New graphic anti-smoking adverts launched in England - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Deamie;39003605] After all, smoking is still pretty 'cool' and that's not going to change anytime soon.[/QUOTE] Well aren't you hardcore

[QUOTE=znk666;39005829]What about fast food and alcohol? Shouldn't similar campaigns be launched against those?[/QUOTE] They used to have alcohol ones where someone climbed some scaffolding and then fell to his death, with the slogan "don't let good times turn bad"

[QUOTE=Elfy;39005797]Government makes too much money from it so they make these ads that they KNOW will do nothing as smokers are heavily addicted. I can only hope that they do work, my mum who is 51 is quitting soon for the new year, she's been unstable and I think she needs these ads to push her away from it. Severe depression doesn't help though. Oh, fun fact; smoking doesn't relax you, it's the deep breathes you take while smoking.[/QUOTE] It also alleviates the stress that's caused by the addiction, which wouldn't exist if they hadn't started smoking in the first place.

Trouble is, people think they're invincible. We're aware of the risks, but we all have an "it won't happen to me" attitude. I honestly think a good campaign for helping (particularly younger) people to stop smoking would be to focus on the effects of aging that smoking has. We may all think we're invincible, but we're aware that growing old is inevitable, and that scares the shit out of some people. If some campaigns were to focus on how smoking dries out your skin and makes you wrinkly, I think that might be enough incentive to make people [i]want[/i] to stop. The fact that it messes with your skin permanently, yellows your teeth and nails and frankly makes you smell bad, is more than enough to put me off without the worries of diseases smoking causes. Let's face it, we're vain. I think a campaign like that will certainly hit a lot of young smokers harder than one about diseases.

[QUOTE=Bobie;39005788]since you've probably never opened a dictionary in your life[/quote] Oh boy, more baseless assumptions! [quote] [img]http://snag.gy/Jc9N0.jpg[/img][/quote] And a condescending image! Yay! [quote]the conditioning of your environment is [i]everything[/i] you learn as voluntary processes. to even begin to suggest that you're void of this is 100% impossible. [/quote] You need to learn how to seperate environmental conditioning from peer pressure. Peer pressure is when your peers are pressuring you into doing something. It's when you're egged into doing something to 'fit in', or 'because everyone else is'. It's not the same thing as being taught what is and isn't so by the environment you grow up in. Figure it out already. Being pressured into drinking at parties because all your friends are doing so and keep shoving a bottle of Jack Daniels in your face is entirely different from being taught how to drive a car without smacking into a pole every five minutes. [quote]the bit about free will cracked me up as well (more delusional shit) here's a credible study done on the non-existence of free will. an overwhelming majority of neuroscientists have confirmed it [i]does not exist[/i] [url]http://pacherie.free.fr/COURS/MSC/Libet-JCS1999.pdf[/url] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuroscience_of_free_will#Free_will_as_illusion[/url] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Libet#Implications_of_Libet.27s_experiments[/url] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Readiness_potential[/url] [url]http://www.informationphilosopher.com/freedom/history/[/url][/QUOTE] Three wiki links and some biased shit? You really expect me to believe that?

[QUOTE=TestECull;39007927]Oh boy, more baseless assumptions! And a condescending image! Yay! You need to learn how to seperate environmental conditioning from peer pressure. Peer pressure is when your peers are pressuring you into doing something. It's when you're egged into doing something to 'fit in', or 'because everyone else is'. It's not the same thing as being taught what is and isn't so by the environment you grow up in. Figure it out already. Being pressured into drinking at parties because all your friends are doing so and keep shoving a bottle of Jack Daniels in your face is entirely different from being taught how to drive a car without smacking into a pole every five minutes. Three wiki links and some biased shit? You really expect me to believe that?[/QUOTE] biased shit? discredited because it's a wiki link? jesus christ. you can't "separate peer pressure from environmental conditioning". you literally have [i]no idea[/i] what you're talking about. i don't even know why i'm bothering anymore. clearly your gcse in psychology outweighs decades of work. or you're trolling. hopefully the latter. [editline]28th December 2012[/editline] if you've written the entire libet experiment off as 'biased' then you're probably the biggest idiot i've ever met on this forum

gentlemen if you think this is graphic, try seeing brazil anti-smoking ads, it waaaaay worse(seriously don't google unless you're sure you want to see that stuff).

[QUOTE=dass;39003643]It's sad that theres people who actually believe this, and some even get turned on by it...[/QUOTE] I stumbled upon a pregnancy fetish website. I have my own odd sexual desires; pregnancy is not one of them, but I can respect it. There were pictures of this massively pregnant woman smoking, and flaunting it. Disgusting.

I'll smoke all I want, thanks.

waste of money 99% of cig smokers are fucking morons who won't be swayed by anything [editline]a[/editline] AND WOULD YOU LOOK AT THAT RIGHT ON SCHEDULE --------------------------------------------------------------------^

I dont know about this scare tactic stuff working very well. I took a Health Psychology course in college and we had a section dedicated to the psychology of why people take part in unhealthy behaviors like smoking. Turns out most smokers (THIS IS ALL IN THE US) are those with a GED/didnt finish highschool [t]http://filesmelt.com/dl/smoking1.png[/t] That reinforces the idea that most people who end up smoking arent educated on the subject or the damage it can cause. Also smoking is showing a heavy decline in the US (yes i know these figures are from 2003 but according to my professor they are continuing their decline. [t]http://filesmelt.com/dl/smoking2.png[/t] [t]http://filesmelt.com/dl/smoking3.png[/t] The awesome thing about the graph above is the labeling of legislature. It shows how banning advertising from television, raising awareness, and raising taxes has significantly reduced consumption. I dont think putting pictures on boxes will do much since people who buy packs a day are already addicted. Its all about preventing them from starting, thats the best way of keeping the number of users down. Also, i know ive seen a graph that shows that most smokers start in their early to mid teens (12-16) but i cant find it atm, anyway keeping those kids from starting is the key since addiction to cigarettes usually last a lifetime.

[QUOTE=Desuh;39003654]We need those adverts for fastfood too.[/QUOTE] The fact that this post got a bunch of Dumbs is just so typical Facepunch. Tell you what, I smoke a pack of cigarettes a day & you eat plastic-fatty-fast-food everyday & we'll see who dies first. Don't think that either should be allowed to have an ad where they don't tell you the risks. /Not fat person

[QUOTE=FPChris;39009118]The fact that this post got a bunch of Dumbs is just so typical Facepunch. Tell you what, I smoke a pack of cigarettes a day & you eat plastic-fatty-fast-food everyday & we'll see who dies first. Don't think that either should be allowed to have an ad where they don't tell you the risks. /Not fat person[/QUOTE] I believe that all things that pose a risk to your health should be required to be labeled as such. And no more of this "This product may have the following side effects: cancerbronchitislymphomahighbloodpressurelgaucomaheartattacksstrokeinternalbleedingtesticularfailureanddeath." Seriously, I hate those commercials for "new" drugs that spend 20 seconds listing out (in an unnaturally fast voice) every single bad thing that can happen when you take it while some family is smiling and laughing in the background. Fucking asinine.

[QUOTE=Deamie;39003605]Not sure how much difference it will make I'm afraid. After all, smoking is still pretty 'cool' and that's not going to change anytime soon.[/QUOTE] I'd say the teenagers of today don't smoke cigarettes half as much as the ones from ten years ago. Mainly because weed prices are getting cheaper.

At least he was considerate enough to smoke outside.

[QUOTE=FPChris;39009118]The fact that this post got a bunch of Dumbs is just so typical Facepunch. Tell you what, I smoke a pack of cigarettes a day & you eat plastic-fatty-fast-food everyday & we'll see who dies first. Don't think that either should be allowed to have an ad where they don't tell you the risks. /Not fat person[/QUOTE] When fast food becomes physically addictive and people suffer withdrawal symptoms from it I'll agree with you.

[QUOTE=carcarcargo;39010108]When fast food becomes physically addictive and people suffer withdrawal symptoms from it I'll agree with you.[/QUOTE] i don't know man, i'm pretty sure that starvation is a pretty serious withdrawal symptom

[QUOTE=Greenen72;39010156]i don't know man, i'm pretty sure that starvation is a pretty serious withdrawal symptom[/QUOTE] Why does your country only have fast food and nothing else?

[QUOTE=- Livewire -;39003878]They have, I was watching the news earlier about it and one of the points they make is that it makes you smell, but to be honest if you actually shower more than once a week you won't do.[/QUOTE] I shower twice a day and still smell like cigarette smoke, and I don't even smoke. I'm just around smokers a lot. It's not about how often you shower, that shit seeps into your skin.

[QUOTE=mobrockers2;39004544]Because the majority of the people are done with the filthy ass smokers.[/QUOTE] Can we please stop with the fucking "holier than thou" attitude towards people who smoke. I'll smoke if I like, I make sure I don't smoke around kids. If I'm standing in a bus shelter having a fag, I'll move. I'm not a "filthy ass smoker". I enjoy a cigarette. Sorry if I don't meet your incredibly high expectations of people.

[QUOTE=kebab52;39011024]Can we please stop with the fucking "holier than thou" attitude towards people who smoke. I'll smoke if I like, I make sure I don't smoke around kids. If I'm standing in a bus shelter having a fag, I'll move. I'm not a "filthy ass smoker". I enjoy a cigarette. Sorry if I don't meet your incredibly high expectations of people.[/QUOTE] Secondhand smoke. Your actions affect other people.

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;39011061]Secondhand smoke. Your actions affect other people.[/QUOTE] Hence why I said I try not to smoke around other people?

[QUOTE=kebab52;39011024]Can we please stop with the fucking "holier than thou" attitude towards people who smoke. I'll smoke if I like, I make sure I don't smoke around kids. If I'm standing in a bus shelter having a fag, I'll move. I'm not a "filthy ass smoker". I enjoy a cigarette. Sorry if I don't meet your incredibly high expectations of people.[/QUOTE] Expecting people not to smoke is not a high expectation at all.

the air quality in London is pretty horrible anyway, tobacco smoke isn't nearly the worst.

How do you guys feel about tobacco pipes?

[QUOTE=Coppermoss;39013282]How do you guys feel about tobacco pipes?[/QUOTE] go splendid with my fedora

[QUOTE=mobrockers2;39004544]Because the majority of the people are done with the filthy ass smokers.[/QUOTE] wow calm down

"the ads are only to MAKE PEOPLE NOT START wow get over it you smoking fiends!" Turn people off of smoking = making smoking seem like a bad thing = turning smokers into "people who do a bad bad thing" = demonizing those who smoke whether or not you're a smoker or in support of all this legislation, that's the path that this sort of legislation brings us down. and please don't start with the "SMOKERS ARE ALL ASSHOLES ANYWAY THEY BLOW SECONDHAND INTO MY EYEHOLES". there are people who smoke behind buildings for the sole purpose of keeping it away from the unwilling. your anecdotal "evidence" doesn't really mean anything when applied to an entire group of people (see: stereotyping)

Australia has had graphic ads and images on cigarette packets for years, and recently brought in legislation mandating that all cigarette packets have to be olive green with a giant image of some smoking-related illness and the brand in small font down the bottom. As a cashier at a grocery store and knowing several smokers, I can tell you that the only thing these laws have done to curb smoking is make trying to find a certain brand on the shelf behind me a pain in the ass.

The reason I don't smoke is because I actually tried it. I was peer pressured into doing it and after about 3 days, I couldn't swallow. I had to spit for a week until the gunk in my throat cleared up. That turned me off from it.