Gun retailers stop selling guns and ammo to police - Polidicks

All gun threads should just get auto merged into the gun masturbation thread.

[QUOTE=Pepsi-cola;39696071]All gun threads should just get auto merged into the gun masturbation thread.[/QUOTE] Don't you have to spew pointless bullshit somewhere else?

[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;39696061]It's not like there's a government that can give it to them or anything, being that we have the most put into defense spending twice over that of Russia and China (combined).[/QUOTE] ok this doesnt have anything to do with what he said really but i appreciate the effort

[QUOTE=Snapster;39695881]"We do not halt sales to individual officers even in problematic states. I am a former Police Officer myself, and the staffer who stimulated the recent anger is a currently serving one. We are well familiar with the fact that most rifles serving Police Officers are purchased by the officers themselves, and that they shouldn’t be punished for the actions of their political elite. We consider sales to those sate subdivisions which are not engaged or potentially engaged with disarming its citizens. DNR and Forestry Departments, for instance, sometimes serve in remote areas that conceal drug farms and their officers deserve good hardware." emphasis added by Armalite[/QUOTE] So basically "We won't sell to The Police(tm) but we will sell to Police Officers."

[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;39696075]Don't you have to spew pointless bullshit somewhere else?[/QUOTE] What? please make some sense.

[QUOTE=Rusty100;39695967]Oh, yeah, good idea, stop selling them to the only people who actually need them.[/QUOTE] Humor me, what exactly do the police critically need them for that simultaneously doesn't in any way, shape, or form apply to ordinary civilians?

[QUOTE=Kopimi;39696084]ok this doesnt have anything to do with what he said really but i appreciate the effort[/QUOTE] Nice attempt in trying to rile me up. The point I was making across was that it's not the companies' jobs to sell to police and law enforcement, and that if they suddenly need ammo, they can just get the federal government to supply them.

[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;39696106]Nice attempt in trying to rile me up. The point I was making across was that it's not the companies' jobs to sell to police and law enforcement, and that if they suddenly need ammo, they can just get the federal government to supply them.[/QUOTE] i wasn't trying to rile u up and my point was that nobody said the police have nowhere else to get their weapons

[QUOTE=ButtsexV3;39696012]hi rusty I'll just take that wonderful opinion of yours and put it in the garbage where it belongs [editline]23rd February 2013[/editline] I don't think the people are going to like themselves being defenseless[/QUOTE] This is exactly the reason I love living in Australia

[QUOTE=Kopimi;39696029]so the police should go out unarmed and probably get shot to death so that the firearms industry can pretend its forming a coherent protest? i mean granted the police will just buy from another seller the entire concept behind the protest is kneejerk and stupid as hell [/QUOTE] Looking at your previous posts in this subforum's gun threads, I'm assuming you're an extremist (for the lack of a better word) on the anti-gun side. If I'm right, do you not believe that all these gun control laws lessen crime rates? If so, then your post would contradict your previous statements because there would be nothing to "shoot these police officers" with.

[QUOTE=catbarf;39696105]Humor me, what exactly do the police critically need them for that simultaneously doesn't in any way, shape, or form apply to ordinary civilians?[/QUOTE] police are properly trained and their guns are registered lol [QUOTE=HighdefGE;39696123]Looking at your previous posts in this subforum's gun threads, I'm assuming you're an extremist (for the lack of a better word) on the anti-gun side. If I'm right, do you not believe that all these gun control laws lessen crime rates? If so, then your post would contradict your previous statements because the source of "police getting shot to death" would not exist.[/QUOTE] im an anti gun extremist im gonna blow up ur house if you dont gimme ur guns grr

[QUOTE=Iago;39695961]Nobody is above the law.[/QUOTE] But it is we who make the law.... Although, this is one good reason I think the government should have had its own weapon manufactures.

i dont believe all gun control laws magically lower crime rates but i believe some do and those that do are only effective when there is a police force in place to counterbalance those that will inevitably have access to illegal weapons. what most of you seem to be unaware of is that the existence of a black market doesnt make up for the massive decrease in gun ownership (legal or not) caused by anti gun legislation and im not extremely anti gun i own guns and enjoy shooting them i just have this whacky theory where my hobby is less important than human life wow crazy !!

[QUOTE=Kopimi;39696143]i dont believe all gun control laws magically lower crime rates but i believe some do and those that do are only effective when there is a police force in place to counterbalance those that will inevitably have access to illegal weapons. what most of you seem to be unaware of is that the existence of a black market doesnt make up for the massive decrease in gun ownership (legal or not) caused by anti gun legislation[/QUOTE] Simply beautiful, I shed a tear.

[QUOTE=Kopimi;39696029]hey wow at first i agreed with rusty but after reading this really well thought out retort i think i'm on your side now![/QUOTE] I don't know, Rusty's masterful and well-grounded realistic reasoning sure has made me rethink my positions. It's clear that he has a real concise idea of the issues at hand and knows the true solutions that we were all blind to see in the first place. Only now do I realize i'm a "backwards" "gun zealot" who's hobby is the source of all evils in the world. There's nothing more to it, guns are the one and only true source of all crime, there are no underlying issues that breed criminal tendencies at all.

[QUOTE=mastermaul;39696174]I don't know, Rusty's masterful and well-grounded realistic reasoning sure has made me rethink my positions. It's clear that he has a real concise idea of the issues at hand and knows the true solutions that we were all blind to see in the first place. Only now do I realize i'm a "backwards" "gun zealot" who's hobby is the source of all evils in the world. There's nothing more to it, guns are the one and only true source of all crime, there are no underlying issues that breed criminal tendencies at all.[/QUOTE] Good job completely ignoring the issue that guns make it exponentially easier to murder people, en masse, as they were explicitly designed for. Yes we should also fix society or whatever, but a very large step in that is removing as many guns as we can.

[QUOTE=mastermaul;39696174]I don't know, Rusty's masterful and well-grounded realistic reasoning sure has made me rethink my positions. It's clear that he has a real concise idea of the issues at hand and knows the true solutions that we were all blind to see in the first place. Only now do I realize i'm a "backwards" "gun zealot" who's hobby is the source of all evils in the world. There's nothing more to it, guns are the one and only true source of all crime, there are no underlying issues that breed criminal tendencies at all.[/QUOTE] rusty literally never said any of that in this thread lol by the way i love how recently the facepunch gun club has taken to crying about "underlying social issues that cause crime", psychological health and alternative sources of violent crime even though 90% of you guys are also the facepunch young republicans club who are obsessed with free markets and asking poor people in social climates that breed violent crime to pick themselves up by their bootstraps. you aren't fooling anybody when you cry about psychological health and poverty in one thread then turn around and talk about how welfare and socialized healthcare are the root of all evil

[QUOTE=Rusty100;39696206] but a very large step in that is removing as many guns as we can.[/QUOTE] Haha, that's hilarious. Nice try doing that here.

Hobby or not, too many people are getting shot, so fuck the guys that are at least trying to do something, right?

[QUOTE=Kopimi;39696212] by the way i love how recently the facepunch gun club has taken to crying about "underlying social issues that cause crime", psychological health and alternative sources of violent crime even though 90% of you guys are also the facepunch young republicans club who are obsessed with free markets and asking poor people in social climates that breed violent crime to pick themselves up by their bootstraps. you aren't fooling anybody when you cry about psychological health and poverty in one thread then turn around and talk about how welfare and socialized healthcare are the root of all evil[/QUOTE] Generalization 101, right here folks.

[QUOTE=Rusty100;39696028]alrighty have fun living in a backwards gun zealot country while the rest of the world just laughs at you i guess?[/QUOTE] Speak for yourself as a European I fully defend this movement

Kokimi you're looking at this wrong. The restrictions were made by the logic that civilians don't need 30 round ammos or assult rifles unless they're gonna shoot up a place or some crimminal activity. So now that the restrictions are placed why would the police need those guns if all the crimminals only got handguns now(false)? This protest shows the broken logic in strict gun control laws and when the police complain the politicens will listen.

fp conservatives in a gun thread: instead of registering my arsenal that could arm a small militia, we should just make poverty go away and help treat mentally ill people! fp conservatives in any other thread: fucking poor motherfuckers my dad lived in a house that was only two stories with NO POOL and he worked hard and grew up to be the CEO of Tide Washing Machines international so if my white male dad from Seattles suburbs could make it why can't an inner city kid in the middle of chicago who works 3 jobs to support his oversized family while trying to get a basic high school education from a school that is lacking funding while his friends get killed in gang wars?? [editline]24th February 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Zillamaster55;39696229]Generalization 101, right here folks.[/QUOTE] hi hello this isn't generalization this is literally what you guys have been saying and if you haven't then i'm not talking about you thanks

[QUOTE=Kopimi;39696212]rusty literally never said any of that in this thread lol by the way i love how recently the facepunch gun club has taken to crying about "underlying social issues that cause crime", psychological health and alternative sources of violent crime even though 90% of you guys are also the facepunch young republicans club who are obsessed with free markets and asking poor people in social climates that breed violent crime to pick themselves up by their bootstraps. you aren't fooling anybody when you cry about psychological health and poverty in one thread then turn around and talk about how welfare and socialized healthcare are the root of all evil[/QUOTE] It's because they grew up with 4 years of Obama and of course because they like something, they get real defensive about it take the internet for example.

i seriously dont understand how you guys fall back on "lets just treat the underlying social issues that cause crime" as if eradicating the very fucking concept of poverty in the united states is somehow more reasonable than you writing your name and address on a piece of paper before you buy your gun

i don't trust cops with guns anymore than i'd trust average people with guns so yeah if average people can't have them i don't think cops should either

I'm not a conservative you have no idea what my political views are, that is generalization.

Oh god, CTD is on that list :v: No one will have it from them, civilian or police alike, without having to sell all of their belongings.

[QUOTE=Kopimi;39696125]police are properly trained and their guns are registered lol[/QUOTE] So? I thought the only purpose of high-capacity magazines and assault weapons is to kill large numbers of people. Police don't need to kill large numbers of people, so what do they need assault weapons and high-capacity magazines for?

[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;39696061]It's not like there's a government that can give it to them or anything, being that we have the most put into defense spending twice over that of Russia and China (combined).[/QUOTE] [url=http://cnsnews.com/blog/gregory-gwyn-williams-jr/nationwide-ammo-shortages-police]You think the government actually does that?[/url] You think our "defense" budget goes towards troops or cops? it goes to multi-billion dollar projects that private companies like Lockheed martin and Oshkosh benefit from