The software heist of the century, or a modern art masterpiece?

[TheHydra]

[QUOTE=Rick Ross;31965206]It is what it is.[/QUOTE]
do you take everything at face value, then? or just art?

[thisispain]

[QUOTE=Rick Ross;31965206]It is what it is.[/QUOTE]

yeah and sonic youth is just noise
and de stijl is just lines
and john cage is just clangs
and penderecki is just squeaks

[Rick Ross]

It is organized and the result of human creativity.

I can probably put 5 million dollars worth of software onto my hard-drive, does that make it art?

[TheHydra]

[QUOTE=Rick Ross;31965249]It's fucking stupid.[/QUOTE]
don't act like i didn't see that

[editline]26th August 2011[/editline]

[QUOTE=Rick Ross;31965249]It is organized and the result of human creativity.

I can probably put 5 million dollars worth of software onto my hard-drive, does that make it art?[/QUOTE]
yep

[Rick Ross]

[QUOTE=TheHydra;31965272]don't act like i didn't see that

[editline]26th August 2011[/editline]

yep[/QUOTE]
Got ninjad.

[thisispain]

[QUOTE=Rick Ross;31965249]It's fucking stupid.[/QUOTE]

so?
it's still art lol.
art is very capable of being stupid. i don't particularly like romantic nationalism

[Rick Ross]

[QUOTE=thisispain;31965291]so?
it's still art lol.
art is very capable of being stupid. i don't particularly like romantic nationalism[/QUOTE]
There was no creativity involved in its creation.

[TheHydra]

[QUOTE=Rick Ross;31965329]There was no creativity involved in its creation.[/QUOTE]
ignoring the blatant oxymoron, how exactly do you go about measuring creativity? is there a standard unit? the da vinci, perhaps?

[Rick Ross]

[QUOTE=TheHydra;31965347]ignoring the blatant oxymoron, how exactly do you go about measuring creativity? is there a standard unit? the da vinci, perhaps?[/QUOTE]
Applying your mind to an artistic media?

or

Using your brain to solve problems in new ways?

something like that

[thisispain]

[QUOTE=Rick Ross;31965329]There was no creativity involved in its creation.[/QUOTE]

one can argue the same for romantic nationalism.
plus what's creativity in your mind anyway?
[url]http://www.flickr.com/photos/themuseumofmodernart/sets/72157623741486824/[/url]

is that not art because it doesn't match your concepts of creativity?
pretty sure it is regardless of how much of a B-fit you throw on the facepunch about it.

[fnox]

People need to stop envisioning art as something that needs paint and a canvas. Art is not some pretty faces on a wall, it's what about it conveys, it's about what it entices us to think about.

A 1 terabyte disk filled with pirated content isn't art, the physical element of it that is. It's the thought that 5 million dollars worth of goods can now fit into something smaller than a book that IS true art.

[TheHydra]

[QUOTE=Rick Ross;31965366]Applying your mind to an artistic media?[/QUOTE]
and that happened here.

[thisispain]

[QUOTE=Rick Ross;31965366]Applying your mind to an artistic media?
[/QUOTE]

yeah that happened here, he was like "Hey you know what would be some cool shit?" and he applied his mind to an artistic art-form called conceptual art

the only thing you're convincing me off is how amazingly pedantic you can get, we're not supposed to be your teachers and guide your hand through understanding concepts.

[Rick Ross]

If I upload 5 million dollars worth of data on my HD is it art?

[Dori]

[QUOTE=Rick Ross;31965142]For fuck's sake it is a goddamn harddrive what is wrong with you people.

A fucking harddrive, on a pedestal, in an art museum.

goddamn.[/QUOTE]

[t]http://i.imgur.com/uI4MW.jpg[/t]

For fuck's sake it's a goddamn canvas what is wrong with you people.

A fucking canvas, with paint on it, in an art museum.

goddamn.

[Rick Ross]

[QUOTE=Sanius;31965410][t]http://i.imgur.com/uI4MW.jpg[/t]

For fuck's sake it's a goddamn canvas what is wrong with you people.

A fucking canvas, with paint on it, in an art museum.

goddamn.[/QUOTE]
no its a painting of a lady

derp

[thisispain]

[QUOTE=Rick Ross;31965408]If I upload 5 million dollars worth of data on my HD is it art?[/QUOTE]

no because you don't give a shit you'd just be uploading data on your HD (i think you mean download).

if you gave a shit and weren't a massive ******* (take a guess let's play hangman) then maybe you'd get a shot at making it art but it's already been done so you'd just be a biter and a bad imitator.

so not only would your artwork suck and be out of spite you'd also be a con artist and fail to prove anything.

[Rick Ross]

i should buy the same model hard-drive and upload 5 million dollars worth of data on it and swap it out for that and sell it to black market art dealers itll be the perfect crime

[Dori]

you should stop posting so terribly

[Rick Ross]

[QUOTE=thisispain;31965471]no because you don't give a shit you'd just be uploading data on your HD (i think you mean download).

if you gave a shit and weren't a massive ******* (take a guess let's play hangman) then maybe you'd get a shot at making it art but it's already been done so you'd just be a biter and a bad imitator.

so not only would your artwork suck and be out of spite you'd also be a con artist and fail to prove anything.[/QUOTE]

Isn't it the exact same thing, though?

[editline]27th August 2011[/editline]

"no cause uz a bitch"

[thisispain]

[QUOTE=Rick Ross;31965487]i should buy the same model hard-drive and upload 5 million dollars worth of data on it and swap it out for that and sell it to black market art dealers itll be the perfect crime[/QUOTE]

doesn't your brain stop you before you post things like that?

isn't there a voice in your head that goes "dude what the fuck are you doing stop typing"

[TheHydra]

[QUOTE=Sanius;31965494]you should stop posting so terribly[/QUOTE]
if i post badly is it art

[thisispain]

[QUOTE=Rick Ross;31965505]Isn't it the exact same thing, though?
[/QUOTE]

yeah it is exactly the same thing but that doesn't change anything.
intentional fallacy, the artist's intent is irrelevant to understanding the art work.

[Rick Ross]

you cannot prove the artist's intent. it is not reflected in the hard-drive.

with a few other pieces of real art, yeah.

[TheHydra]

[QUOTE=Rick Ross;31965536]Way to come up with a counter argument.[/QUOTE]
no one's arguing against your bullshit black market certain-imprisonment plan. by all means, try it.

[Dori]

[QUOTE=Rick Ross;31965536]Way to come up with a counter argument.[/QUOTE]

I don't think you have any right to make such a statement when your attempts at a counter-argument are as wonderfully thought out as this:

[quote]no its a painting of a lady

derp [/quote]

[Rick Ross]

[QUOTE=Sanius;31965562]I don't think you have any right to make such a statement when your attempts at a counter-argument are as wonderfully thought out as this:[/QUOTE]
It is what it is.

"it is canvas with oil and whatnot"

yeah but it reflects light that looks like a lady

is that better?

[thisispain]

[QUOTE=Rick Ross;31965536]yeah but this isnt art[/QUOTE]

good job you must be the heir to john ruskin

[Rick Ross]

[QUOTE=Rick Ross;31965536]you cannot prove the artist's intent. it is not reflected in the hard-drive.

with a few other pieces of real art, yeah.[/QUOTE]

[TheHydra]

[QUOTE=Rick Ross;31965597]It is what it is.[/QUOTE]
i know you must feel really fucking clever repeating that meaningless phrase but it makes no sense if you spend over a second thinking about it. what is anything, really?

[editline]27th August 2011[/editline]

you can prove the artist's intent in that he fucking submitted it to an art gallery wtf