That's horrible.
I sure hope the kid wasn't decapitated while he was alive.
Sometimes I really hate people.
[QUOTE=Lord of Awesome;31757894]White. Why does it matter? He cut his disabled son's head off and left it in front of his wife's house to leave a message. Ethnicity doesn't factor in here.[/QUOTE]
look im not racist but statistically black people are more likely to cut the heads off of their disabled 2nd graders and put them on the sidewalk
not racist, just fact
Sometimes, I think that there are certain cases where an eye for an eye would be the right option.
Sure
Murder them to show them it's wrong to murder
That'll show them
Wow, I could understand not wanting to have the responsibility anymore, but brutally murdering him?
[QUOTE=Ond kaja;31758794]Sure
Murder them to show them it's wrong to murder
That'll show them[/QUOTE]
That's not really the point,by giving him a death penalty we could prevent him from doing similar things in future....
[QUOTE=Lambeth;31758677]He better go through rehabilitation and then get reintroduced back into society as a man able to give back to the community.
he fucking better[/QUOTE]
"Hello, I am Jonathan and I decapitated my son but it's okay because I'm a changed man."
What kind of ass-backwards society would allow that.
...Or did I miss your sarcasm.
Reading this really made me sad...
And the fact that it even brought experienced police officers to tears makes it even worse. :(
There is a concept called "rehabilitation". Are familiar with it?
I came into the thread expecting Facepunch to show it's soft mushy side.
Nope.
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What kind of ass-backwards society would allow that.
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a civilised one?
[QUOTE=Lord of Awesome;31757771]"He said when he put his head out by the side of the road it was so the mother would see it when she came by," Silverii said. He said Wright's only explanation for doing so was "just that he wanted her to feel stupid when she saw the head."[/QUOTE]
What the fucking fuck jesus christ!
[QUOTE=nox;31758882]What kind of ass-backwards society would allow that.
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norway maybe
[QUOTE=Sanius;31758958]a civilised one?[/QUOTE]
And what happens when some shitty rehab doesn't cut it and someone goes nuts again and starts murdering people? Wasted money, time and more innocent lives.
[QUOTE=znk666;31758861]That's not really the point,by giving him a death penalty we could prevent him from doing similar things in future....[/QUOTE]
Do you seriously think he would do this again if he was allowed to live on? I'm sure this man feels regretful about what he did and I doubt he's someone that just loves to kill people. Just because somebody killed someone doesn't mean they're bloodthirsty cannibals that want to kill everything they see. Just send him to jail for a while.
[QUOTE=nox;31759184]And what happens when some shitty rehab doesn't cut it and someone goes nuts again and starts murdering people? Wasted money, time and more innocent lives.[/QUOTE]
what happens if they don't go nuts a second time
[QUOTE=SoaringScout;31759227]Do you seriously think he would do this again if he was allowed to live on? I'm sure this man feels regretful about what he did and I doubt he's someone that just loves to kill people. Just because somebody killed someone doesn't mean they're bloodthirsty cannibals that want to kill everything they see. Just send him to jail for a while.[/QUOTE]I see your point but unfortunately there are too many people with the mindsets in which they believe that if a killer walks free that the price is not that much to pay. Thus this would inadvertently lead to a few more criminal acts in the future, murder or not. it's not so much stopping HIM from killing again, but by killing him you create a temporary climate of criminal intolerance.
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It really boils down to minimalizing crime at all ends.
This person is a monster, the ordeal the child went through was horrifying. I am physically sickened by this.
It's also going to be lovely reading the posts that deny justice in any way possible, not even the death penalty, but life in prison too.
Ohshit.. I'm a monster..
I read "seasoned officers" and licked my lips.. then I saw "this takes the cake." and I moaned a hungry moan..
[QUOTE=Lambeth;31759241]what happens if they don't go nuts a second time[/QUOTE]
That's the idea I hope. Do you think the idea would be supported anymore if so much as one rehabbed killer killed again?
wow, what a sadistic son of a bitch. let's fucking torture him and kill him, to show him how NORMAL people act!
[editline]16th August 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Xion12;31758752]Sometimes, I think that there are certain cases where an eye for an eye would be the right option.[/QUOTE]
and this isn't one of them!
[QUOTE=MutantBadger;31759268]I see your point but unfortunately there are too many people with the mindsets in which they believe that if a killer walks free that the price is not that much to pay. Thus this would inadvertently lead to a few more criminal acts in the future, murder or not. it's not so much stopping HIM from killing again, but by killing him you create a temporary climate of criminal intolerance.
[editline]16th August 2011[/editline]
It really boils down to minimalizing crime at all ends.[/QUOTE]
You really think someone who DECAPITATES a child (A CHILD!) who has a condition such as Cerebral Palsy for the reason, "to make my wife feel [i]stupid[/i]" is able to be rehabilitated?!
No. He is not.
Some people can be rehabilitated. This man is a sociopath - an absolute monster - he can not. There is no way in hell you can rehabilitate somebody who is that far gone or messed up. He physically doesn't possess the brain chemistry or neurological make-up to ever be anything other than a monster if he's capable of doing something this fucked up for a reason so petty.
[quote]Despite his challenges, she said she never felt her son was disabled.[/quote]
Wow, then it's true that she neglected her son to the point where she didn't even really know him.
[QUOTE=sltungle;31759784]You really think someone who DECAPITATES a child (A CHILD!) who has a condition such as Cerebral Palsy for the reason, "to make my wife feel [i]stupid[/i]" is able to be rehabilitated?!
No. He is not.
Some people can be rehabilitated. This man is a sociopath - an absolute monster - he can not. There is no way in hell you can rehabilitate somebody who is that far gone or messed up. He physically doesn't possess the brain chemistry or neurological make-up to ever be anything other than a monster if he's capable of doing something this fucked up for a reason so petty.[/QUOTE]
you're right. this guy is clearly incapable of functioning in society right now, and is likely severely deranged. hey wait, don't we have places we can take people with mental disorders to get them help and medication? eh, fuck that. society's sick of taking care of him. let's decapitate him!
p.s. where did you get your degree in psychoanalysis? i didn't know you were so capable of judging people's capacity to be rehabilitated.
[QUOTE=TheHydra;31759887]you're right. this guy is clearly incapable of functioning in society right now, and is likely severely deranged. hey wait, don't we have places we can take people with mental disorders to get them help and medication? eh, fuck that. society's sick of taking care of him. let's decapitate him!
p.s. where did you get your degree in psychoanalysis? i didn't know you were so capable of judging people's capacity to be rehabilitated.[/QUOTE]
I'm sorry, I wasn't under the impression that I needed a degree to know that somebody who decapitates a handicapped child for the reason 'to make my wife feel stupid' is a completely and utter psychopath.
People that do stuff like that tend to have very messed up brain chemistry, or parts of their brain have formed incorrectly (you can look this up if you don't believe me) - for example the part of the brain responsible for experiencing certain emotions and the part of the brain shown to allow people to empathise with others is generally not formed correctly in a sociopath.
You CANNOT 'fix' or 'rehabilitate' people like this. It is physically impossible. It's a nice ideal to have 'we should try to fix people instead of locking them away/killing them/etc' but unfortunately it's not realistic. You can't fix someone like this for the same reason that you can't take a computer built in the 50s and make it carry out the same operations as a modern day computer - unless you 'replace' the brain (the circuitry in the case of the computer) things aren't going to change.
Week ruined...
I'm glad this fucker lives in a state that will provide him with a quick way out of his misery.
[QUOTE=sltungle;31759978]I'm sorry, I wasn't under the impression that I needed a degree to know that somebody who decapitates a handicapped child for the reason 'to make my wife feel stupid' is a completely and utter psychopath.
People that do stuff like that tend to have very messed up brain chemistry, or parts of their brain have formed incorrectly (you can look this up if you don't believe me) - for example the part of the brain responsible for experiencing certain emotions and the part of the brain shown to allow people to empathise with others is generally not formed correctly in a sociopath.
You CANNOT 'fix' or 'rehabilitate' people like this. It is physically impossible. It's a nice ideal to have 'we should try to fix people instead of locking them away/killing them/etc' but unfortunately it's not realistic. You can't fix someone like this for the same reason that you can't take a computer built in the 50s and make it carry out the same operations as a modern day computer - unless you 'replace' the brain (the circuitry in the case of the computer) things aren't going to change.[/QUOTE]
Yes you can. Just watch it happen. I would love for you to provide some cases like this that could be used a proof. And if people as angry as you were in the justice system, a bunch of people would be dead before they had the chance to be rehabilitated into contributing members of society. There is no reason to kill this man other than sheer angry vigilante justice bullshit.
[QUOTE=nox;31760042]I'm glad this fucker lives in a state that will provide him with a quick way out of his misery.[/QUOTE]
I'm glad you're not in any position of power
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