Oh shit, this reminds me of the reason why Gordon Freeman joined Black Mesa.
I wonder how feasible it would be to construct an observatory on the moon.
[QUOTE=Lankist;19982749]Name a technology that couldn't have been made or replicated here on Earth.[/QUOTE]
astronaut ice cream
You know, like water, useful metals and breathable air.
[QUOTE=Jund;19982762]There are so many natural resources on Mars I'm positively tripping over them.[/QUOTE]
You can't say that because you haven't been there.
[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;19982767]God damn, Lankist is in full-on mean drunk mode in this thread.
"you think space is important, fuck you sociopath war criminal kid"[/QUOTE]
Garrus died in the end of my save so I am legitimately pissed.
[QUOTE=Lankist;19982761]Pretty sure internet and computers were on their way to fruition before we ever even set our sights on the moon.[/QUOTE]
funfact, people were terrified of space for the longest time. Especially mars.
Holy crap, I don't post for 5 seconds and my automerge gets broken by 7 posts.
[QUOTE=Lankist;19982591]I would rather we stop people from starving instead of spending so much goddamn money on a whole bunch of nothing.
Stop trying to fabricate mutually exclusive options to put words into my mouth. I said what I goddamn mean.[/QUOTE]
A whole bunch of nothing?
If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, if you teach a man to fish, you feed him for life.
Except most of the places that have starving people have horrible soil, suffer from droughts or cannot be farmed for some other reason.
So basically if you put money into feeding the third world, you'll never actually feed them since you'll continually have to put money in to prevent them from starving.
However, with space, you might able to colonize other planets and bring food back.
Or have people move out of Earth and turn all these major cities into farmland.
[QUOTE=Armotekma;19982778]like what? spending 20b on a third world country will get us somewhere? sure people can sleep better at night and people won't be starving but it does absolutely nothing for us. you say going to the moon is a waste since it generates nothing, and we can use it to build an infastructure which will also generate nothing for us[/QUOTE]
helping humans?
egads
fuck that
[QUOTE=Armotekma;19982778]sure people can sleep better at night and people won't be starving but it does absolutely nothing for us.[/QUOTE]
uhh except for keeping people from starving and ending mass death
what you only help people if they're going to blow you afterward?
[QUOTE=Armotekma;19982778]like what? spending 20b on a third world country will get us somewhere? sure people can sleep better at night and people won't be starving but it does absolutely nothing for us. you say going to the moon is a waste since it generates nothing, and we can use it to build an infastructure which will also generate nothing for us[/QUOTE]
If you have 6,000 million well educated people working on science stuff day in day out, were are going to be able to improve technology a lot quicker and better than if it was just Western scientists.
[QUOTE=Lankist;19982749]Name a technology that couldn't have been made or replicated here on Earth.[/QUOTE]
That's not what I'm saying at all. I'm saying that research in computers and communication was accelerated because of the space race. Without it, we'd probably still get to where we are today, but several years in the future.
[QUOTE=Lankist;19982818]uhh except for keeping people from starving and ending mass death
what you only help people if they're going to blow you afterward?[/QUOTE]
but then what
[QUOTE=radioactive;19982793]You can't say that because you haven't been there.[/QUOTE]
I haven't, but plenty of rovers have.
[QUOTE=Lankist;19982818]uhh except for keeping people from starving and ending mass death
what you only help people if they're going to blow you afterward?[/QUOTE]
bunch of pansy commie bullshit is more like it
im Armotekma
[QUOTE=Zeke129;19982838]That's not what I'm saying at all. I'm saying that research in computers and communication was accelerated because of the space race. Without it, we'd probably still get to where we are today, but several years in the future.[/QUOTE]
all of that technology was developed here, on Earth. the idea of going to the moon was the catalyst, but the actual act of going to the moon accomplished nothing.
[QUOTE=Lankist;19982749]Name a technology that couldn't have been made or replicated here on Earth.[/QUOTE]
We haven't found any since we have barely left our little planet.
We went around our moon, oh great.
I'm sure if people live on another planet, you'll find tons of things that can only be made there.
[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;19982813]A whole bunch of nothing?
If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, if you teach a man to fish, you feed him for life.
Except most of the places that have starving people have horrible soil, suffer from droughts or cannot be farmed for some other reason.
So basically if you put money into feeding the third world, you'll never actually feed them since you'll continually have to put money in to prevent them from starving.
However, with space, you might able to colonize other planets and bring food back.
Or have people move out of Earth and turn all these major cities into farmland.[/QUOTE]
No.
[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydroponics]Allow me to introduce you to a great technology which is going to help us a lot in the future[/url]
[QUOTE=Armotekma;19982847]but then what[/QUOTE]
what the fuck do you mean?
"then what" as in what do we do after we fix our shit here on Earth?
We make shit better and THEN worry about space, that's what.
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[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;19982813]A whole bunch of nothing?
If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, if you teach a man to fish, you feed him for life.
Except most of the places that have starving people have horrible soil, suffer from droughts or cannot be farmed for some other reason.
So basically if you put money into feeding the third world, you'll never actually feed them since you'll continually have to put money in to prevent them from starving.
However, with space, you might able to colonize other planets and bring food back.
Or have people move out of Earth and turn all these major cities into farmland.[/QUOTE]
yeah why should we save people from starvation and genocide. They should learn to not-die on their own.
[QUOTE=Jund;19982855]I haven't, but plenty of rovers have.[/QUOTE]
Yes because a machine is a qualified rock sampler and analyser.
[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;19982407]go at it with a shovel[/QUOTE] It's wrong i laughed right?
[QUOTE=Lankist;19982749]Name a technology that couldn't have been made or replicated here on Earth.[/QUOTE]
Your logic is flawed. I could explain what came out of NASA's race to the moon, the immence technological advancements and materials developed during that time, but it's already been done and you obviously don't care.
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[QUOTE=radioactive;19982891]Yes because a machine is a qualified rock sampler and analyser.[/QUOTE]
and it knows how to magically get thousands of tons of raw materials to break the escape velocity of Mars, safely travel millions of kilometers back to Earth, and then land safely.
[QUOTE=mzathemind;19982905]It's wrong i laughed right?[/QUOTE]
Not really, it's only wrong to laugh if you're watching the images of the piles of dead Jews in the Nazi Concentration Camps.
[QUOTE=Madman_Andre;19982916]Your logic is flawed. I could explain what came out of NASA's race to the moon, but it's already been done and you obviously don't care.[/QUOTE]
No it isn't.
The space race was a catalyst for advancement, not the cause for advancement. We developed every technology from that era here, on Earth. Going to the moon did nothing.
[QUOTE=Lankist;19982860]all of that technology was developed here, on Earth. the idea of going to the moon was the catalyst, but the actual act of going to the moon accomplished nothing.[/QUOTE]
It gave us a reason to develop that technology. Perhaps if we set ourselves another goal (such as, reaching Mars) we'd discover more new technology in the process.
And hey, who knows what technology designed to be used on Mars could also be used in third-world countries. Both can be pretty inhospitable places so what could help the astronauts could possibly help the people in Africa or whatever.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;19982941]It gave us a reason to develop that technology. Perhaps if we set ourselves another goal (such as, reaching Mars) we'd discover more new technology in the process.
And hey, who knows what technology designed to be used on Mars could also be used in third-world countries. Both can be pretty inhospitable places so what could help the astronauts could possibly help the people in Africa or whatever.[/QUOTE]
That is redundant. We have plenty of reasons to develop new technologies.
End starvation.
End disease.
Uplift third world nations.
Make technology more accessible.
If there is such a shortage of practical applications that you need to bullshit yourself into an excuse to make something, it isn't worth making.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;19982941]It gave us a reason to develop that technology. Perhaps if we set ourselves another goal (such as, reaching Mars) we'd discover more new technology in the process.
And hey, who knows what technology designed to be used on Mars could also be used in third-world countries. Both can be pretty inhospitable places so what could help the astronauts could possibly help the people in Africa or whatever.[/QUOTE]
War does that too.
Okay, do you know how much money it would take to colonize a planet? Especially one with barely anything humans can live on? We would have to magically pull new technologies out of our ass and gather enough people and resources [i]from Earth[/i] to send to the planet and [i]still[/i] have to send periodic shipments to the planet THROUGH FREAKING SPACE.
And for what? A barely functioning colony? I'm not saying that space colonization is a bad thing, but I don't see the reasoning as to why everyone get so upset over if it gets delayed a little bit. For now, colonization isn't even [i]practical[/i], there's nothing to really gain from it. Stop thinking using sci-fi mentality and start thinking with your brains.
[QUOTE=Lankist;19982876]
yeah why should we save people from starvation and genocide. They should learn to not-die on their own.[/QUOTE]
They've survived this long, and even though they are starving they continue to overpopulate and give birth to children who will become starving.
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