter. If you have innocent people in there, you're wrong.
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[QUOTE=jaykray;32752299]I don't understand what you're even trying to say here. Would you be shocked if an America defended America or a Brit defended Britain? Why is it so incredible that an Israeli would defend Israel?[/QUOTE]
I live in South Africa.
Therefore I support Apartheid and all of the horrible things my country has done!
See where you're in the wrong?
[QUOTE=Sickle;32757562]You just said 'not all'. It doesn't fucking matter. If you have innocent people in there, you're wrong.
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I live in South Africa.
Therefore I support Apartheid and all of the horrible things my country has done!
See where you're in the wrong?[/QUOTE]
At the time people supported it. Same as when America went into Iraq. Same as in Nazi Germany, I know godwin but whatever.
[QUOTE=jaykray;32758193]At the time people supported it. Same as when America went into Iraq. Same as in Nazi Germany, I know godwin but whatever.[/QUOTE]
Except all the other countries didn't. Hence sanctions/invasion/protest.
[QUOTE=Sickle;32758212]Except all the other countries didn't. Hence sanctions/invasion/protest.[/QUOTE]
Exactly, someone was defending Israel because he lived there and someone else got a bit lippy because of it. I'm just saying people anywhere in the world have defended their country during terrible things.
[QUOTE=jaykray;32758224]Exactly, someone was defending Israel because he lived there and someone else got a bit lippy because of it. I'm just saying people anywhere in the world have defended their country during terrible things.[/QUOTE]
Because they come from that country. Even so it doesn't make them right. At all.
[QUOTE=Sickle;32758242]Because they come from that country. Even so it doesn't make them right. At all.[/QUOTE]
I wasn't saying it did. I was saying that it was hardly even worth commenting about.
[QUOTE=jaykray;32758224]Exactly, someone was defending Israel because he lived there and someone else got a bit lippy because of it. I'm just saying people anywhere in the world have defended their country during terrible things.[/QUOTE]
[I]Obviously[/I]
Wasn't my point, at all.
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