GMOD (not the game) gets ended by kickstarter or: garry newman wins - Polidicks

It's fucking mayonnaise you plebeians.

That's a good thing, the whole thing stank anyhow. [QUOTE=smeismastger;40604566]Good, they deserved it. Garry's mod is holy Garry's mod is blessing Death to all those who insult and oppose Garry's mod! [B]DEATH TO THE FALSE PROPHETS![/B][/QUOTE] Wow, when did Garry's mod turn into a religion? Where can i join and what's the initiation process like? [b]I HAVE SO MANY QUESTIONS. OH GARRY, TELL ME YOUR SECRET![/b]

[QUOTE=darth-veger;40604435]You still pay, they only receive it once the project is successfully funded.[/QUOTE] Amazon payments. it's set up to pay, but it doesn't run the charge until the kickstarter ends and they reach their funding requirement

[QUOTE=EskillV2;40606564]That's a good thing, the whole thing stank anyhow. Wow, when did Garry's mod turn into a religion? Where can i join and what's the initiation process like? [b]I HAVE SO MANY QUESTIONS. OH GARRY, TELL ME YOUR SECRET![/b][/QUOTE] Promise your first born to him and we will talk.

Damn, now how am I going to manage my mods?

how are these guys trademark trolls? they are actually making something with their registered trademark and obviously have some sort of community backing. "trolls" simply get a patent and then sue other people instead of actually using the patent. it doesn't appear the game mod guys are gonna sue at all.

If they had stolen content on their site, that'd probably be why. I wouldn't be surprised if some of the Nexus/other mod groups went and sent complaints to kickstarter over their content being stolen and used as part of the Kickstarter campaign.

[QUOTE=yawmwen;40607705]how are these guys trademark trolls? they are actually making something with their registered trademark and obviously have some sort of community backing. "trolls" simply get a patent and then sue other people instead of actually using the patent. it doesn't appear the game mod guys are gonna sue at all.[/QUOTE] I believe people are calling them that because so far they've essentially sat on a trademark with nothing to show for it other than stealing everyone else's work and planning on charging money for it.

Could have also been due to the fact that they're planning on charging a subscription for free mods. If they release mods on their tool without permission of the mod creators and charge for it, they're stealing a bunch of work

[QUOTE=Sam Za Nemesis;40599338]They have the legal trademark for GMOD and even threatened to sue Garry, they were well aware and had the rights for all[/QUOTE] Actually, no, they didn't. If you sell a product but don't own certain rights to it, you can still win in court when a "trademark troll" shows up trying to get a bit off your fame by using a similar or the same name on their own product, provided you have a big enough customer base and proof that your product was first (which Garry does).

[QUOTE=DeanWinchester;40616394]Actually, no, they didn't. If you sell a product but don't own certain rights to it, you can still win in court when a "trademark troll" shows up trying to get a bit off your fame by using a similar or the same name on their own product, provided you have a big enough customer base and proof that your product was first (which Garry does).[/QUOTE] No they did threaten to sue garry and were aware when they bought the trademarks. They bought the trademark in 2006 and have registered sites, facebooks, and twitters in the name and recently came up to garry and essentially said "Buy these from us or we'll have to take you to court for infringing".

From the remnants of Gmod, I present to you, NEXIS. OMM Donut Steel

Butthurter you're disagreeing and dumbing something garry himself has said, i hope you realize that: [quote= Garry Newman]While it may appear to be a rip-off of the ‘GMod’ name used by Garry’s Mod, Newman told VG247 that Olympus Games actually owns the name. “It’s actually the other way around. They own the trademark for ‘gmod’ and have threatened to take us to court if we don’t other buy it off them – along with all their domains and Twitter accounts" [/quote] [url]http://www.vg247.com/2013/05/07/garrys-mod-creator-responds-to-gmod-kickstarter-prepared-to-fight-in-court/[/url]

Remember that Jet Li movie where Jet Li goes to alternate universes and kills all the different versions of himself, and becomes more and more godlike with each one he destroys? Garry is Jet Li.

I wonder what they would have done with the money if the campaign was successful. My guess is that it'd be used to start a legal troll case against Garry and their GMOD's funding would have been an "oh so tragic casualty of the legal troubles that are Garry's fault and not ours". They'd point their finger at Garry for why the product was never made so backers don't feel so much like they are being directly robbed and have somebody to focus their moron-anger at. The legal case would be funded by the backers rather than their own pockets, so losing is a non-issue; personally they could only make money from doing it. Their mod manager 'plan' and whatever stage of it exists adds a tiny level of legitimacy to their case. Nothing to lose but other people's money. I hope this wasn't their plan. They'd need to be pretty fucking terrible people to go through with it, but sadly people like that do exist.

Haha, I feel bad for the guy who backed 4,500$.

Why the heck do they need 75,000 dollars to make a mod manager? And why the heck would it need to be subscription-based, if they're already swimming in their kickstarter funding. A one-time payment MIGHT be acceptable, but i'd just do it for free.

[QUOTE=Fleskhjerta;40627443]Haha, I feel bad for the guy who backed 4,500$.[/QUOTE] it has been explained a few times now, money isn't charged until it succeeds. nobody lost any money. HOWEVER that one and the other large sums were likely the mod team and close people invested in the idea already, trying to pad it and make it look good/help reach its funding. a looot of money was put forth in the first day come to think of it, is that against kickstarter's ToS?

[QUOTE=Xonax;40601527][url]http://www.vg247.com/2013/05/08/gmod-creator-if-a-lawsuit-is-the-only-other-option-left-we%E2%80%99d-rather-rebrand/[/url] [/QUOTE] [quote=The Article]GMOD has a community of 40,000 and an eight-year history, he added, and changing the name of the product isn’t as easy as you might expect.[/quote] GMOD might have 40k fans and 8 years, but so does GMOD.

Seriously though, ignoring this legal bullshit, they are INCREDIBLY stupid to release their tool under a name that is already associated with Garry's Mod. Way to confuse thousands of people and get people to hate you guys..

[QUOTE=ijyt;40628903]GMOD might have 40k fans and 8 years, but so does GMOD.[/QUOTE] where's the counter for his fans? The facebook page has [url=https://www.facebook.com/gmod.powers/friends]five friends[/url] (and is against FB's ToS because it's a product/corporation using a person profile instead of a page) because even our forums get roughly 30-50k 'fans' visiting [i]actively[/i] (last I recall this was based on daily visits, may be longer period) depending on the time of year, the kind of stats that can't be padded by things like fished up facebook likes or simply counting all visits ever to the site over the course of 8 years.

[QUOTE=ijyt;40628903]GMOD might have 40k fans and 8 years, but so does GMOD.[/QUOTE] it's actually fairly easy because 40k people is next to nothing for a paid service. Send these people messages, just add it in a patch for the program that they paid for so next time they boot up it says "whoa man we're changing names". Problem essentially solved seeing as it took them 8 years to get 40k to sign on, these are probably retuning customers and you don't have to worry about a decline in advertisement as it wasn't doing it's job in the first place. [editline]13th May 2013[/editline] Also if they want to play the numbers game, the official steam group itself has over 100k members, and gmod is one of the most played games on steam.

[QUOTE=daijitsu;40630344]where's the counter for his fans? The facebook page has [url=https://www.facebook.com/gmod.powers/friends]five friends[/url] (and is against FB's ToS because it's a product/corporation using a person profile instead of a page)[/QUOTE] They have [URL="http://www.facebook.com/gmodsocial"]this page[/URL] too which has ~300 likes.

Who would even pay for a subscription based mod manager?