[QUOTE=rampageturke 2;51785333]you have no idea what you're talking about, none of that means it is a refurbished securom[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=bunguer;51785300]That doesn't mean it's actually based, or even similar, to SecuROM. SecuROM used actual exploits on the OS to do its dirty work which is a completely different approach from VM obfuscation which is what Denuvo seems to use.[/QUOTE]
I know the guy above the post was claiming that it was a refurbished SecuROM and I wasn't trying to back that point up, just saying that some of the same people are involved. Was more me misunderstanding the question.
With regards to the screenshot, I was just saying that their introduction powerpoint thing is protected by SecuROM.
[QUOTE=Rika-chan;51785504]That point is bullshit because that is the case with 99% of steam games with or without denuvo. Very few games allow you to play without being signed in to your steam account.[/QUOTE]
while the ethics behind it is very debatable, being able to remove the official steam implementation for a third party one does exist, this even includes achievements
[QUOTE=Cushie;51785546]I know the guy above the post was claiming that it was a refurbished SecuROM and I wasn't trying to back that point up, just saying that some of the same people are involved. Was more me misunderstanding the question.
With regards to the screenshot, I was just saying that their introduction powerpoint thing is protected by SecuROM.[/QUOTE]
The Ebook thats 400mb also is protected by SecuROM.
And the Ebook is for SonyDADC which is what lead to the formation of Denuvo.
Related:
[vid]https://puu.sh/tRmfh/2272a5e34e.mp4[/vid]
nice drm
My main pet peeve with Denuvo is that it doesn't work on Wine. Thanks to it being removed DOOM now runs more-or-less fine on Wine.
[QUOTE=J!NX;51781941]Can anyone elaborate on what this means?
and if the rest is true then that's actually very shit[/QUOTE]
Well, if you can't get into your account, then you can't play your steam games. That's just how Steam works. Now, as has been pointed out, this is technically a general Steam thing, not a Denuvo thing.
The difference being you can just crack your Steam games. Cracking Steam is incredibly easy. Denuvo, on the other hand, is a huge pain to crack, and most games still aren't. So, if you had bought Just Cause 3 at some point but then lost the account, you can't play it. And unless it gets cracked, if Steam shuts down some 10 years or whatever from now, it'll just be completely unplayable for everyone on PC from then on.
As for the other points, they're all more or less accurate. Denuvo doesn't work with Wine or Linux. Some games just release a DRM free Linux version, every other game is unplayable on Linux. And Denuvo does require an occasional internet reactivation. It's kind of unclear how long exactly it needs between reactivations, some people theorize it might be random because there have been cases of it requiring it after a week, but also of not requiring them after about a month.
[QUOTE=krosos8;51788545]My main pet peeve with Denuvo is that it doesn't work on Wine. Thanks to it being removed DOOM now runs more-or-less fine on Wine.[/QUOTE]
as long as denuvo doesn't exploit windows vulnerabilities - it WILL run on wine eventually. It's just the effort people put in that's stopping it from running. Look at Overwatch; it has some of the most advanced fuckery on the client for antidebugging and antitampering/hacking yet still got on wine eventually.
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