• 2010 tied with 2005 as warmest year on record
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Yeah, too bad it only shows temperatures in the last 120 years. That's like a microsecond in the worlds history. What about thousands of years ago? Do we know if there were temperatures spikes before? Maybe it's just a repeating pattern?
[QUOTE=Crhem van der B;27454395]Yeah, too bad it only shows temperatures in the last 120 years. That's like a microsecond in the worlds history. What about thousands of years ago? Do we know if there were temperatures spikes before? Maybe it's just a repeating pattern?[/QUOTE] There were temperature spikes and drops at regular intervals over the past hundreds of thousands of years.
Global warming is the wrong term for this. It's global climate change and it happens in a cycle, look up your history and you will see the planet cycles between periods of dramatic weather changes. It happens, people are just making too much a big deal of it.
So basically each year is going to get hotter and hotter?
[QUOTE=Miskav;27454348]Started recording accurately in 1971?[/QUOTE] I thought they had records going back to 1890 [editline]16th January 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Crhem van der B;27454395]Yeah, too bad it only shows temperatures in the last 120 years. That's like a microsecond in the worlds history. What about thousands of years ago? Do we know if there were temperatures spikes before? Maybe it's just a repeating pattern?[/QUOTE] you have the medieval warm period, and if you roll back the clock 130,000 years, you'll find the earth was far warmer then it is now [editline]16th January 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=poopsicle;27454510]So basically each year is going to get hotter and hotter?[/QUOTE] No, it's just each year it seems like its getting hotter and hotter now because we didn't give enough of a shit about it 200 years ago to pay it any mind
Global warming is a hoax I can see snow outside my window man it's a cycle man
[QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;27454577]Global warming is a hoax I can see snow outside my window man it's a cycle man[/QUOTE] Global warming is a hoax, just like the Nukes in Iraq Instead we get climate change, while we get old chemical weapons from the 1980s buried in the desert in Iraq 2 completely different things then the proponents had us expecting just a couple of years before
So many idiots on Facepunch right now, it's astounding [editline]16th January 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Broseph_;27454248]That would be valid if the south pole wasn't getting colder [/QUOTE] Average GLOBAL temperatures Stop picking regions and saying "oh these specific locations are getting cooler it's a HOOOOAAAAAXXXXX lol" [editline]16th January 2011[/editline] You're all the same as the people who deny evolution you know that right [editline]16th January 2011[/editline] Or young earth creationists you're like young earth creationists, good job
Yeah but zeke that is why they use the term climate change, so people like broseph don't get confused.
[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;27455320]Yeah but zeke that is why they use the term climate change, so people like broseph don't get confused.[/QUOTE] But they'd still get confused "Hurr durr the climate isn't changing to tropical or anything hurr hoax".
[QUOTE=Broseph_;27454652]Global warming is a hoax, just like the Nukes in Iraq Instead we get climate change, while we get old chemical weapons from the 1980s buried in the desert in Iraq 2 completely different things then the proponents had us expecting just a couple of years before[/QUOTE]I know brahseph thats why I said it was a hoax!
[QUOTE=Zeke129;27455254]So many idiots on Facepunch right now, it's astounding [editline]16th January 2011[/editline] Average GLOBAL temperatures Stop picking regions and saying "oh these specific locations are getting cooler it's a HOOOOAAAAAXXXXX lol" [editline]16th January 2011[/editline] You're all the same as the people who deny evolution you know that right [editline]16th January 2011[/editline] Or young earth creationists you're like young earth creationists, good job[/QUOTE] Shut the fuck up Zeke with your idiocy by trying to put words in my mouth and lump me in with the christfags and claim I don't believe in climate change, simply because I stated the terminology, "Global Warming" is inaccurate since nearly every continent apart from the Americas having a large section of which below or at average with the 1970-2000 date period, with the entire continent of Antarctica being below average, along with the fact we have had some of the coldest years on record this last decade, which clearly is paradoxal if their is a global "warming" despite the higher heat average indeed out weighing the higher cold average, along with all the baseless scare mongering that never came true that was shouted under the banner of "Global Warming" [editline]16th January 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Miskav;27455592]But they'd still get confused "Hurr durr the climate isn't changing to tropical or anything hurr hoax".[/QUOTE] I thought the climate change they are thinking of was Semi-arid
[QUOTE=Broseph_;27455799]Shut the fuck up Zeke with your idiocy by trying to put words in my mouth and lump me in with the christfags and claim I don't believe in climate change, simply because I stated the terminology, "Global Warming" is inaccurate since nearly every continent apart from the Americas having a large section of which below or at average with the 1970-2000 date period, with the entire continent of Antarctica being below average, along with the fact we have had some of the coldest years on record this last decade, which clearly is paradoxal if their is a global "warming" despite the higher heat average indeed out weighing the higher cold average, along with all the baseless scare mongering that never came true that was shouted under the banner of "Global Warming" [editline]16th January 2011[/editline] I thought the climate change they are thinking of was Semi-arid[/QUOTE] You do realize that if the average global temperature goes up, certain areas experience harsher winters due to the way our environment works, right? I mean, sure you may not see it getting warmer, but if the global average is getting higher, it's safe to call it Global (<- see, global average) Warming (<- Average going up)
[QUOTE=Broseph_;27455799]Shut the fuck up Zeke with your idiocy by trying to put words in my mouth and lump me in with the christfags and claim I don't believe in climate change, simply because I stated the terminology, "Global Warming" is inaccurate since nearly every continent apart from the Americas having a large section of which below or at average with the 1970-2000 date period, with the entire continent of Antarctica being below average, along with the fact we have had some of the coldest years on record this last decade, which clearly is paradoxal if their is a global "warming" despite the higher heat average indeed out weighing the higher cold average, along with all the baseless scare mongering that never came true that was shouted under the banner of "Global Warming"[/QUOTE] You seem to be running a little warmer than average. [editline]16th January 2011[/editline] Scientific consensus says you're wrong
[QUOTE=Broseph_;27455799]Shut the fuck up Zeke with your idiocy by trying to put words in my mouth and lump me in with the christfags and claim I don't believe in climate change, simply because I stated the terminology, "Global Warming" is inaccurate since nearly every continent apart from the Americas having a large section of which below or at average with the 1970-2000 date period, with the entire continent of Antarctica being below average, along with the fact we have had some of the coldest years on record this last decade, which clearly is paradoxal if their is a global "warming" despite the higher heat average indeed out weighing the higher cold average, along with all the baseless scare mongering that never came true that was shouted under the banner of "Global Warming" [editline]16th January 2011[/editline] I thought the climate change they are thinking of was Semi-arid[/QUOTE] Warmer summers = colder winters brah
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Bullshit, it's cold as tits in minnesota.
[QUOTE=Miskav;27456233]You do realize that if the average global temperature goes up, certain areas experience harsher winters due to the way our environment works, right? I mean, sure you may not see it getting warmer, but if the global average is getting higher, it's safe to call it Global (<- see, global average) Warming (<- Average going up)[/QUOTE] Still difficult to teach about it when for the last decade North America has been below average, then call the locals stupid for being skeptical [editline]16th January 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Habsburg;27457169]Warmer summers = colder winters brah[/QUOTE] When I hear "global warming" I expect milder winters and hotter summers, "climate change" better encompasses this [editline]16th January 2011[/editline] [quote=augustburnsred;27457416]bullshit, it's cold as tits in minnesota.[/quote] hurr
[QUOTE=Broseph_;27457466]Still difficult to teach about it when for the last decade North America has been below average, then call the locals stupid for being skeptical [editline]16th January 2011[/editline] When I hear "global warming" I expect milder winters and hotter summers, "climate change" better encompasses this [editline]16th January 2011[/editline] hurr[/QUOTE] The average temperature of the planet is warming; not locally. Hence 'global'. Global warming is a completely fine term. This silly argument over semantics doesn't change the fact that it's happening and that it will be a severe problem.
I don't think this will be a problem. On one side of the argument, if the climate keeps going up, human technology can somehow counteract it in the future. On the other side, we are safe.
[QUOTE=Kagrenak;27457638]The average temperature of the planet is warming; not locally. Hence 'global'. Global warming is a completely fine term. This silly argument over semantics doesn't change the fact that it's happening and that it will be a severe problem.[/QUOTE] How will it be a severe problem? I live in Texas, I for one will welcome the snow in the winter, and it isn't like I'll notice it getting hotter in the summer since it's already hot as hell I mean for fuck sakes, how hard will it be for those in the South United States and Central Europe to learn how to handle the colder winters from the Scandinavians and New Englanders, and them vice versa with how to deal with the heat? It seems rather pointless wasting trillions of dollars on some bullshit that even in the best projections will only lead to our children having temperatures that are 1 Celsius less than if we did nothing, then actually spend it on something that has effect now, like spending it to end malaria and world hunger
[QUOTE=Broseph_;27457833]How will it be a severe problem? I live in Texas, I for one will welcome the snow in the winter, and it isn't like I'll notice it getting hotter in the summer since it's already hot as hell I mean for fuck sakes, how hard will it be for those in the South United States and Central Europe to learn how to handle the colder winters from the Scandinavians and New Englanders, and them vice versa with how to deal with the heat? It seems rather pointless wasting trillions of dollars on some bullshit that even in the best projections will only lead to our children having temperatures that are 1 Celsius less than if we did nothing, then actually spend it on something that has effect now, like spending it to end malaria and world hunger[/QUOTE] The range of malaria will be increased. The monsoon season will be neigh unpredictable. Bangladesh and the Ganjes delta will flood, killing or standing millions. Developing countries will be hit by massive famines on a huge scale. 35% of species in Australia and Amazonia will go extinct. Rainfall and weather patterns the world over will change. It won't be too bad for us lucky ones in the Industrialized world, but the people within the developing world will be the ones to bear the price. As it always is with this type of thing.
[QUOTE=Broseph_;27457833]How will it be a severe problem? I live in Texas, I for one will welcome the snow in the winter, and it isn't like I'll notice it getting hotter in the summer since it's already hot as hell I mean for fuck sakes, how hard will it be for those in the South United States and Central Europe to learn how to handle the colder winters from the Scandinavians and New Englanders, and them vice versa with how to deal with the heat? It seems rather pointless wasting trillions of dollars on some bullshit that even in the best projections will only lead to our children having temperatures that are 1 Celsius less than if we did nothing, then actually spend it on something that has effect now, like spending it to end malaria and world hunger[/QUOTE] You don't seem to realize where your food comes from. Those regions that NEED the climate they have now to produce the food will be screwed over by climate change, and that will directly impact your life.
Huh, I guess when all those girls said "You look hot", they meant it literally. :sigh: :crying:
I blame volcanoes.
[QUOTE=Kagrenak;27458000]The range of malaria will be increased. The monsoon season will be neigh unpredictable. Bangladesh and the Ganjes delta will flood, killing or standing millions. Developing countries will be hit by massive famines on a huge scale. 35% of species in Australia and Amazonia will go extinct. Rainfall and weather patterns the world over will change. It won't be too bad for us lucky ones in the Industrialized world, but the people within the developing world will be the ones to bear the price. As it always is with this type of thing.[/QUOTE] Okay, so what exactly spending trillions to reduce the heat abnormally at the end of this century by [B]ONE DEGREE CELSIUS[/B] if we did everything, that will do fuck all to prevent that? Malaria is easily treatable, monsoons are unstoppable, we can build dikes on the Ganjes delta, famines can be prevented, and extinction is just evolution at work So explain to me how diverting trillions that can be used to eradicate malaria like polio and building dikes on the Ganjes delta like the Netherlands, to be spend on technology with negligible impact on climate change, doing anyone any good? Remember, [B]One Degree Celsius[/B], if we did everything we could overnight and have it set up and going tomorrow
2010-2011's winter seems to be the coldest on record. Hawaii got snowfall even, for example. Climate change probably is happening, but if it is, it's a cycle, not because of us. This stuff happens all the time throughout history. In the Creataceous era, it was much, much hotter than today, and that was without any human actions at all. In the 1970s in the winter, some areas in the US experienced a massive heatwave: one city near where I lived had about 90 degree temperatures, DURING JANUARY. It's a cycle, if it is happening. Or, possibly, since many scientists suggest that our sun is growing larger, it could be that (screenshots of Mars have shown their ice caps are rapidly melting as well, faster than ours). There's a million more things it could be besides human emissions. [editline]16th January 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=blubafoon;27458216]I blame volcanoes.[/QUOTE] Scientists have actually measured the CO2 emissions, on average, of a volcano eruption. It's about 2x what all of humanity produces in a year.
[QUOTE=Miskav;27458074]You don't seem to realize where your food comes from. Those regions that NEED the climate they have now to produce the food will be screwed over by climate change, and that will directly impact your life.[/QUOTE] Are you implying we can't modify those corps to be better adapted to these projected climate changes, ether by natural breeding or by genetic modification
[QUOTE=Broseph_;27458313]Okay, so what exactly spending trillions to reduce the heat abnormally at the end of this century by [B]ONE DEGREE CELSIUS[/B] if we did everything, that will do fuck all to prevent that? Malaria is easily treatable, monsoons are unstoppable, we can build dikes on the Ganjes delta, famines can be prevented, and extinction is just evolution at work So explain to me how diverting trillions that can be used to eradicate malaria like polio and building dikes on the Ganjes delta like the Netherlands, to be spend on technology with negligible impact on climate change, doing anyone any good? Remember, [B]One Degree Celsius[/B], if we did everything we could overnight and have it set up and going tomorrow[/QUOTE] Not one degree >3 degrees if it's 'business as usual'. One degree is the least we can get it to, realistically. Malaria is hard to treat in the developing world, who will suffer. Monsoons are currently very predictable, this a farmer in southeast Asia knows when to plant his crops. With the changes in deepwater circulation and the monsoons that would occur, they would become unpredictable and vastly decrease crop yields do an unacceptable degree. We can't just build dikes on the Ganges because it's fucking massive and is already at 3 metres above sea level, there's no way to just "deal with it". [editline]16th January 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Broseph_;27458361]Are you implying we can't modify those corps to be better adapted to these projected climate changes, ether by natural breeding or by genetic modification[/QUOTE] We can, maybe. But the developing world can't handle these changes.
[QUOTE=AugustBurnsRed;27457416]Bullshit, it's cold as tits in minnesota.[/QUOTE] Not really. I've been living in Minnesota since 2004 or so, and I've faced much more colder years. This year was one of the warmest here IMO; it didn't get super cold until late Fall, where as the year before that got cold around the end of summer. Plus I call bullshit. When you live in Minnesota EVERY year will be cold as tits.
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