• Scientists Invent Particles That Will Let You Live Without Breathing.
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[QUOTE=Key_in_skillee;36563442]What[/QUOTE] Blood with no oxygen in it is blue.
Phospholipids, why are you so awesome?
[QUOTE=Samiam22;36564034]Blood with no oxygen in it is blue.[/QUOTE]That's a myth, deoxygenated blood is a dark red, it only looks blue due to how light scatters in the skin. The more you know.
Although this provides oxygen, the body still can't expel carbon dioxide. This is probably less threatening than a cutoff from oxygen, but I'm just analyzing the situation.
If they can make it work properly on humans, it's going to be really useful for emergency rooms, paramedics and such when trying to revive people.
[QUOTE=Zoo;36564178]Although this provides oxygen, the body still can't expel carbon dioxide. This is probably less threatening than a cutoff from oxygen, but I'm just analyzing the situation.[/QUOTE] Which is why it is only good for 15 extra minutes and only one injection (also because of blood pressure, ect)
[QUOTE=Samiam22;36564034]Blood with no oxygen in it is blue.[/QUOTE] Have you ever seen blue blood?
Stupid media being misleading again. When I heard "scientist invent particles" I instantly thought about a new elementary particle or something. Why not just say a molecule or a substance? Btw I bet this is going to be used a doping. It will probably disappear from your blood quickly so it cannot be tested.
[QUOTE=Maucer;36564766]Stupid media being misleading again. When I heard "scientist invent particles" I instantly thought about a new elementary particle or something. Why not just say a molecule or a substance? Btw I bet this is going to be used a doping. It will probably disappear from your blood quickly so it cannot be tested.[/QUOTE] Because they are particles.
[QUOTE=Zoo;36564178]Although this provides oxygen, the body still can't expel carbon dioxide. This is probably less threatening than a cutoff from oxygen, but I'm just analyzing the situation.[/QUOTE] Although, assuming your lungs were functioning, you just couldn't breathe in, you would still be able to breathe out. Pointless though because it isn't meant for that.
Would be good for something such as a biological attack in gas form in the means that someone released one on the public,these could be used as a dispersal from a mask over your mouth perhaps to stop you breathing in the gas., a new future form of gas mask maybe.
I don't think this would work well for diving as breathing a nearly pure oxygen substance is not a good idea at depth. Though this is suspended in a liquid medium. I'm not really sure how it would work at pressure.
[QUOTE=Pierrewithahat;36562829]Nah we'll need liquid breathing for that, with this you would still have a big pocket of empty in your body and the oceanic pressure will still crush you without high pressure in the chest.[/QUOTE] And don't forget that our inner ear is filled with air, we need something to fill that up or our ears would implode.
[QUOTE=just-a-boy;36562907]Awesome, so theoretically, it'd be possible to stay underwater for very long periods of time by administering timely doses of oxygen (assuming the solution dissolves faster than the oxygen is consumed). Also, imagine how freaky it would be for the first time... Holding your breath for a minute underwater, feeling woozy, injecting this stuff, and within seconds feel just as if you had taken a bunch of good, deep breaths of fresh air - just without opening any airways at all.[/QUOTE] Actually the reason why your lungs hurt and you try to gasp for air when holding your breath for a long time is not because of low oxygen, but because of high CO2. You wouldn't pass out, but you'd still come up to breathe out.
I'm not 100% sure at all, but usually, when somebody dies of "natural causes", its usually seems they stop breathing (cause their lungs fail or something?). Could this be used to extend their life until another vital organ fails?
[QUOTE=Sam xD;36566730]I'm not 100% sure at all, but usually, when somebody dies of "natural causes", its usually seems they stop breathing (cause their lungs fail or something?). Could this be used to extend their life until another vital organ fails?[/QUOTE] Yes, but only for very short periods of time; making it only useful for that if they have a way to prevent or repair the failure, but not enough time to implement it.
and fat people will hog this tech the same way they hog motor carts at the grocery store [editline]30th June 2012[/editline] too fat to breathe is on the horizon people
cut down all the trees
[QUOTE=Karmah;36564437]Which is why it is only good for 15 extra minutes and only one injection (also because of blood pressure, ect)[/QUOTE]Mere minutes are the difference between life and death in the situations where this could be used.
I am having trouble processing this after the "blue blood" statement. The study was published in a journal and the doctor was a Harvard professor according to [url=http://specialists.childrenshospital.org/Default.asp?P=Y&PerPage=20&familyName=Kheir&Page=1&Sort=LastName&PageID=PHY001296] his bio[/url]. so he seems like he should be reliable. I thought human blood turning blue without O2 was a myth that most middle school students know is untrue.
I want this shit in my med bag...now!
From the title I thought they invented some particle that you could ingest/inject and you'd have no need to breath anymore. Still, I was not disappointed!
[QUOTE=-Get_A_Life-;36562787]I can see the usefulness of this when we move our asses in space. Or simply sitting in front of my computer not needing to breath.[/QUOTE] Just wait until the next Hold X and Your Breath threads
Whaat, I don't have to breath to liukgvy 7bjh
As a (combat) medic...you have no idea what the potential for this is. How much this will impact emergency medicine. It will hit us right where it needs. Currently, we can't do much to save a patient unless we can keep their airway open. This is not as easy as it sounds, especially if the patient has severe burns/burns to the respiratory system, massive facial trauma, allergic reactions, and other respiratory compromise. This is GROUNDBREAKING and the moment this set for clinical trials... I need to know about this. Once this hits the market...this is going to be my most favorite thing ever. It will change respiratory compromise from "HOLY SHIT... THEY HAVE NO FUCKING AIRWAY...STOP EVERYTHING YOU'RE DOING!" to "meh...I got some of this shit...it will buy us some time while we figure out their airway situation..." However this is not a permanent solution. As the article suggests, you can't just live off this stuff forever. It adds volume to the blood. Too much and you'll end up with a circulatory overload and you will die from that. This will also be perfect for my PT tests...
Awesome, breathing air is for weirdos anyway.
Now here's an interesting question: Which could keep you underwater for longer, a standard tank of compressed oxygen, or an IV tank of this stuff? This is ignoring the fact that long-term use of the stuff would overload you.
[QUOTE=Mind Infection;36564718]Have you ever seen blue blood?[/QUOTE] Crustaceans and cephalopods have copper instead of iron as their prosthetic group, making hemocyanin which makes their blood blue. :eng101:
This is great for choking/allergic reaction victims. That 15 min is a ton of time to clear the airways.
[QUOTE=imptastick;36567900]I am having trouble processing this after the "blue blood" statement. The study was published in a journal and the doctor was a Harvard professor according to [url=http://specialists.childrenshospital.org/Default.asp?P=Y&PerPage=20&familyName=Kheir&Page=1&Sort=LastName&PageID=PHY001296] his bio[/url]. so he seems like he should be reliable. I thought human blood turning blue without O2 was a myth that most middle school students know is untrue.[/QUOTE] I think they might just be using slang, I've heard the term "blue blood" used before just to denote deoxygenated blood, even though it isn't really blue.
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