[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;19989242]Obviously they have evidence.
I don't know about you but I'm actually not a NASA scientist so I don't know what they're up to.
However, I'm sure they have a way to do everything.
As nickholus said before, Sagan briefing worked on terraforming, and wrote a paper on terraforming venus.[/QUOTE]
nickholus is a flaming heterosexual.
no they don't. otherwise columbus never wouldn't been blown up.
And all Sagan provided was bullcrap with hypothetical evidence instead of real ones.
One question for you sloppy
If we can't fix ourselves and ultimately have to abandon because we can't survive it, what makes you think we won't do it to our new planet?
[QUOTE=lolwutdude;19989268]nickholus is a flaming heterosexual.
no they don't. otherwise columbus never wouldn't been blown up.
And all Sagan provided was bullcrap with hypothetical evidence instead of real ones.
One question for you sloppy
If we can't fix ourselves and ultimately have to abandon because we can't survive it, what makes you think we won't do it to our new planet?[/QUOTE]
We will.
However, it gives us a new temporary location to live in.
[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;19989291]We will.
However, it gives us a new temporary location to live in.[/QUOTE]
[B]EXACTLY[/B].
What you're suggesting is a substitute.
We need a [b]solution[/b]. Running away in space from our problems won't solve jack shit.
Good.
Fuck the moon.
[QUOTE=lolwutdude;19989312][B]EXACTLY[/B].
What you're suggesting is a substitute.
We need a [B]solution[/B]. Running away in space from our problems won't solve jack shit.[/QUOTE]
It's a longer lasting solution.
Earth will eventually be uninhabitable, so we need a new place to live.
This is the distance future though, it's possible that by then people will have reduced their waste and pollution to a level where the planet isn't destroyed.
[QUOTE=Lankist;19981879]exactly where we are now with less useless-ass moon rocks.[/QUOTE]
Mars rocks. :eng101:
[QUOTE=lolwutdude;19989268]nickholus is a flaming heterosexual.
no they don't. otherwise columbus never wouldn't been blown up.
And all Sagan provided was bullcrap with hypothetical evidence instead of real ones.
One question for you sloppy
If we can't fix ourselves and ultimately have to abandon because we can't survive it, what makes you think we won't do it to our new planet?[/QUOTE]
Holy Jesus.
You're argument is just one fat faggot fallacy.
We have evidence that we can explore other bodies of mass. For example, WE WENT TO THE MOON. There are methods of growing gardens indoors. Developing a space house isn't a far-off concept, if you think it is you're a monkey.
One question for you dude
Can you make a question that makes sense?
Mr. Obama, I now oficially regret voting for you >:|
[QUOTE=nickohlus;19989393]Holy Jesus.
You're argument is just one fat faggot fallacy.
We have evidence that we can explore other bodies of mass. For example, WE WENT TO THE MOON. There are methods of growing gardens indoors. Developing a space house isn't a far-off concept, if you think it is you're a monkey.
One question for you dude
Can you make a question that makes sense?[/QUOTE]
Jesus doesn't exist. You mad, son, you maaad.
Your arguments is a just two faggots doing each other in the ass in the Superbowl with Colts and Saints looking on.
Duh. We have no evidence we can terraform and colonize.
One question for you dude
Can you make a statement that isn't retard like Emperor Scorpinous on anything liberal?
[QUOTE=lolwutdude;19989492]Jesus doesn't exist. You mad, son, you maaad.
Your arguments is a just two faggots doing each other in the ass in the Superbowl with Colts and Saints looking on.
Duh. We have no evidence we can terraform and colonize.
One question for you dude
Can you make a statement that isn't retard like Emperor Scorpinous on anything liberal?[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I know Jesus doesn't exist. There's hardly any proof "he" existed ever.
Alllllllllll of the validity of space exploration aside, why should we delve into the budget of THIS organization? Why not our war budget? It's dumb dude.
[QUOTE=Lankist;19981773]Good.
Space is stupid.[/QUOTE]
what
[QUOTE=nickohlus;19989544]Yeah, I know Jesus doesn't exist. There's hardly any proof "he" existed ever.
Alllllllllll of the validity of space exploration aside, why should we delve into the budget of THIS organization? Why not our war budget? It's dumb dude.[/QUOTE]
These war budgets isn't just to create new weapons. All these benefits joining the army, such as college, healthcare, and etc. is paid for by the military budget. So is maintaining all military equipment and etc. They should trim down the budget some more though.
Besides, we the king of all countries son, dont fuck wit us.
[QUOTE=lolwutdude;19989589]These war budgets isn't just to create new weapons. All these benefits joining the army, such as college, healthcare, and etc. is paid for by the military budget. So is maintaining all military equipment and etc. They should trim down the budget some more though.
Besides, we the king of all countries son, dont fuck wit us.[/QUOTE]
lol, gross debt 10 tirllion dollars, we suck
[QUOTE=nickohlus;19989704]lol, gross debt 10 tirllion dollars, we suck[/QUOTE]
10 trillion dollars we'll never pay back
fuck you economy
we defy it
cause we're americans
number 1
anywa, guess I won this debate
im out
[QUOTE=lolwutdude;19989589]These war budgets isn't just to create new weapons. All these benefits joining the army, such as college, healthcare, and etc. is paid for by the military budget. So is maintaining all military equipment and etc. They should trim down the budget some more though.
Besides, we the king of all countries son, dont fuck wit us.[/QUOTE]
Nukes are what prevent people from attacking you.
You could have an army with 10 people in it, and still no one would atatck.
[QUOTE=Lankist;19981773]Good.
Space is stupid.[/QUOTE]
I agree.
Let's fix up our own place first.
[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;19989725]Nukes are what prevent people from attacking you.
You could have an army with 10 people in it, and still no one would atatck.[/QUOTE]
the chinese would
OP, add this to OP.
Deputy Administrator Lori Garver and NASA chief financial officer Elizabeth Robinson said in a telephone conference call that JSC will continue as the critical leader for human spaceflight over the next decade.
The loss of the Constellation program would be offset by the president's proposed five-year extension of International Space Station operations, a 42 percent increase in spending for biomedical research for long-duration human space flight and harnessing robotic tools for human use in space.
“We're certainly not canceling our ambitions to explore space — we're canceling Constellation,” said Garver, a former NASA official during the Clinton administration who advised the Obama campaign on space policy. “The NASA centers are the crown jewels of the agency and will all continue to thrive.”
Officials described millions of dollars in proposed new spending to refurbish NASA space flight centers in Texas, Florida and Alabama as part of a plan to add $6 billion to boost total NASA spending to $100 billion over the next five years. The administration request for biomedical research on humans in space alone rose from $151.5 million this year to $215 million next year.
[url]http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/hotstories/6846399.html[/url]
[QUOTE=Lankist;19981781]spoiler alert: there is nothing of value on mars[/QUOTE]
yes there is the technology of the protheans! ;D element zero so we can access the relays and become part of galactic community!
but anyway
FUCKING Now my dreams of space travel is even more delayed-_-
[QUOTE=adadr;19989422]Mr. Obama, I now oficially regret voting for you >:|[/QUOTE]
[img]http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/5450/scarebama.jpg[/img]
Think about it. Your paying NASA to look at stars
[QUOTE=nickohlus;19989544]Yeah, I know Jesus doesn't exist. There's hardly any proof "he" existed ever.
Alllllllllll of the validity of space exploration aside, why should we delve into the budget of THIS organization? Why not our war budget? It's dumb dude.[/QUOTE]
Nobody's delving in to their budget, it's being increased.
[QUOTE=lolwutdude;19988496][B] HOW.[/B]. Give me a proof that NASA said we can colonize planets. Go ahead, give me a link that says having us send people to a desolate wasteland for nine months is worth it.
I keep how we can get innovations from colonizing planets when we won't even reach that in our lifetime. How the fuck are we going to turn a lack of oxygen duststorm planet into a habitable one?
This isn't god damn video game. You can't just click "SPACE COLONIZATION" button then wait 5 minutes for it to finish and you can instantly colonize planets. It doesn't work that way. Let me guess, you find Hearts of Iron a very good simulation of WW2?
No, re-read it. I said it wasn't human nature to have world and outstanding peace, we'll always war over the stupidest thing.
And holy shit, you did not just insult our awesome explorers. Are you implying our explorers were retards? They had a [B]theory[/B] that just because an ocean stands between their continents didn't necessary mean everything is different. He thought that because anyone who wasn't a crazy Christian knew that this whole fractured country was in one place, therefore habitable like his country.
Everything is different in space. It takes way longer to travel there, almost impossible to colonize (there's a reason why our Rover didn't find shit by the way), and impossible NOT to have a logistical nightmare.
You have no evidence or proof for anything you practically said.
[B]Back it up, show me official links from official non-crazy scientists that says we CAN colonize planets and get innovation[/B].[/QUOTE]
[url]http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/big-idea/07/mars[/url]
[QUOTE=Lankist;19981781]spoiler alert: there is nothing of value on mars[/QUOTE]
Do you know how Iron rich mars is?
[QUOTE=Kyle902;19993339]Do you know how Iron rich mars is?[/QUOTE]
yes we are in desperate need of iron right now we are just running so low on iron here its all over the news
Who gives a shit about some sandy place where we know isn't anything interesting, and spending 9bn bawx on it. Spend it on exploring the outer universe or shit.
[QUOTE=Lankist;19982761]Pretty sure internet and computers were on their way to fruition before we ever even set our sights on the moon.[/QUOTE]
ARPAnet was created after JFK's "MOOOOOOOOOOOOON!" speech.
[QUOTE=T2L_Goose;19981888]We should just leave space exploration to the private sector.[/QUOTE]
I was thinking about this last night but there's just no fucking way the private sector could get the kind of money government space agencies get.
[QUOTE=Swebonny;19981844]Leave space to the [B]Corporations[/B][/QUOTE]
Fixed! :science:
Man who cares there's nothing on the moon except rocks and dust
It's a pretty shitty planet
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