[QUOTE=Xenomoose;51780820]So I'm the only one here thinking "honeypot"? It's hard to believe the people behind a DRM that took ages to crack would would leave this kind of shit exposed. Granted, I don't know what sort of endgoal they'd be working towards to do something like this, but god damn does this smell fishy to me.[/QUOTE]
There are E-mails and phone numbers in the leaked log that would violate the EU laws of data protection.
Heck, I even confronted a victim of this and told him how his password got compromised.
[url]http://imgur.com/a/GcsLz[/url]
Gallery of that entire powerpoint
is there a way to embed the whole thing?
[QUOTE=Jelman;51780866][url]http://imgur.com/gallery/iQ0dG[/url]
Gallery of that entire powerpoint
is there a way to embed the whole thing?[/QUOTE]
Can you upload to pomf.is? Imgur is removing those images.
[QUOTE=RockyTV;51780889]Can you upload to pomf.is? Imgur is removing those images.[/QUOTE]
I removed them myself and then reuploaded. Should work now, can still reupload to pomf.is if you want
wait do they want to put denuvo with HDCP or something? they can fuck right off
boasting about those 272 days is amazing when we have denuvo games that have been cracked in about 1 ~week
[QUOTE=Jelman;51780901]I removed them myself and then reuploaded. Should work now, can still reupload to pomf.is if you want[/QUOTE]
It's 404ing... I'd like to see the powerpoint :P
[QUOTE=RockyTV;51780913]It's 404ing... I'd like to see the powerpoint :P[/QUOTE]
[url]http://imgur.com/a/GcsLz[/url]
[QUOTE=J!NX;51780909]boasting about those 272 days is amazing when we have denuvo games that have been cracked in about 1 ~week[/QUOTE]
You mean a game. Only RE7 got cracked within the first week, all other games took quite a while.
[QUOTE=simkas;51780920]You mean a game. Only RE7 got cracked within the first week, all other games took quite a while.[/QUOTE]
It's gradual.
Don't act surprised when an upcoming game gets cracked within the first 48 hours.
On reddit and /v/ there were a few people saying that due to some of the website's setup being outdated and thus vulnerable to certain exploits, and as such that it's quite possible that someone's already made off with all of their files.
Who knows, maybe one of the big cracking groups will finally manage to crack Denuvo overall.
[QUOTE=J!NX;51780909]boasting about those 272 days is amazing when we have denuvo games that have been cracked in about 1 ~week[/QUOTE]
Look at the date on the power point.
[QUOTE=J!NX;51780909]boasting about those 272 days is amazing when we have denuvo games that have been cracked in about 1 ~week[/QUOTE]
It's probably not been updating to reflect that yet.
Y'know, because press packs don't get updated the same instant something is broken. God knows how old that particular presentation actually is (has anyone actually confirmed the creation date?).
Well they had a good run if anything actual critical to their software was leaked here. A majority of their protected games, films, etc. went uncracked after all. Anti-tamper worked for what it needed to at the very least. Not the longest run, but a fairly solid track record.
What a mess.
[editline]5th February 2017[/editline]
[QUOTE=GhillieBacca;51780939]It's gradual.
Don't act surprised when an upcoming game gets cracked within the first 48 hours.[/QUOTE]
If what we know about Denuvo is correct. It's not even "gradual" in the slightest. If so, after cracking RE7 the entire back catalogue should have been blown open.
It appears to be entirely down to how the game developer themselves implement Denuvo. If they don't take the necessary steps to ensure the encryption keys for the obfuscating components of Denuvo are kept safe it's going to be about as secure as just not using it.
[url]http://imgur.com/a/dOoLb[/url]
Heres the contents of insider_prot
some advertising shit with software that takes up 400mb to display images
[QUOTE=Saxon;51780908]wait do they want to put denuvo with HDCP or something? they can fuck right off[/QUOTE]
[URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-bandwidth_Digital_Content_Protection#Problems"]Display DRM[/URL], just what every consumer wanted /s
[QUOTE=Megaman1811;51780629]So a DRM company is using different DRM on their DRM?
:incredible:[/QUOTE]
Denuvo is made by Denuvo Software Solutions, they formed though the buyout of Sony DADC, the creators of Securom
This information is readily available on wikipedia
Edit; and on the powerpoint in this thread
I actually understand the point of Denuvo and I think it's fine that companies want to use it. The only people who really complain about the program are people who pirate games. However, I also see how pointless this is and I really wish companies would stop wasting time and money on DRM instead of just using those funds to better their program/game. If you put shit on the internet and it doesn't require an always online connection to a server (and sometimes even then) it WILL BE CRACKED. There is no if and or buts about it and there is a reason that even Denuvo, the DRM that people thought would be the end of piracy has just become a joke.
I have to give kudos to Denuvo for lasting as long as they did to be honest. I do truly think this will probably be the nail in their coffin though.
I've actually seen a minor push towards the only online nonsense and I would actually stop buying and playing any new games that do this. If there is one thing that does piss me off, it's extreme measures taken in response to something that the poor little companies don't like. It is the only DRM that actually works and frankly I also think it would kill the gaming industry.
[QUOTE=~Kiwi~v2;51781204]This isn't just about pirates complaining. It's modders too because Denuvo Drm can encrypt game files not just the EXE file. And not everyone has an always online connection. Some people just wanna download their game, go off line and play.[/QUOTE]Doesn't it make sense that the game files themselves would be encrypted too with DRM? I know that goes against modders but I feel there could be a middle ground where the encryption from the normal game files is removed after a certain point of game release time so that modders can get to work.
After you play the game in Steam, I believe you can play it when you go offline, even with Denuvo.
First launch yes, but I'm pretty sure after that launch you can play it offline forever. I played DoW2 for a good 2 months after I lost internet for 6 or so.
Fair enough to the second point. I'm just trying to find a middle ground for developers and players/modders.
[QUOTE=Van-man;51781080][URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-bandwidth_Digital_Content_Protection#Problems"]Display DRM[/URL], just what every consumer wanted /s[/QUOTE]
HDCP is a massive headache, its honestly the worst DRM I've ever encountered
Have fun trying to figure out why you can't get 4k video playback, meanwhile my monitors will randomly flicker on and off with video playback because of an HDCP failure from a driver bug. I wonder if a 2.2 stripper will fix it.
I'm curious what this will mean for the company itself. Like, what sort of data has been leaked? Have identities been compromised due to this gross fuckup on their part?
Is the actual DRM itself that they primarily exist for still secure, or has it leaked too? I'm really interested in seeing where this goes. I'm not all that good with the software aspect of computers, so I dunno if I could really decipher anything from the files.
The little power point presentation, I want to know how they plan on stopping stuff from leaking. E-Books are literally just text. I could grab a few pages from an E-Book and paste them into Pastebin, or upload a .txt file on a bunch of pirating websites. Videos you could just snap into fullscreen, use FRAPS or some other recording software and upload that. There's capture cards that record shit in 4K if you're really fixing on quality.
[QUOTE=JerryAnderson;51781440]I'm curious what this will mean for the company itself. Like, what sort of data has been leaked? Have identities been compromised due to this gross fuckup on their part?
Is the actual DRM itself that they primarily exist for still secure, or has it leaked too? I'm really interested in seeing where this goes. I'm not all that good with the software aspect of computers, so I dunno if I could really decipher anything from the files.
The little power point presentation, I want to know how they plan on stopping stuff from leaking. E-Books are literally just text. I could grab a few pages from an E-Book and paste them into Pastebin, or upload a .txt file on a bunch of pirating websites. Videos you could just snap into fullscreen, use FRAPS or some other recording software and upload that. There's capture cards that record shit in 4K if you're really fixing on quality.[/QUOTE]
It depends on what is actually in there to be honest. The EMail stuff could probably be seen as a breach of data protection in any countries they have an office that have such protection acts. The press packs aren't exactly the end of the world, it's just marketing filler after all.
It's highly unlikely the code or other core components of the anti-tamper were on a simple fileserver. They'll be stashed away on some kind of version control repository such as Git, which should be hosted by itself to prevent unauthorised access. What would be interesting is if there were any pieces of internal documentation around, whitepapers, etc. that might explain how it works.
If it works how a lot of people are suspecting, it'd still be somewhat secure with the leaks due to the nature of cryptography. As long as their implementation of any encryption or obfusication algorithms weren't actually weak themselves.
[QUOTE=duckmaster;51780829]I still don't understand the flack Denuvo gets beside the obvious inability to create a secure website.[/QUOTE]
[URL="https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1550724"]Here's a link to the last thread about Denuvo[/URL] (in which the pro DRM people suddenly disappeared) which should probably answer that.
I'm linking it to avoid shitting up this thread.
[QUOTE=~Kiwi~v2;51781204]This isn't just about pirates complaining. It's modders too because Denuvo Drm can encrypt game files not just the EXE file. And not everyone has an always online connection. Some people just wanna download their game, go off line and play.[/QUOTE]
But Denuvo doesn't require an internet connection?
At least four hours since this thread was created and it's still up. Are they all asleep or something?
[QUOTE=st_nick5;51781554]At least four hours since this thread was created and it's still up. Are they all asleep or something?[/QUOTE]
It would be funny If they all came back to work tomorrow, sees the News and is like "WHAT THE FUCK, BOB WHY DID YOU LEAVE THIS SHIT UNPROTECTED!?"
[QUOTE=~Kiwi~v2;51781204]This isn't just about pirates complaining. It's modders too because Denuvo Drm can encrypt game files not just the EXE file. And not everyone has an always online connection. Some people just wanna download their game, go off line and play.[/QUOTE]
The executable being encrypted is a pain in the ass for certain types of mods anyways.
Why is this blowing up all of a sudden? I remember seeing a reddit reply that linked to that URL a month ago
So why does everyone hate denuvo again? The SSD claims have been disproven many times, what else have they done that's bad? I have played a few denuvo games and they appeared to perform fine?
[QUOTE=rampageturke 2;51781754]So why does everyone hate denuvo again? The SSD claims have been disproven many times, what else have they done that's bad? I have played a few denuvo games and they appeared to perform fine?[/QUOTE]
The main issue with DRM is that when you're legitimately buying a game its a bit of a shame to have DRM in it
I'm not sure if this is the case for Denuvo, however people dislike DRM because of how intrusive and inconvenient it is compared to non drm or even just pirating it. Sure, piracy is rarely caused to counter DRM, but people just don't buy DRM games.
Just look at UPlay or GFWL. You're forced to use a completely secondary platform just to play the game, which requires registration and even online connections.
Then look at Sim city. You're forced to play with a connection for an otherwise very single player game.
There is also HDCP which has been known to fuck users over just because they don't have a "legitimate" "HD screen". If your 4k TV bugs out you can't watch any HDCP content.
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