Muslims suspected in bombing a store in Paris after the release of French Magazine drawing of Mohamm
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[QUOTE=Riller;37727104]
Also, ATHEISTS, YAY! You guys love those, right? Right?
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I don't know what other atheists love, but I personally like when:
this
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turns
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into this
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[QUOTE=gudman;37727105]I'm not twisting anything. Aggressive muslims actually believe their Prophet was offended (like he is't long dead or anything) and must be avenged with blood. Hitler just said that god hates jews, and no one really believed it, he missed the Middle Ages by two hundred years. You said it's the same thing, and I showed the diffirence.[/QUOTE]
I think the "no one really believed it" stands for debate but I can see where you're coming from.
[QUOTE=GunFox;37727167]Really?
The best example against atheists you can come up with is so old it involved a [I]horse drawn carriage[/I] bomb?
And had nothing to do with religion and everything to do with politics and economics?[/QUOTE]
Pretty much, yeah... I mean... I would find some of those book depots getting burnt down for containing creationist litterature, but can't find good pictures.
[QUOTE=critein_protein;37726008]Muslim animals have no culture.[/QUOTE]
Are you fucking kidding me? You're are the epitome of a hard-boiled racist. Do you rub off with the confederate flag?
[QUOTE=Cypher_09;37727202]I think the "no one really believed it" stands for debate but I can see where you're coming from.[/QUOTE]
The origins of hatred towards jews actually are in Christianity, that's out of the question. However, there were a lot of other reasons (almost entirely false, but A LOT of people believed it) for people in post-war Germany to hate Jews. Jews were commonly blamed for seizing all of what's left of German industries. That laid perfectly well upon already existing "blood libel" of Christian origin.
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[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;37727220]Are you fucking kidding me? You're are the epitome of a hard-boiled racist. Do you rub off with the confederate flag?[/QUOTE]
Well, Islam is not a race, nationality or ethnicity, so technically it's not racist. Disgusting non the less though.
bleh must suck for the Muslims getting all these negative stereotypes because of all these extremists being dicks
[QUOTE=Primigenes;37727363]I have that urge to say something stupid like France has this coming.
And it only because of the few stupid cartoonist who think infuriating the Muslim extremist by depicting there prophet is funny. Its like they're stupid
I can care less about the whole
"HURR LETS TEACH PEOPLE THAT WE GONNA DO WHATEVER WE WANT"
These extremist are going to endanger the lives of people and it doesn't help that your trying to piss them off. This isn't a joke[/QUOTE]
So this kinda validates the "Kill enough people and you are right" idea...
Maybe we should start nuking the middle-east and get it overwith.
[QUOTE=Primigenes;37727363]I have that urge to say something stupid like France has this coming.
And it only because of the few stupid cartoonist who think infuriating the Muslim extremist by depicting there prophet is funny. Its like they're stupid
I can care less about the whole
"HURR LETS TEACH PEOPLE THAT WE GONNA DO WHATEVER WE WANT"
These extremist are going to endanger the lives of people and it doesn't help that your trying to piss them off. This isn't a joke[/QUOTE]
People are going to do whatever they do in their own countries. If these barbarians want to live by their medieval rules - what the fuck they've forgotten in France?
People get killed - these responisble get jailed, that simple. They are in dire need to understand that no one is going to live by their rules, respect their fantasies out of fear. Or else next thing they do, threaten to kill people and blow stuff up if Europe won't bow down to them or something like that.
To achieve that, they [b]must[/b] be ridiculed weekly, daily. They can get offended (because they really just "getting offended" over something that's not offensive to anyone else) all they want, no one is going to change the world to suit them.
[QUOTE=gudman;37727315]Well, Islam is not a race, nationality or ethnicity, so technically it's not racist. Disgusting non the less though.[/QUOTE]
[B]Stop this.[/B] For fucks sake, the herp derp not a race so not racist is the most moronic non-argument ever invented by racism apologists.
The [B]entire concept of race[/B] is pseudo-science at best, and human 'races' don't even really exist to begin with.
[QUOTE=NoDachi;37727581][B]Stop this.[/B] For fucks sake, the herp derp not a race so not racist is the most moronic non-argument ever invented by racism apologists.
The [B]entire concept of race[/B] is pseudo-science at best, and human 'races' don't even really exist to begin with.[/QUOTE]
whites are [i]superior[/i] to blacks though theres no disputing that
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It disturbs me that a sizable number of the population believes that this will get them into heaven.[/QUOTE]
Six (less than Jews) percent of all terrorism in the US is caused by Muslim extremists, obviously not a sizable number.
It's as if they are trying to give reasons to stoke the fire that runs engine of the Muslim-Hate movement. This is not a good way to prove your religion is peaceful. Fucking fanatics of any kind are frightening.
[QUOTE=NoDachi;37727581][B]Stop this.[/B] For fucks sake, the herp derp not a race so not racist is the most moronic non-argument ever invented by racism apologists.
The [B]entire concept of race[/B] is pseudo-science at best, and human 'races' don't even really exist to begin with.[/QUOTE]
Yes, it really is pseudo-scientific. I'm no "racism apologist".
So, are you going to argue that Religion has absolutely nothing to do with racism (a common term for hatred based on ethnicity/nationality/place of origins)?
[QUOTE=NoDachi;37727581][B]Stop this.[/B] For fucks sake, the herp derp not a race so not racist is the most moronic non-argument ever invented by racism apologists.
The [B]entire concept of race[/B] is pseudo-science at best, and human 'races' don't even really exist to begin with.[/QUOTE]
I disagree, it is a fairly valid argument.
It doesn't make it particularly nice to say, but expressing distaste for a group with voluntary admission and is based around a set of ideas has virtually nothing in common with expressing distaste for people based on the color of their skin.
Any religious factions are identical to every other group out there. It would be ridiculous to call hating Democrats or Republicans racist. Likewise it would be ridiculous to call hating the KKK or the TSA racist. This is exactly what is being done though.
Hating people because of their belief system is, as far as reasons to hate go, fairly valid and is worlds apart from hating folks based on sexual orientation or the color of their skin.
Not that I really agree. Objectively Muslims are just as full of shit as all the other Abrahamic religions. Hating them universally simply for being ignorant is pointless.
[QUOTE=gudman;37727679]Yes, it really is pseudo-scientific. I'm no "racism apologist".
So, are you going to argue that Religion has absolutely nothing to do with racism (a common term for hatred based on ethnicity/nationality/place of origins)?[/QUOTE]
Your argument that 'Muslim animals have no culture.' is not racist, is painfully incorrect.
My point was that I want you to never use to mistaken logic that not race = not racism.
[QUOTE=GunFox;37727754]I disagree, it is a fairly valid argument.
It doesn't make it particularly nice to say, but expressing distaste for a group with voluntary admission and is based around a set of ideas has virtually nothing in common with expressing distaste for people based on the color of their skin.
Any religious factions are identical to every other group out there. It would be ridiculous to call hating Democrats or Republicans racist. Likewise it would be ridiculous to call hating the KKK or the TSA racist. This is exactly what is being done though.
Hating people because of their belief system is, as far as reasons to hate go, fairly valid and is worlds apart from hating folks based on sexual orientation or the color of their skin.
Not that I really agree. Objectively Muslims are just as full of shit as all the other Abrahamic religions. Hating them universally simply for being ignorant is pointless.[/QUOTE]
But he said "Muslim animals" so he considers them as a different and inferior race.
[QUOTE=Kljunas;37727800]But he said "Muslim animals" so he considers them as a different and inferior race.[/QUOTE]
Yeah that is an excellent point, I'll give you that one.
[QUOTE=NoDachi;37727758]Your argument that 'Muslim animals have no culture.' is not racist, is painfully incorrect.
My point was that I want you to never use to mistaken logic that not race = not racism.[/QUOTE]
Christian animals have no culture.
Buddhist animals have no culture.
Does these sound like racism? I doubt, sorry.
That's why I specifically said not only "race", but also "ethnicity" and "nationality". And also said "technically", because that guy most likely really meant Middle Eastern people as a whole.
[QUOTE=critein_protein;37726008]Muslim animals have no culture.[/QUOTE]
Oh hello Karadzic, going to genocide some more Bosnian muslims?
[QUOTE=Primigenes;37727877]Ugh no?
While we have people doing things from the safety and comfort of there own homes others like the people in this grocery are getting screwed over because assholes are pissing off even bigger assholes.
You guys aren't being sensible. If a petty action like this is egging them on then stop committing that same action. If you stop talking about Muhammad does it limit you in such a way that you can not function through out the day?[/QUOTE]
Oh, that sounds familiar. Stop wearing these mini-skirts, ladies, you provoke psychopaths to rape you! Is it so hard for you? Will it limit you in such a way that you can not function through out the day? Why won't you wear garbage bags for clothes?
[QUOTE=Kljunas;37727800]But he said "Muslim animals" so he considers them as a different and inferior race.[/QUOTE]
Muslims are superior to any other being. Don't you know that ?
And Arabs are best of Muslims.
[QUOTE=fritzel;37727967]
And Arabs are best of Muslims.[/QUOTE]
Don't tell the Taliban that, they won't be pleased
[QUOTE=gudman;37727949]Oh, that sounds familiar. Stop wearing these mini-skirts, ladies, you provoke psychopaths to rape you! Is it so hard for you? Will it limit you in such a way that you can not function through out the day? Why won't you wear garbage bags for clothes?[/QUOTE]
What are you-... I mean, how-... What?
His argument is that you are endangering OTHER people by doing retarded shit. If I wear a mini skirt, some random girl three towns over won't get raped because of it. If I draw muhammed and publish it to piss off muslims, some guy three towns over might very well get blown up.
Then again, me in a miniskirt probably DOES count as terrorism anyway.
[QUOTE=critein_protein;37725886]Fucking hate Islam.[/QUOTE]
Just because some of them do this shit doesn't mean they're all bad. Somewhere someone is mad about this and don't agree to what is going on.
[QUOTE=fritzel;37727967]
And Arabs are best of Muslims.[/QUOTE]
you say this as if all arabs are muslims
[QUOTE=Riller;37727997]If I wear a mini skirt, some random girl three towns over won't get raped because of it. If I draw muhammed and publish it to piss off muslims, some guy three towns over might very well get blown up.
Then again, me in a miniskirt probably DOES count as terrorism anyway.[/QUOTE]
You should ideally wear burqa to avoid prying eyes and raging rapists. Otherwise you asked for it.
why is it every thread turns into a pissing contest about which religion is historically more violent
most of you don't even know anything about history, what possible knowledge would you base your comments on?
[QUOTE=znk666;37726808]I said rarely not never.
They don't do it as often as Muslims.[/QUOTE]
wtf znk666 you say ignorant shit constantly in multiple threads, what possible knowledge do you think you have in order to make such a concise statement????
[QUOTE=Riller;37727997]What are you-... I mean, how-... What?
His argument is that you are endangering OTHER people by doing retarded shit. If I wear a mini skirt, some random girl three towns over won't get raped because of it. If I draw muhammed and publish it to piss off muslims, some guy three towns over might very well get blown up.
Then again, me in a miniskirt probably DOES count as terrorism anyway.[/QUOTE]
It's not THAT straight-forward example. Concept of "provoking" is what I really aimed at. No one's provoking anyone. You can not provoke human being to kill someone else. You just can not. If he still kills someone and then blames you - it's either he actually is an animal, or he's using you as an excuse.
That's the one and only weapon of terrorists and extremists - fear that someone can get hurt or even killed. One just can bow down to it, that's a neverending story. Don't talk about Mohammed or someone might get hurt. Don't allow gay-marriages or someone might get hurt. Don't allow your women wearing mini-skirts or someone might get hurt - that was a true story in my country. Then what?
Who the hell are they to dictate people what to do? Aggressive sociopaths - but that just means they're in dire need of returning back to lands of their origin, where everything is like they want. Are they just so offended they shit on laws of their own religion (the very reason they're offended)? Either way, there should be no tolerance for such things. Modern society has no obligation to follow and respect the medieval rules of barbarians.
[QUOTE=dunkace;37725455]Once again fulfilling their stereotype.[/QUOTE]
I'm actually a jew and I find that offensive.
I always wondered why with all these religions, with the all knowing, all mighty, judge of judges, owner of paradise, that any of us/you religious people that do this, must try to enforce your shit upon others, no matter what. Being Gay's bad, so no we're not allowing you to have these rights because the bible says so. Well fuck your Bible. Why not just let your gods sort everyone out when they die and show up at the pearly gates, rather than get all violent and kill them? Surely he's capable of doing it on his own he's a big boy, right? He doesn't need your help. Even Muhammad can probably handle a couple people calling him names
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