The software heist of the century, or a modern art masterpiece? - Polidicks

[QUOTE=TheHydra;31965616]i know you must feel really fucking clever repeating that meaningless phrase but it makes no sense if you spend over a second thinking about it. what is anything, really? [editline]27th August 2011[/editline] you can prove the artist's intent in that he fucking submitted it to an art gallery wtf[/QUOTE] What it appears to be at face value. Okay what if it were discovered at a random location 100 years later?

[QUOTE=Rick Ross;31965636]What it appears to be at face value.[/QUOTE] once again i must ask: do you take everything at face value, or just art?

artist's intent is irrelevant because that ties back to the biography not the art piece itself. we don't analyze the artist's feelings or intent when analyzing literature unless we attempt to understand the artist rather than the piece. this is all very simple and taught in any criticism class but you don't really give a fuck so [editline]26th August 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Rick Ross;31965636] Okay what if it were discovered at a random location 100 years later?[/QUOTE] who gives a fuck

[QUOTE=TheHydra;31965648]once again i must ask: do you take everything at face value, or just art?[/QUOTE] For everything else, if you are wrong, you are wrong.

[QUOTE=Rick Ross;31965636] Okay what if it were discovered at a random location 100 years later?[/QUOTE] Cave paintings are shit a 3 year old could do those, they must not count as art

[QUOTE=Rick Ross;31965680]For everything else, if you are wrong, you are wrong.[/QUOTE] what the hell does that mean

[QUOTE=TheHydra;31965690]what the hell does that mean[/QUOTE] If it isn't what it is then it isn't.

[QUOTE=Rick Ross;31965691]I think you don't because if that were the case it'd be a hard-drive with 5 million dollars worth of data.[/QUOTE] it is a hard-drive with "5 million dollars worth" of data... why are you pretending no-one agrees with that idea

[QUOTE=Rick Ross;31965691]If it isn't what it is then it isn't.[/QUOTE] get a haircut, hippie

[QUOTE=thisispain;31965713]it is a hard-drive with "5 million dollars worth" of data... why are you pretending no-one agrees with that idea[/QUOTE] Because data is actually worthless because it can be copied.

[QUOTE=Rick Ross;31965760]Because data is actually worthless because it can be copied.[/QUOTE] wow, suddenly you kind of understand the point of this piece. congratulations!

[QUOTE=Rick Ross;31965760]Because data is actually worthless because it can be copied.[/QUOTE]The Mona Lisa can be copied, it has been many times. Does that make it not art? If someone wanted to they could say copying the Mona Lisa is an artistic expression in itself. (which is similar to what the artist did in this case btw)

[QUOTE=Rick Ross;31965760]Because data is actually worthless because it can be copied.[/QUOTE] yay now you can't deny it's art because it got you to think about its concept you lose sorry

[QUOTE=TheHydra;31965779]wow, suddenly you kind of understand the point of this piece. congratulations![/QUOTE] It's just like.. not a big deal and can be reproduced by anybody..

[QUOTE=Rick Ross;31965805]It's just like.. not a big deal and can be reproduced by anybody..[/QUOTE] 5 million dollars easily reproduced by anyone think about it and what it says about our society think, right now you're an art scholar now.

[QUOTE=Zeke129;31965810]5 million dollars easily reproduced by anyone think about it and what it says about our society think, right now you're an art scholar now.[/QUOTE] i got nothin people pay for what they can get for free because software companies have to make money? amidoingitright? I already know that.

[QUOTE=Rick Ross;31965833]i got nothin people pay for what they can get for free because software companies have to make money? amidoingitright?[/QUOTE] that's one interpretation, yes. welcome to thought beyond face value! that warm feeling in your pants is your new-found intelligence, i assure you.

[QUOTE=TheHydra;31965856]that's one interpretation, yes. welcome to thought beyond face value! that warm feeling in your pants is your new-found intelligence, i assure you.[/QUOTE] Yeah but that's kinda like no shit though.

[QUOTE=Rick Ross;31965864]Yeah but that's kinda like no shit though.[/QUOTE] kind of like the fact that this is art.

[QUOTE=Rick Ross;31965864]Yeah but that's kinda like no shit though.[/QUOTE] people's impressions on things are usually "no shit" because our mind generates them almost instantaneously after receiving information but then you look around and see other interpretations are different and that's what makes it cool

[QUOTE=Zeke129;31965879]people's impressions on things are usually "no shit" because our mind generates them almost instantaneously after receiving information but then you look around and see other interpretations are different and that's what makes it cool[/QUOTE]Not when it is that obvious. I can get that conclusion from deductive reasoning.

guys something beautiful just happened here

[QUOTE=Rick Ross;31965904]Not when it is that obvious.[/QUOTE] obvious to you my interpretation was obvious to me and it was different gasp

[QUOTE=thisispain;31965907]guys something beautiful just happened here[/QUOTE] it's like watching a baby take his first steps

[QUOTE=Zeke129;31965918]obvious to you my interpretation was obvious to me and it was different gasp[/QUOTE] your interpretation was baloney

[QUOTE=Rick Ross;31965408]If I upload 5 million dollars worth of data on my HD is it art?[/QUOTE] if someone calls it art it is (but then you'd be a plagiarist)

[QUOTE=Rick Ross;31965957]your interpretation was baloney[/QUOTE] No I'm pretty sure his interpretation was a thought or connected sequence of thoughts.

[QUOTE=Rick Ross;31962470]Art's expression is the result of subconscious thinking coming out over the course of a long, torturous, creative process. Clearly YOU don't understand what art is. This pisses me off because I'm somewhat talented myself and might have pursued a career in art if it weren't for this kind of bullshit.[/QUOTE] It's funny because you think art is simply about what you see or what can be placed with simply technique. Art is not about that. I'm a fucking art student, all I've done for the last few years is try and find the meaning in art and why things like this are art, you don't have to see it that way, i don't give a shit, art is a subjective subject, but when you have an attitude that is essentially that of "well, those fucking idiots don't know anything about what they're doing" it's just insulting and pathetic really. [editline]27th August 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Rick Ross;31964841][img]http://cdn.thenextweb.com/shareables/files/2011/08/Picture-9.png[/img] "so deep" Art people like interpretation instead of looks when in reality it is what it is. They get so absorbed in the interpretation they forget art exists because it looks cool. Does that make sense?[/QUOTE] Yeah, actually, upon reading this, YOU'RE the one who doesn't understand art all that well... [editline]27th August 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Rick Ross;31965206]It is what it is.[/QUOTE] So the mona lisa is simply oil on a canvas in a manner our eyes find intriguing. This harddrive is merely a block of plastic and metal our MINDS find interesting. If you don't get the fucking point of art yet, you're never going to and would never have been an artist of any sort. [editline]27th August 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Rick Ross;31965329]There was no creativity involved in its creation.[/QUOTE] It took conceptual creativity to say "wow, this block of plastic is literally worth more than my life to most people" and then it took balls to say "this is a form of concept art" - dun dun dun - because it's a concept.

[QUOTE=Simski;31913916]What's the point in calling something "art" if "art" can be anything? This is why I hate modern art, it makes "art" a useless definition that can be used on absolutely everything.[/QUOTE] Yes, sir, art can be used on absolutely everything. Art is about how you interpret things, you can interpret everything and make it deeper than it seems to be, which is something everyone who agreed with you seems to be incapable of doing.

[QUOTE=Rick Ross;31965505]Isn't it the exact same thing, though? [editline]27th August 2011[/editline] "no cause uz a bitch"[/QUOTE] Could someone give you a replica of the mona lisa and say "I made this, it's as good as the original" and you'd genuinely care more about that than the original? In art, the first one to do something new is the only one to do something new. Hell, that's self explanatory, but maybe you need to realize that.