"Hatred" is a genocide simulator developed by Neo-Nazis
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Just looking at the picture of their CEO on the website it's pretty clear he's not the sharpest tool in the shed. Completely unsurprising.
Postal 1s premise was nigh identical and no one gives a shit about that lol
[QUOTE=proch;46259810]hahahaha[/QUOTE]
Who are they exactly?
I really hope this game isn't just mindless genocide
imagine the narrative possibilities
People need to understand one thing, games are a medium the same way movies and music are. All of this has genres and niches and this game is looking to appeal to someone, you may know it or not but people don't seem to feel weirded out by the fact how there are gore websites and people being fascinated by mutilation and other scary subjects but hey it's fine nobody cares about it or cares to admit that it exists, but it's so suddenly brutal and unfair when a bunch of people try to make a game out of it and it's plastered all over the net as something so absurd, while people call developers dumb, it's not like there are tons of people who favour zombie games with huge amounts of gore, and before that there are people who play twitch shooters like Quake or UT, but hey if you play anything that does not involve murdering each other like most games then you are a filthy casual peasant, because practically all casual games are made with sensible people in mind.
[QUOTE=uzikus;46259510]It's a fucking video game, they can create whatever they want and they can have their own opinions and your rants and insults won't change a thing. Game's gonna get finished and people will buy it.
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And on the other hand, we demand videogames as a media to be taken more seriously with games like
"Spec Ops the Line", "Gone Home" or "Last of us", yet everytimes there is a controversy we pull the "It's just a game" card.
I think the problem that people have with this game is not that it's a game about shooting random people,
it's the way it is presented with the tryhard "Edgy the Hedgehog hates everyone, especially Kevin" altitude.
This is just not a good basis for any media... not books, videogames or movies and it will always create bad PR.
Hey guys, this game isn't serious. The whole cheesy edgy edge dude is satire and mockery in on itself. The trailer is so cheesy and "look ma I'm hardcore" I can't see how so many people seem to think this game is serious. It is a tasteless parody but in no way actually serious. Not to mention this is a minute trailer, how can all of you gauge the seriousness so much?
My bet is it's cringy edgy on purpose to satirize generic edgy person. To be fair the fact that so many people defend postal and gta murder sprees and bash this game only makes it funnier. You do exactly the same thing in both postal and gta. You have a choice not to in them? Sure. But you also have a choice not to here by not playing.
Murder sprees in postal and gta are funny and over the top? If you watched trailer for hatred, the shit is over the top there too. Especially if you can withstand against cops, which isn't actually shown so we don't know.
Overall I think it's tasteless but I can in no way gauge the actual humor of it or if it has any from this short trailer. Gameplay looks interesting so far though. If it's more than just horde mode with civilian warmup, it could be good like postal.
The way I see it things go just as the dev planned. They want to sell their product on controversy.
They'll probably make a buck, and then who knows, maybe they'll run off or mayve they'll use their infamy, make a "redeeming" game that will sell because of its contrast to their previous title.
It's just grimdark Postal. The first Postal was an isometric shooter too. The funniest thing is that he kills people [b]indiscriminately[/b]. There's no real reason to complain about this. Liking it or not is purely subjective, and looks out to be like a love-it-or-hate-it matter.
tl;dr: the game will be made and people will play it
[editline]17th October 2014[/editline]
I feel like the game's general "acceptance" will only skyrocket if they make it have exceptional gameplay mechanics and actually be fun. If not it'll just be a mediocre timekiller.
Didn't this exact same thing happen with postal and it only boosted the sales?
[QUOTE=DMGaina;46259902]And on the other hand, we demand videogames as a media to be taken more seriously with games like
"Spec Ops the Line", "Gone Home" or "Last of us", yet everytimes there is a controversy we pull the "It's just a game" card.[/QUOTE]
If we want video games to be taken seriously, all we need to do is make GOOD video games. Doesn't matter if it's about burning churches or feeding homeless as long as it is good, it's credit to the medium.
[QUOTE=Grindigo;46259480]I like how people try to justify Postal games yet they have been accused of the same things as this game just in the last decade or so.[/QUOTE]
IIRC, Postal 1 was basically an edgy murder simulator like this, but Postal 2 was a very unique game that didn't require you to murderize everything in sight.
Sure, Postal 2 [I]encouraged[/I] you to hate everyone's guts and blast them to bits with a shotgun silenced by a cat shoved onto the end, but it didn't require you to. You could play the entire game (besides the expansion pack) without killing anyone.
Postal 2 was also a hilarious game.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AeAeyu9mqwY[/media]
To be fair, Postal 2 is more humor oriented
Here it's just plain murder for the sake of murder.
But yeah Postal 1 is pretty much the same thing
so much of facepunch would never buy a phil fish game even if it was the best game in the world just because it's phil fish, but they will defend the rights of a game about murdering people made by literal nazis
#facepunchproblems
[QUOTE=ChestyMcGee;46259989]so much of facepunch would never buy a phil fish game even if it was the best game in the world just because it's phil fish, but they will defend the rights of a game about murdering people made by literal nazis
#facepunchproblems[/QUOTE]
I see more people being against this game. It's almost as if you pick a group purely to fuel your argument instead of actually stating anything sensible.
#facepunchisnothivemind
[QUOTE=ChestyMcGee;46259989]so much of facepunch would never buy a phil fish game even if it was the best game in the world just because it's phil fish, but they will defend the rights of a game about murdering people made by literal nazis
#facepunchproblems #tryingtoberelevanttodiscussion[/QUOTE]
Just because there are two dudes in the development team who like group on facebook that represents far right wing views doesn't make the entire team neonazis.
[QUOTE=itisjuly;46260010]I see more people being against this game. It's almost as if you pick a group purely to fuel your argument instead of actually stating anything sensible.
#facepunchisnothivemind[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ChestyMcGee;46259989]so much of facepunch[/QUOTE]
learn reading comprehension idiot
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[QUOTE=Laserbeams;46259849]Who are they exactly?[/QUOTE]
I just checked their website, and apparently they are more-or-less just that
plus they also have no respect for spelling and proper grammar, apparently
Reminds me of people who think Fallout 3 is the first game of the Fallout series.
[QUOTE=Grindigo;46260014]Just because there are two dudes in the development team who like group on facebook that represents far right wing views doesn't make the entire team neonazis.[/QUOTE]
it's a small close-knit team where two of the devs are nazis and they're making a game about murdering random people because you're fed up with the world but yeh i'm sure the other guys in the team are definitely very left-leaning liberals
[QUOTE=ChestyMcGee;46260021]it's a small close-knit team where two of the devs are nazis and they're making a game about murdering random people because you're fed up with the world but yeh i'm sure the other guys in the team are definitely very left-leaning liberals[/QUOTE]
Sure how is making a game about murdering civilians worse than people who do far worse things in real life, I find it more fucked up how there was an artist who chained up a dog in room, starved him until he died while getting dosh from people wanting to see it, this is what truly fucked up means.
And now they're in the news and have received free publicity, hooray?
Yeah smart move by them, their going to be rich off all this publicity.
[QUOTE=Ragekipz;46259970]If we want video games to be taken seriously, all we need to do is make GOOD video games. Doesn't matter if it's about burning churches or feeding homeless as long as it is good, it's credit to the medium.[/QUOTE]
We have enough good games that raise the medium on an acceptable level and we as consumers, devs and community are very proud of that.
However, pulling back everytimes shit hits the fan with "It's just a game" or "just fictional characters" is irresponsible and hypocritical.
By the way, this has nothing to do with "Hatred" I just don't like if anyone pulls that card in a discussion a game creates.
It's like going into a discussion with a hard core feminist and suddenly she says "Just because I'm a girl"
I still find it funny how some people justified Postal 2 on last page because the game gave you choice not to kill or it was humorous, then what's the point of playing this game, walking around? Listening to boring cheap humour? The entire point of the game is doing silly violent shit, pissing on corpses, burning stuff, making people around puke, chopping their limbs off, sticking guns into cat anuses there is a ton of obscene stuff, but yet people justify it because it's in the name of humour, a really poor one it's a matter fact.
I also find it funny how everyone sucked on Hotline's miami dick yet somehow this game takes it too far.
You could kill innocents in Hitman games too, it got quite a bit of heat too especially when big crowds have been introduced in Blood Money and you could take a machine gun and plow through the crowds if you wanted.
[QUOTE=AlexDeviant;46260117]I also find it funny how everyone sucked on Hotline's miami dick yet somehow this game takes it too far.[/QUOTE]
Except Hotline Miami actually doesn't glorify murder in the same way as this
it shows killing innocents as horrible (You kill a man in an alleyway, and the main character pukes in horror) and you kill armed thugs, not innocent people.
missing the point really.
[QUOTE=AlexDeviant;46260117]I also find it funny how everyone sucked on Hotline's miami dick yet somehow this game takes it too far.[/QUOTE]
The context is completely different, comparing this crap to Hotline Miami because they are both top down shooters is dumb.
The entire problem is context.
[QUOTE=J!NX;46260144][B]Except Hotline Miami actually doesn't glorify murder in the same way[/B] as this
it shows killing innocents as horrible (You kill a man in an alleyway, and the main character pukes in horror) and you kill armed thugs, not innocent people.
missing the point really.[/QUOTE]
You mean the game doesn't give you fucking points for killing everyone on the level flawlessly, doesn't it reward you with storyline progression?
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